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Namor wrote:Yes, it did... thank you. I wasn't aware that there are so many reasons for cheaters opening a second account. Although Scapula's reason was one of a few genuine mistakes, I can see how difficult it would be for the hunters to determine the intent.
Since reading of the many other reasons for cheaters setting up a second account, I can fully understand the sites approach. Although, I think it's a shame that individual cases such as this, can't be resolved by quietly slapping the guys wrist and reimbursing his fee. That said, I can also understand how it could create more work for those volunteers that hunt the cheats down.
So Scapula, based on a number of factors from both sides, my vote is now NO. Although I believe your acount of things, I think you will have to accept that you broke an agreement you made, when signing up.
Evil Semp wrote:Scapula is NOT being completely upfront about everything. We have enough things available that I can not and will not disclose, but if I did I think 99% of his supporters would change their minds.
Scapula wrote:Woodruf: That's fine by me. I'll play as Jimi or Scapula. I don't care. All I want to do is play. What I'm really annoyed about is that an honest mistake has cost me fifteen quid which I handed over in the first place as a nice gesture of my appreciation.
Conquer Club can refund me my money and never hear from me again. They have that choice open to them.
As for you JelleR, there's really no need to be so condescending. So far, this has been a very reasonable discussion between a group of reasonable people. Please don't spoil it.
Commander62890 wrote:Woodruff wrote:Commander62890 wrote:But I am looking at it from an intent point of view - he made a small mistake; he didn't mean to break the rules.
I agree with your general point on this. However, not in this case...it seems Scapula did log into the other account after they were busted as multis.
Yes, that is unfortunate evidence against Jimi/Scapula.
But - and it seems like you'll probably agree with me on this - Despite the fact that Scapula should have known better and was clearly breaking a very good CC policy, he should still be awarded a second chance.
In this specific case, with the second account upgrading to premium and no recent games being played on the first account, a two-strike penalty system should be instituted.
He has not played any games on his first account (Jimi) for a long time.
Just tranfer the premium there, "guest" the second account (Scapula), and give him one more chance.
If it happens again, he loses his premium.
It may seem to some that I am asking for undue lenience, but I don't think I am.
Commander62890 wrote:Just because a rule has existed for a long time does not that mean it cannot be undone. CC should not feel a need to stand by a rule just to maintain the idea that it is always right. If a rule needs to be altered slightly, it should be done.
thebest712 wrote:Woodruff wrote:thebest712 wrote:well I just would do rule like this, if you play only on one account, the second account gets deleted/blocked/inactivated if they still can play on first, if they play on both= bust
The problem with this is someone can "fix their crappy score" right quick by creating a new account.
I think this is misunderstood again, this is not allowed, you stay on your first account, but when making a new account the new accounts becomes inactive and he can go back on first, and gets a warning.
Valykrie wrote:my keyboard is slippery.
sonicsteve wrote:Valykrie wrote:my keyboard is slippery.
You need to buy more tissues.
Evil Semp wrote:
This is all I can say about this. Scapula is NOT being completely upfront about everything. We have enough things available that I can not and will not disclose, but if I did I think 99% of his supporters would change their minds.
Scapula wrote:I'm now weary from the circular arguments, tired of all the pettiness and no longer want either form of membership.
Accordingly, I have changed my vote to "No".
I will complete my last four games only for the sake of my opponents and have now commenced action to receive a refund directly from Salamander Software. For those of you who have had a similar experience to me but paid the extortative additional fee, I suggest you try to do the same. You'll get nowhere with these poorly hung jobsworths and their subserviant cohort of cloying devotees.
To those of you with the reason and common sense to have supported me, I thank you. May the dice be with you.
To those who might feel like taking an uncomplimentary swipe at my expense, please accept this as a standard and suitably thoughtless retort. f*ck off.
Scapula wrote:I'm now weary from the circular arguments, tired of all the pettiness and no longer want either form of membership.
Accordingly, I have changed my vote to "No".
I will complete my last four games only for the sake of my opponents and have now commenced action to receive a refund directly from Salamander Software. For those of you who have had a similar experience to me but paid the extortative additional fee, I suggest you try to do the same. You'll get nowhere with these poorly hung jobsworths and their subserviant cohort of cloying devotees.
To those of you with the reason and common sense to have supported me, I thank you. May the dice be with you.
To those who might feel like taking an uncomplimentary swipe at my expense, please accept this as a standard and suitably thoughtless retort. f*ck off.
Scapula wrote:I'm now weary from the circular arguments, tired of all the pettiness and no longer want either form of membership.
Accordingly, I have changed my vote to "No".
I will complete my last four games only for the sake of my opponents and have now commenced action to receive a refund directly from Salamander Software. For those of you who have had a similar experience to me but paid the extortative additional fee, I suggest you try to do the same. You'll get nowhere with these poorly hung jobsworths and their subserviant cohort of cloying devotees.
To those of you with the reason and common sense to have supported me, I thank you. May the dice be with you.
To those who might feel like taking an uncomplimentary swipe at my expense, please accept this as a standard and suitably thoughtless retort. f*ck off.
Valykrie wrote:"I'm tired of pettiness. F**k off."
That's basically all he said.
macbone wrote:Scapula, I have to hand it to you. You're obviously a smart guy - the diciton in your last post alone is enough to bear that out - and you almost had me sympathizing with you, but your choice to take the low road and resort to name-calling and being personally offensive destroyed any goodwill you might have engendered with me.
If I break the rules in a bar and am forcibly ejected, I don't get my cover charge back. If I plagiarize a paper and am disenrolled, I don't get my tuition back. Next time, suck it up, accept the responsibility of your actions, and move on.
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