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Bats is easily the best cos he's just a human wit attitude.
I read one where superheroes were outlawed, except supes cos he was a pawn of the US gov. and years later a nigh-on geriatric Bruce Wayne tracks him down and beats f*ck out of him, explaining how he managed to obtain Kryptonite he says "It took years and cost a fortune, luckily I had both"

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Batman really takes home the badass award.

Q: Why was the Bat-Symbol on his chest bright Yellow?
A: It was a target for thugs armed with guns. Batman had bullet-proof padding hidden under the chest of his suit, but had none under his cowl. So he painted his chest in bright yellow to draw a villain's fire away from his face. But once the technology became available Batman donned a Kevlar cowl and made his entire costume jet-black with no reflective surfaces.

Q: Why does Robin dress like a homosexual carnival dancer?
A: His costume choice was influenced by three things. First, it's the color of his family costume when he was a hi-wire performer. Second, the colors are meant to be bright and optimistic. And third, his bright colors will attract the attention of the bad guys, and keep them from noticing the Batman. That's right, Batman purposefully allowed his side-kick to dress like a douche to draw fire away from himself.

Also, Robin is dead. The Joker beat him to death and then blew him up with a bomb.
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I guess nobody caught the reference a while ago, but Superman just gave up his American citizenship in front of the UN in the most recent comic. He didn't want to be an agent of US foreign policy. Controversial stuff.
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Juan_Bottom wrote:Batman really takes home the badass award.

Q: Why was the Bat-Symbol on his chest bright Yellow?
A: It was a target for thugs armed with guns. Batman had bullet-proof padding hidden under the chest of his suit, but had none under his cowl. So he painted his chest in bright yellow to draw a villain's fire away from his face. But once the technology became available Batman donned a Kevlar cowl and made his entire costume jet-black with no reflective surfaces.

Q: Why does Robin dress like a homosexual carnival dancer?
A: His costume choice was influenced by three things. First, it's the color of his family costume when he was a hi-wire performer. Second, the colors are meant to be bright and optimistic. And third, his bright colors will attract the attention of the bad guys, and keep them from noticing the Batman. That's right, Batman purposefully allowed his side-kick to dress like a douche to draw fire away from himself.

Also, Robin is dead. The Joker beat him to death and then blew him up with a bomb.
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That was a long long time ago. There have been several Robins since then, and Jason Todd(dead Robin) came back from the dead and died fighting the first Robin. Who is now Batman. And has a new Robin who is I think the son of the original Batman.
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Is that in the official story line? I read an interview with the writer in Wizard where they said Robin II was dead and he was going to stay dead. It was a promise. But I haven't read BATMAN since Bane broke the Batman and then turned into a good guy. I don't have anywhere to buy comics anymore so I just went cold turkey.
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Juan_Bottom wrote:Is that in the official story line? I read an interview with the writer in Wizard where they said Robin II was dead and he was going to stay dead. It was a promise. But I haven't read BATMAN since Bane broke the Batman and then turned into a good guy. I don't have anywhere to buy comics anymore so I just went cold turkey.
Nah- he came back, as they always do, and there's been three more Robins since then (if I'm counting right). One of those also died, but has since come back. The original is now batman, but so is the original batman, who died, but came back.

Simple really.
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pooperman is a wimpy girl. I like my heroes dark and deeply flawed, so fatman.

What constitutes a supervillian?*

Also, Buffy would f*ck them both up at the the same time, whilst dishing out some witty puns between punches.

I guess this topic is just about these two works of fiction. Cuz no villian was or probably ever will be better than the original Vader.

Edit: And I've never liked a single villain from either batman or superman, I thought they were always either too camp, or trying too hard to outbadass previous villians.
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That's messed up. I knew all about Robin three. But he's really a new character with his own costume and all. I'm very disappointed right now.
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Army of GOD wrote:Comics are for losers. Real men watch movies, only.
Yes. Movies like Batman, Superman, Spiderman, Blade, Wanted, Iron Man, Hellboy, Tankgirl, Scott Pilgrim, Fantastlic Four, X-Men, Wolverine, etc...

along with upcoming Nergasm flicks like Thor, Captain America, and Green Lantern.
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Juan_Bottom wrote:Is that in the official story line? I read an interview with the writer in Wizard where they said Robin II was dead and he was going to stay dead. It was a promise. But I haven't read BATMAN since Bane broke the Batman and then turned into a good guy. I don't have anywhere to buy comics anymore so I just went cold turkey.
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Army of GOD wrote:Comics are for losers. Real men watch movies, only.
Actually I have it on good authority that real men only watch sportz.
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We need a new thread if we are going to start debating who is the toughest comic character.

Buffy counts as a comic character because she has her own line now... But there is no way she would beat either Batman or Superman.

The toughest comic "hero"? Some may say Wolverine, but that is a cop out. The toughest character is actually the Sentry from Marvel who is "dead"... but he's not dead because he can't be killed. Note, this is not debatable, it's a fact. Note 2... I think the Sentry is like the worst main-stream character ever.
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Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:Comics are for losers. Real men watch movies, only.
Actually I have it on good authority that real men only watch sportz.
Like what? Professional Wrestling.. Which is just live action comics.
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Juan_Bottom wrote:That's messed up. I knew all about Robin three. But he's really a new character with his own costume and all. I'm very disappointed right now.
I don't bother with the new stuff, but Gotham PD (if I'm remembering the title right), was an excellent series that didn't bother with the nonsense. Well written, and a bit disturbing, if you feel like picking up a Batman story again, it's a good choice, even though it barely features batman.
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natty_dread wrote:Aquaman.
seriously? aquaman is lame compared to the other characters.
Justice league was pretty cool. It seems there they introduce a ton of characters that completely don't have their own comic strips. like that guy who shoots random arrows.
Superman > Batman. Who cares if Batman carries kryptonite? Superman can hire a hitman or something to take batman out like any regular human (not that he would). Also another reason I don't like batman is because the last batman movie The Dark Knight was really disturbing. And yes, the nespaper secret identity is a rather cliche that superman falls into, just like spiderman, green hornet, and maybe a few others. Also superman has some cool clones- Underdog, Krypto the Super Dog (what an ironic name, huh?), and Bionic Bunny (on the tv show Arthur). Batman has no clones except for Dark Bunny (also on tv show Arthur). Although Batman did get a contract with LEGO, bonus points for batman, but so did Spiderman. So yeah, that leaves Superman empty handed LEGO wise. But LEGO Also did Harry Potter, and harry potter = -bleh- (don't get me wrong - I still like LEGO a lot), so just because they got themselves into LEGO doesn't completely mean they're all it.
I agree, the hulk is also overpowered, but the guy isn't a sho-off, and he does everything he can to keep himself from getting angry- wearing anger watches, finding formulas to help cure him- he is trying to keep himself under control. +1 for hulk.
Iron man was cool, but too cocky. Also the only super hero who is plainly willing to give away his secret identity- that makes him extra cocky. And plus Stark is like batman- no super powers, just insane amount of money and cool high tech. green hornet also falls along these lines, although he's got an extra twist: his side-kick is the real super hero. But yeah Stark is completely sickly rich and cocky. "How iron man should have ended" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adW46gsMTXM. hilarious. shows how cocky Stark is.

In my opinion, Superman just beats Batman just because the joker is too evil, gives me nightmares just thinking about it.
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jimboston wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:Is that in the official story line? I read an interview with the writer in Wizard where they said Robin II was dead and he was going to stay dead. It was a promise. But I haven't read BATMAN since Bane broke the Batman and then turned into a good guy. I don't have anywhere to buy comics anymore so I just went cold turkey.
The only person to Stay Dead in a comic in Uncle Ben.
Only if they wear a costume. (though I think Blue Beetle's gone for good).
Even Captain Marvel (the Marvel comics one) who died of cancer in one of the all-time great comics, came back briefly.
DC has installed revolving doors in Heaven for the Flash characters.
But Mrs Dibny remains dead.
So does Tim Drake's dad.
I don't think two of Daredevil's fiancees are gonna rise up soon, even though one other did, That one he actually dug up to see if she was really gone.
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If I Could Have Any Superpower, It'd Definitely Be Invisibility
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It's kind of a nerdy question, but it always seems to come up. You'll be hanging out with a few friends and someone will ask, "If you could have any superpower you wanted, what would it be?" Most people can't answer right away because there's so many to choose from. But not me. I know exactly what I'd pick, hands down, every time: invisibility.

Just think about invisibility for a second. No one can see you. You're there but not there. You could be in the same room with someone, standing inches away, and they wouldn't realize it. Sure, they could reach out and touch you if they wanted—but why would they? They wouldn't know you were there! Heck, an invisible person could be watching me this very second, and if not for the fact that my super hearing allows me to detect a heartbeat anywhere in the world, I'd have no way of knowing.

Go stand in front of a mirror. Now, imagine there's no one looking back at you. Or what it would be like if you held your hands directly in front of your face and saw nothing but the wall on the other side of the room. That's impossible, right? That simply does not happen!

Invisibility would definitely blow people's minds. I could be holding a 50-ton tanker truck above my head, and it would look like it's just floating there, in total defiance of the laws of physics. Or I could put out a fire at an oil refinery with my super-cold breath, but no one would see me expel the subzero, hurricane-force winds from my lungs—to them it would be this miraculous gust of arctic air blowing in from absolutely nowhere.

Can you imagine what it's like to fly over a crowd of people and not have a single one of them look up and point at you? What could be more amazing than that?

There I am, floating invisibly outside Brainiac's spaceship. I can use my X-ray vision to make out every last detail of his evildoing, yet he's completely oblivious. His sensors detect something, of course, but he's sure they're malfunctioning because by all appearances there isn't anything out there. And later, when I nudge the earth from its orbit just enough to avoid his apocalypse beam, he never knows how I discovered his plan. He probably wouldn't believe me if I told him!

Yeah, invisibility is the best superpower, without a doubt. I honestly don't know why people even have this discussion.

The only downside to invisibility I can think of—and I've given this a lot of thought—is how tempting it would be to abuse it. For instance, it would be very easy to rob a bank. I could just stand in the lobby, totally unnoticed by anyone, and wait until everyone went home for the evening. Then, with the whole building to myself, I could simply walk up, rip the vault door off its hinges, and fill my money bags at the speed of light. If the police somehow arrived before I finished, I wouldn't have to worry about being arrested, because I could stroll right past them.

Which isn't to say I wouldn't want to be invisible. But with power like that, I'd just need to be very, very careful.

In any case, I realize it's a silly fantasy. It's never going to happen. If someone wants to shoot me, all they have to do is spot me on the street, aim, and pull the trigger, and if the bullet is going fast enough to hit me, it'll bounce off my chest in full view of everyone.

That's how it's always going to be. There's no getting around the limitations of the real world. It's fun to ponder, though. Come to think of it, it'd also be cool to have an elastic body and be able to stretch my arms and legs 20 feet or something. That'd be amazing.

Can you imagine?
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Aradhus wrote:pooperman is a wimpy girl. I like my heroes dark and deeply flawed, so fatman.

What constitutes a supervillian?*

Also, Buffy would f*ck them both up at the the same time, whilst dishing out some witty puns between punches.

I guess this topic is just about these two works of fiction. Cuz no villian was or probably ever will be better than the original Vader.

Edit: And I've never liked a single villain from either batman or superman, I thought they were always either too camp, or trying too hard to outbadass previous villians.
Darkseid is the baddest bad-boy by miles, Superman only has his insane powers when he's in a part of the universe with a convenient yellow sun; darkseid is hard as f*ck no matter where he is; he's regularly dished out a damn fine beating to Supes on Supes' own turf (ie afore-mentioned yellowed-sun areas) so he'd have to be the ultimate villain.
Vader's cool but he's in thrall to the emperor whereas Darkseid recognises no authority but his own! All Hail Lord Darkseid! :twisted:
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jonesthecurl wrote:
jimboston wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:Is that in the official story line? I read an interview with the writer in Wizard where they said Robin II was dead and he was going to stay dead. It was a promise. But I haven't read BATMAN since Bane broke the Batman and then turned into a good guy. I don't have anywhere to buy comics anymore so I just went cold turkey.
The only person to Stay Dead in a comic in Uncle Ben.
Only if they wear a costume. (though I think Blue Beetle's gone for good).
Even Captain Marvel (the Marvel comics one) who died of cancer in one of the all-time great comics, came back briefly.
DC has installed revolving doors in Heaven for the Flash characters.
But Mrs Dibny remains dead.
So does Tim Drake's dad.
I don't think two of Daredevil's fiancees are gonna rise up soon, even though one other did, That one he actually dug up to see if she was really gone.
Mrs. Dibny just died a couple years ago... give it time. Ditto for Blue Beetle.

I should have wrote the only character that MATTERS that will/has stayed dead is Uncle Ben. Even Gwen Stacy kinda came back in the Ultimate Line... whereas Uncle Ben is dead in both universes.

Even lame-ass characters that are "dead" make appearances in hell or in some series... like the Recent Marvel storyline with the dead-but-back-after-six-months Hercules. They had the "Dead Avengers" mini... and the Dead Alpha Flight comics... where the dead guys came back to fight. How/Why? I think Death Herself was "dead"... I forget the "LOGIC".

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In the Blackest night event, I was really hoping they'd have the courage to let all the dead people stay dead - it would really change the shape of things in an interesting way.

And for a glorious moment a coupla years ago when Marvel had skrull versions of all the superheroes running about, I thought (when it was revealed that Electra was a skrull) they were gonna say that all the characters that had "returned from the dead" were actually shapeshifting imposters. That woulda made a good story...and woulda tied together years of stroytelling in one fell swoop.
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But so far as I know there's no danger of a return of Karen Page (Daredevils original love interest). She became a porn actress and a drug addict, caught AIDS, came back into Matt's life, was cleaning herself up, got a great job (which turned out to be working for the Kingpin) and was then brutally killed by Bullseye.
Is Bullseye finally dead? Matt killed him recently while (I think) demonically possessed.
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Homicide detective Richard Fell would kick the crap out of both of them... just thought I'd mention :shock: :lol: :lol:


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I'm boycotting this poll because it ignores the fine off-topics tradition of always having a GFY/Kittens/Hecter/etc option.
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