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Phatscotty wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
40kguy wrote:
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Phatscotty wrote: Was this a US school I assume?

No, it was in Mexico, in Guadalajara.
wow there are allowed guns there.
No, its against the law unless you have a permit, which is much more difficult to get that in the US. I guess you say that because of my comment that students brought guns to school: that was in another city, when I was in public school. I was surrounded by little delinquents lol. No, in the University I was back in private school, I shouldn't have left private schools. It was one of my sisters suggestion that I made 6 years of public schools, so I could learn to relate to everybody, not only "rich kids".

You don't learn anything in public schools in Mexico, and you meet mostly uninteresting, stupid, dangerous people. In private schools in Mexico there aren't only "rich kids", there are a lot of sons of people making an effort to give good education to their children. Anyway, those 6 years are years lost to me, I learned only to fear other people, and bad habits. If I ever have a son or daughter, they will never go to a public school in Mexico, I rather have em playing videogames all day long.
replace "schools" with "hospitals" and you are looking at the future of US health care
You think that in the future public US hospitals, no one will learn anything? And that in the future private US hospitals, there are a lot of people making an effort to give a good education to their children?
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nagerous wrote:
mpjh wrote:OH, I forgot exercising -- exercise every day

masturbating doesn't count as exercising
It builds arm muscles.

Masturbating in the morning however might make you concentrate better. After a good wank you are not as sexually charged during the day and therefore can concentrate on the work rather than 'impure thoughts.'
I don't know...sex makes me sleepy. If he's already having trouble staying awake...
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nietzsche wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
nietzsche wrote:This is how I payed attention:

From 1st grade to 6th grade: I would pay attention to everything the teacher said, I liked school, besides in those grades paying attention didn't make you a nerd, I could still be friends with anyone and play soccer every recess.

7th grade: I joined a public school, big change. Guys would bring knifes and guns to school, I still payed attention and got straight As but started to adapt in order to not to be taught as a nerd, managed to be friends with one of the little delinquents because we ride on the same bus to get to school.

8th to 12th grade: Public system changed me and I started to pay enough attention to pass without having to study at home (it was still pretty easy so I kept getting 9s) and care more about having fun at school.

University: I moved to a different city, living alone. I would pay attention and participate whenever I was in the classroom, I attended like to 60% of my classes tho, (I'm a stupid because I payed for the 100% of them) because they have a 51% assistance policy.
Just a question. Was it really your money? or did it come from somewhere else (could be anywhere). I understand 51% of it came from "assistance". was that the school, the gov't, grant or shcolarship? and, not to get to personal, but I'm curious cuz I went through the exact same thing. Was this a US school I assume? how much of the 49% was "yours", and of that, how much came on loan from a bank or school? If you don't mind
No, by 51% assistance I mean attendance , sorry, in Spanish is "asistencia". I hat to attend to 85% percent of classes to get 2 chances to pass the final, or 51% to have 1 chance. To me 1 chance was enough so I would attend just enough of the classes. Back when I was 17 I thought my family didn't have enough to support me in an expensive university, so I promised a scholarship when I applied (I could get it) but it was my bad luck that ONLY that year, the university suspended it's scholarship program, and next year when they reopened it, I went to apply for one but they told me it was only for new students :evil: .

And I guess I was very stupid for missing classes but I thought I was paying for meeting people from all the country like me and for the final diploma.
Oh, ok. Not the same story, but what happened to me was I went to college right after high school, and I used money that my great grandfather left me when I was 3 years old. I was only 1000 dollars, but it was managed well and grow over the decades into more than that. I knew how much was there, so when I got he blank check "free education" what did I do? I went out and spent way too much on a top of the line, 200 MHZ desktop, cuz I needed that. I also bought all new books. What were the results? Missing classes, not studying for tests, sleeping through videos. I cared enough to show up about 80% of the time. My grades suffered. I never got an F, but I did drop a few classes that were not looking so good 5 weeks into them. huge waste of money.

Luckily, the individual who looked over the money so wisely, also demanded accountability. I soon as he saw my grades, he pulled the money. He said "I'm not letting this money go to waste, I would rather go on vacation or invest it or anything else. My dad left you 1000k, and you've already pissed away 5. That's it. If you want to stay in college, you pay for it yourself." Of course, as first, I was like "wtf, all C's aren't that bad!" However, after some thought, and looking at my finances, I pitched a deal to split the tuition, and to give it another shot. He agreed, and now I was writing checks out of my own pocket every semester. Used books, and pens from work even!

Guess what? I got my first A in college that year, and a lot of B's as well. You know why? Because I was paying for it. I learned something the person tried to teach me, personal accountability and the value of money. There was NO way in hell I was going to pay that much money for a class, and miss it! Not when I am paying for it. I had discovered a new drive to pay attention and actually try to do good work, and read the assignment, and do the notes, and retype the notes and print them out (highly effective), and do all of the optional skill tests at the end of each chapter, and retype those as well. I did not know I had it in me, and that is a huge reason why I am who I am today and why I talk about the things I talk about, as well as my reasoning against the bailouts and gov't takeovers in general, and made me a free-marketer. I know, from first hand experience, that we don't give a shit when it isn't our money. When our money is on the line, you are damn right we do everything possible to see that not a penny is wasted.

The more money that is "given", the less efficient the results become. I understand this is not true in all cases, but overall it is true. Look at Fannie and Freddie. People jumped in with both feet because they knew if it went belly up the gov't would bail them out in the end. There was no reason to do the homework, or look into the bigger picture. Naw mean?
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Woodruff wrote:
40kguy wrote:I'm curious how you guys payed attention in school or pay attention in school because I honestly can't I acctually fell asleep a couple of times in school.
Stop drinking soda/tea/alcohol/coffee. I'm not kidding. Back when I was in school, I had similar problems. Once I gave up on the soda, my school world literally changed.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Shitloads of caffiene every day. I was addicted. A Moutain Dew in the morning, a Frappacino (however you spell it) just before my first class, a bottle of tea for my next class, then lunch, then weight training (followed by either tea or iced coffee)/SSR (same, but during class) (depending on the day, it was either weight training or SSR), and then school got out. Repeat for the whole week.
No, precisely the opposite of this.

This will help short-term, but there's a reason he needed to keep hitting it. Give the shit up and you'll have a really rough two weeks, and then you will find yourself perky and happy all day (provided you're going to bed at a reasonable hour).

The problem with caffeine is that it literally stays with you long after you've finished feeling the physical affects of it...it's keeping your brain wired and you don't get the restful sleep that you need. It creates a never-ending cycle of needing to re-invigorate.
Actually, I laid off the pop quite a bit last year (still have one on occasion). Got mono, couldn't sleep worth anything, kicked pop to the curb, had a horrible headache for a awhile, and then I felt better from it. Could sleep slightly better.
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Got a different story here.

I went to seminary for high school. Very regimented. No time off except Wednesday afternoon and Saturday afternoon and the resto of the time was spent in class, studying, sports, or praying. Never had a problem with falling asleep though cause the brothers would rap my knuckles if I did. lol

Quit that game and went to college. No regimentation. I didn't go to chemistry class so I was failing. I joined the Navy.

In the Navy I got 3 years of Electronic Technician school and specialized in Satellite Communications. Never fell asleep because it was too damn interesting.

Got kicked out of the Navy with Honorable discharge for speaking out against the war in Viet Nam while in uniform.

Went to work for a big telecommunications company, joined the union (best job I ever had). I read tons of books for three years -- tons. The union had classes at a local college (Roosevelt University). I took the CLEP test there and was allowed to go directly into graduate school, so got my Master in Economics in 2 years with no undergraduate degree. Never fell asleep because it was too damn interesting.

Worked as an economist for the state government for a couple of years, then took a chance and applied to law school -- got admitted even without undergraduate degree. go figure. Never fell asleep in law school especially in the Constitutional/Federal law courses because they were just too damn interesting.

Now I am a retired technician/economist/lawyer.

My advice is drink lots of water, eat very little meat, and find something that is just too damn interesting to miss if you want to stay awake.

PS. the government paid for 90% of everything -- so paying for it was not the incentive
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mpjh wrote:Got a different story here.

I went to seminary for high school. Very regimented. No time off except Wednesday afternoon and Saturday afternoon and the resto of the time was spent in class, studying, sports, or praying. Never had a problem with falling asleep though cause the brothers would rap my knuckles if I did. lol

Quit that game and went to college. No regimentation. I didn't go to chemistry class so I was failing. I joined the Navy.

In the Navy I got 3 years of Electronic Technician school and specialized in Satellite Communications. Never fell asleep because it was too damn interesting.

Got kicked out of the Navy with Honorable discharge for speaking out against the war in Viet Nam while in uniform.

Went to work for a big telecommunications company, joined the union (best job I ever had). I read tons of books for three years -- tons. The union had classes at a local college (Roosevelt University). I took the CLEP test there and was allowed to go directly into graduate school, so got my Master in Economics in 2 years with no undergraduate degree. Never fell asleep because it was too damn interesting.

Worked as an economist for the state government for a couple of years, then took a chance and applied to law school -- got admitted even without undergraduate degree. go figure. Never fell asleep in law school especially in the Constitutional/Federal law courses because they were just too damn interesting.

Now I am a retired technician/economist/lawyer.

My advice is drink lots of water, eat very little meat, and find something that is just too damn interesting to miss if you want to stay awake.

PS. the government paid for 90% of everything -- so paying for it was not the incentive
90% of that post is bragging about everything that didn't happen in school. Gov't paid for 100% of my school 4-12. HA!
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You missed the point -- school isn't separate from life and you better pursue a life that is interesting.
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mpjh wrote:You missed the point -- school isn't separate from life and you better pursue a life that is interesting.
School happens when people are 4-18. and mostly 19-26 of 45% of those
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I worked hard to get into a prestigious program and I worked even harder once I began classes. My education was so wonderful and challenging that boredom was never a factor. Fatigue and tears, yes. Boredom, no.
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mpjh wrote:sexual tension is good for you -- try abstaining every other day.
What's abstaining? I also don't get half the stuff you are saying like my diet. Or how excersing. (I do exercise more then an average person) but what difference does it make?
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Good diet and modest exercise will make you feel better and have more energy to stay on cue in class.

A diet of sugar and fat (fast food and soda) will leave you with big dips of energy during the day. Caffeine and sugar (energy drinks) will boost you for about 10 minutes, then the big energy dip comes back. So diet is important because you the the right fuel to keep going all day.

Exercise actually raises you overall energy level for hours after you are done.
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mpjh wrote:Good diet and modest exercise will make you feel better and have more energy to stay on cue in class.

A diet of sugar and fat (fast food and soda) will leave you with big dips of energy during the day. Caffeine and sugar (energy drinks) will boost you for about 10 minutes, then the big energy dip comes back. So diet is important because you the the right fuel to keep going all day.

Exercise actually raises you overall energy level for hours after you are done.
Well what does sexual stuff have to do anything (besides you fanisizeing about them) also whats abasing
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just stick with the diet and you will do fine.
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mpjh wrote:just stick with the diet and you will do fine.
i have a horrible diet and i am fine

allthough i dont give more then 50% of my attention (at best) in any class
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lol, there it is
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I Proablly have the best diet in my school. Anything else?
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mpjh wrote:lol, there it is
but the lack of attention has to do with my lack of sleep and not having the need to pay attention (as i get A's without paying attention)
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well, la ti da
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mpjh wrote:lol, there it is
but the lack of attention has to do with my lack of sleep and not having the need to pay attention (as i get A's without paying attention)
well I could do that but I just don't feel like comprehending everything I zone out of my book look at the questions get them all right. Then I go take the test don't feel like being there say F it then rush through it.
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try using crack meth, it might help
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caymanmew wrote:
mpjh wrote:just stick with the diet and you will do fine.
i have a horrible diet and i am fine
allthough i dont give more then 50% of my attention (at best) in any class
The contradiction that you're unintentionally pointing out perfectly exemplifies what mpjh is saying. Well done.
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mpjh wrote:lol, there it is
but the lack of attention has to do with my lack of sleep and not having the need to pay attention (as i get A's without paying attention)
I am a teacher, and I will say this...if your primary goal in school is "to get As", then you are doing it wrong. Yes, I am serious. That absolutely should not be your primary goal.
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Woodruff wrote:
caymanmew wrote:
mpjh wrote:lol, there it is
but the lack of attention has to do with my lack of sleep and not having the need to pay attention (as i get A's without paying attention)
I am a teacher, and I will say this...if your primary goal in school is "to get As", then you are doing it wrong. Yes, I am serious. That absolutely should not be your primary goal.

ya ok what should i be doing them?
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caymanmew wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
caymanmew wrote:
mpjh wrote:lol, there it is
but the lack of attention has to do with my lack of sleep and not having the need to pay attention (as i get A's without paying attention)
I am a teacher, and I will say this...if your primary goal in school is "to get As", then you are doing it wrong. Yes, I am serious. That absolutely should not be your primary goal.

ya ok what should i be doing them?
Smoking pot, and sexually propositioing your teachers.

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Woodruff wrote: I am a teacher, and I will say this...if your primary goal in school is "to get As", then you are doing it wrong. Yes, I am serious. That absolutely should not be your primary goal.
I personally tried to have as much fun as possible, though I didn't need to try hard for good grades. The people who got straight A's were the people working far too hard and either:
1) Brown nosed their way into A's half the time or
2) Did not have as much fun or
3) Were basically exhausted the whole time
My goal was to have fun and appreciate the time I had left in High School during my junior and senior year. I worked as hard as I had to to still get a 3.85 (which really wasn't that hard) and had lots of fun. I'm not sure if this is what you meant, but this is how I took it.
Lots of people are confusing boredom with sleeping in class. For me anyways, they are not equal. I am rarely ever "bored" in class. Yes there are slow downs, but nothing horrendous. For me, sleeping just happens in class. There is nothing I can physically do to stop it once I feel it coming on. There may be something really interesting going on (and there usually is) and it frustrates me to no end how I will fall asleep in class. All I can hope for is that it passes without me missing too much info.
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Have you ever been tested for diabeties?
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