% won vs Diff. opp. #

laughingcavalier · Post by **laughingcavalier** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:06 pm

vrs AndyDufresne 0% 0/1
vrs HighlanderAttack 38% 7/18
vrs Chariot of Fire 42% 7/17

But seriously:

8p - 17% 4/23 (equivalency 12.5%)
7p - 10% 1/10( 14.3%)
6p - 31% 12/39 (16.66%)
5p - 38% 3/8 (20%)
4p - 43% 23/53 (25%)
3p - 47% 35/75 (33.33%)
2p - 63% 506/805 (50%)

4p dubs - 63% 220/353 (50%)
trips - 59% 100/169 (50%)
quads - 69% 173/250 (50%)

6p dubs 100% 2/2 (50%)
8p dubs 17% 1/6 (25%)

Somewhere in this forum there's a thread that takes this a step further & gives you a weighting for each game type played, ie gives you a gametype-neutral win %. The maths is quite beyond me to recreate but I remember it was simple to do.

//edit
Hre it is:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 2#p2444088

KoolBak wrote:Frankie...

The games you have where the odds of winning are 50% are 1v1, 4 person doubs, 6 person triples and 8 person quad; YOU played 355 of these. Games with 33% chance of winning are 3 person singles and 6 person doubles; you played 45 of these. Games with 25 % = 10.....17% = 65.....13% = 38. I left out the 5 an 7 person singles as they were negligible. Weighting these is as follows; for the 50% games....355 / 516 (my total of games for you) = 69% of your games at a 50% chance of winning or 34.5% of your total win percentage is based on 1v1 and similar games. Adding the balance of the numbers, your average win rate, based on you winning by the odds exactly, would be 40.9%. You are above that at 46% so I would say you are better than the average player ;o)

Fruitcake wrote:
nippersean wrote:OK - I think i've got this now,

Singles
1v1 150/217 69% norm 50
3 ply 1/3 33% norm 33
4 ply 11/31 35% norm 25
5 ply 16/31 52% norm 20
6 ply 6/20 30% norm 17
7 ply 2/6 30% norm 14
8 ply 3/15 20% norm 13

Dubs 27/52 52% norm 50
Trips 11/15 73% norm 50
Quads 7/12 58% norm 50

Or have I......
Now the weighting thing - how does that work please?
The weighting depends on your total number of games.

eg. You have played 217 1v1 games out of a total of 401 games. This means the weighting for that particular result is 217x100/401=52% (in summary, 52% of your total played games are 1v1). The next part is then to multiply your result (69%) by the weighting factor (52%) so the equation reads 69x52%=35.9% against an average of 50x52%=26%

Do this for all your results and you will have two sums, one is a list of the averages, the other a list of your own results. Add the two columns and you will have your weighted total against the average weighted result.

QoH · Post by **QoH** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:25 pm

8p - 12% (12.5) 37 games
7 p - 14% (14.3%) 1 game
6p - 11% (16.66%) 10 games
5p - 14% (20%) 16 games
4p - 19% (25%) 20 games
3p - 29% (33.33%) 23 games
2p - 48% (50%) 1092 games

Dubs - 58% (50%) 302 games (6pD - 22%, 8pD - 48%)
Trips - 48% (50%) 62 games
Quads - 62% (50%) 90 games

Boy do I suck...

Chariot of Fire · Post by **Chariot of Fire** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:38 am

How can your 7p stat be 14% if you only played 1 game? Surely it would either be 100% (if u won) or 0%?

Post by **IcePack** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:43 am

I need to get map rank again

Gillipig · Post by **Gillipig** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:02 am

2 players 50% 418/813 (Average)
3 players 57% 93/162 (Very high)
4 players 47% 77/164 (Master)
5 players 30% 13/43 (High)
6 players 12% 13/113 (Very low)
7 players 17% 1/6 (Average)
8 players 4% 2/45 (Worthless)

Chariot of Fire · Post by **Chariot of Fire** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:10 am

Anyone care to post the stats for our noble Conqueror Gen.LeeGettinhed ?

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:00 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:Anyone care to post the stats for our noble Conqueror Gen.LeeGettinhed ?

here you go, complete with relative rank of opponents.

8p - 0% (12.5%) - 2 games - Equalitarian (1.090)
7p - 100% (14.3%) - 1 games - Equalitarian (0.933)
6p - 40% (16.66%) - 5 games - Point Hoarder (0.785)
5p - 33% (20%) - 6 games - Point Hoarder (0.631)
4p - 46% (25%) - 48 games - Point Hoarder (0.692)
3p - 43% (33.33%) - 42 games - Equalitarian (0.803)
2p - 84% (50%) - 1293 games - N00b Farmer (0.483)

dubs 4p- 82% (50%) - 168 games - Point Hoarder (0.626)
dubs 6p- 100% (33.33%) - 1 games - Point Hoarder (0.575)
dubs 8p- NaN% (25%) - 0 games
trips - 76% (50%) - 17 games - Point Hoarder (0.601)
quads - 78% (50%) - 9 games - Point Hoarder (0.623)

so the map rank shows what we all know. he's a 1v1 noob farmer with some attempts at 4p doubles farming.
everything else is negligible when you look at the number of games he completed.

Robinette · Post by **Robinette** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:22 pm

Denise wrote:Mine:
8p - 0% 0 from 44 Time to give up yet?

*Opens Game Menu*
*Starts some 8p escalators*
*Sends invites to Denise*
*Closes Game Menu*

Seriously though...
how is that even possible with your skills?

I've seen Denise play 5p & 6p escalators,
and let me tell you all right now,
this girl plays a killer good game.
Which kinda explains why she has a higher rank than you and me...

Robinette · Post by **Robinette** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:12 pm

Leehar wrote:
Btw, I'd be interested to see the results for serial large multiplayers like Robinette, comic boy etc?

Hey... i'm kinda interested to see this too...

Map Rank For Robinette

8p 21% 8 from 39 Serial Killer (61%)45 Equalitarian (0.918)
7p 14% 3 from 21 Serial Killer (50%)36 Equalitarian (0.969)
6p 26% 135 from 512 Serial Killer (63%)499 Equalitarian (0.859)
5p 42% 26 from 62 Serial Killer (74%)4 Point Hoarder (0.746)
4p 46% 12 from 26 Serial Killer (67%)14 Point Hoarder (0.787)
3p 50% 1 from 2 Serial Killer (67%)1 Point Hoarder (0.617)
2p 0% 0 from 1 Victim (0%)1 Point Hoarder (0.513)

Dang, 42% on 5p... I should play more 5p games, lol

Map Rank for comic boy

8p 31% 29 from 95 Murderer (43%)17 Equalitarian (0.909)
7p 20% 16 from 82 Serial Killer (59%)102 Equalitarian (0.958)
6p 33% 403 from 1217 547 (46) Serial Killer (58%)1319 Equalitarian (0.924)
5p 28% 22 from 78 Serial Killer (61%)80 Equalitarian (0.886)
4p 51% 217 from 426 Serial Killer (56%)366 Equalitarian (0.961)
3p 24% 4 from 17 Murderer (38%)5 Equalitarian (0.906)
2p 39% 21 from 54 Murderer (39%)12 Equalitarian (0.968)

Just as i thought... better numbers on almost all levels...
Damn that comic boy... he's one of the few who played esc better than me, grrrrrrr...

Crazyirishman · Post by **Crazyirishman** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:04 pm

Robinette wrote:

3p 50% 1 from 2 Serial Killer (67%)1 Point Hoarder (0.617)
2p 0% 0 from 1 Victim (0%)1 Point Hoarder (0.513)

Dang, 42% on 5p... I should play more 5p games, lol

You better quit bogrolling Robin, or you'll get a C&A report filed against ya.

QoH · Post by **QoH** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:35 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:How can your 7p stat be 14% if you only played 1 game? Surely it would either be 100% (if u won) or 0%?

Oh, the games I posted were the number of games I won... Was I supposed to do total games played in that setting?

Denise · Post by **Denise** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:22 pm

Robinette wrote:
Denise wrote:Mine:
8p - 0% 0 from 44 Time to give up yet?
*Opens Game Menu*
*Starts some 8p escalators*
*Sends invites to Denise*
*Closes Game Menu*

I was afraid of this...I am such a n00b on 8 player games, now everyone will try to bogroll me.

Robinette wrote:Seriously though...
how is that even possible with your skills?

I've seen Denise play 5p & 6p escalators,
and let me tell you all right now,
this girl plays a killer good game.
Which kinda explains why she has a higher rank than you and me...

Thank you! That means a lot, coming from one of the best. Don't think I will lapse into a false sense of security, though! I know your tricks and will stay on my toes in the game we're currently playing. Even though you claim your drop is worthless and you are only there for some fun chat, I know better!

Chariot of Fire · Post by **Chariot of Fire** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:50 pm

I was afraid of this...I am such a n00b on 8 player games, now everyone will try to bogroll me.

Excellent to see this term enter the CC lexicon and be used in its new meaning. Well done Denise!

Crazyirishman · Post by **Crazyirishman** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:55 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:
I was afraid of this...I am such a n00b on 8 player games, now everyone will try to bogroll me.
Excellent to see this term enter the CC lexicon and be used in its new meaning. Well done Denise!

+325 forum exp points for Denise pending the approval of King_Herpes, this is also equivalent to 72 becky points, or 13 Conquer Credits, whichever Denise chooses to add to her account.

Denise · Post by **Denise** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:30 am

hmm, tough choice. When do you have to know?

Chariot of Fire · Post by **Chariot of Fire** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:52 am

when you win your first 8p esc game.

that could be never

Denise · Post by **Denise** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:07 pm

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:08 pm

One of these days I'll try to play a large 8 player game again....one of these days...

--Andy

chapcrap · Post by **chapcrap** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:27 pm

If I could just get in enough 8 player games with Denise and Andy, I'd be conquerer in no time.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:32 pm

chapcrap wrote:If I could just get in enough 8 player games with Denise and Andy, I'd be conquerer in no time.

If you get 5 other players, I'll play with you and Denise in an 8 player game.

But really, Denise and I and some others really bad at 8 player games should come together and play in a game...so one of us can win!

--Andy

Robinette · Post by **Robinette** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:42 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
chapcrap wrote:If I could just get in enough 8 player games with Denise and Andy, I'd be conquerer in no time.
If you get 5 other players, I'll play with you and Denise in an 8 player game.

But really, Denise and I and some others really bad at 8 player games should come together and play in a game...so one of us can win!

--Andy

hahahaa... like horse racing...

CC DOWNS
3rd RACE
Approx. post 12:45pm
MAIDEN CLAIMING $0, Purse 150 points
FOR MAIDENS, FILLIES AND MARES, 3 YEARS AND UP
8 furlongs, ALL CAREER NON-WINNERS AT THIS DISTANCE
___________________________________________
1 DAZZLING DENISE
____________________________________________
2 ANDY'S BANANA BLOSSOM
____________________________________________
3 CRAP'S LAST CHAP
____________________________________________
4 MISS MYSTIC
____________________________________________
awaiting additional entrants...

Chariot of Fire · Post by **Chariot of Fire** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:43 am

Why don't you invite our beloved Conqueror? He's never played a standard 8-player esc game before.

Crazyirishman · Post by **Crazyirishman** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:05 am

I want to play, Im sure you robin can think of a clever horse name.

Chariot of Fire · Post by **Chariot of Fire** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:20 am

Crazyirishman wrote:I want to play, Im sure you robin can think of a clever horse name.

But you're 5 from 36. I thought it was race for non-winners only?

Denise · Post by **Denise** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:33 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:Why don't you invite our beloved Conqueror? He's never played a standard 8-player esc game before.

This game is chapcrap's to bogroll, so there is no room for our beloved Conqueror.

Here it is! I refused it on first invite, but then chapcrap started making chicken noises. That, and the allure of playing my first game with Andy, finally convinced me.
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