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dazerazer wrote:We do not have user groups allowed based on religion.
saxitoxin wrote:Serbia is a RUDE DUDE
may not be a PRUDE, but he's gotta 'TUDE
might not be LEWD, but he's gonna get BOOED
RUDE
Robinette wrote:Kaskavel wrote:Seriously. Who is the female conqueror of CC?
Depends on what metric you use...
The coolest is squishyg
squishyg wrote:Hey look, a minority wants something! Let's create rules to make it harder for them to get what they want! In the interest of fairness, naturally.
Hey look, a minority wants something! Let's ignore current rules and guidelines in order to give them special treatment over any other group, minority or not, so they can get what they want! In the interest of fairness, naturally.
saxitoxin wrote:Serbia is a RUDE DUDE
may not be a PRUDE, but he's gotta 'TUDE
might not be LEWD, but he's gonna get BOOED
RUDE
dazerazer wrote:Were you guys raised by wolves? What kind of gentlemen acts this way? There is NOTHING wrong with treating women with the respect they deserve! Plus with us being such a small few, what is the harm here? There are exceptions made for international tourneys. Why must you fight tooth and nail to prevent the women from feeling a little bit special on a male dominated and male-centric site? Oh... I guess that would be why. This is a male-centric site and you guys want to keep all aspects of it that way. I get it.
dazerazer wrote:Then there are also women who stay but are too intimidated to even allow people to know they are female because of how the guys treat them or act when they realize they are playing with a girl.
chapcrap wrote:dazerazer wrote:Then there are also women who stay but are too intimidated to even allow people to know they are female because of how the guys treat them or act when they realize they are playing with a girl.
This is true. I know someone that made her name specifically masculine so that people who she player with would think she was a man.
That being said, what can I do to get my wife (cardinal.baby) to play more?
dazerazer wrote:Look, I just wanted to start a tournament to make the women of CC feel welcome as well as to give them an outlet to meet other ladies on CC.
dazerazer wrote:Far too often women come to the site and then just leave unceremoniously because they are not comfortable here or feel isolated or intimidated
Then there are also women who stay but are too intimidated to even allow people to know they are female because of how the guys treat them or act when they realize they are playing with a girl. Obviously there are some who will disagree but we all know how things are most of the time with most of the players.
dazerazer wrote:Although we keep throwing the word "minority" around, there is a huge distinction between male vs. female and other minorities.
If CC would embrace that, I truly feel like there is a HUGE opportunity for exponential growth.
dazerazer wrote:Tripitaka, whats your problem? Seriously... what has you so bent that you feel it necessary to pick apart my statements? I mean no harm here so what's with the animosity? Relax.
chapcrap wrote:There aren't a lot of women on any online gaming site. I don't think CC does anything worse than anywhere else. I think it's just the style of the site that lends itself to having more men than women.
Lindax wrote:dazerazer wrote:Tripitaka, whats your problem? Seriously... what has you so bent that you feel it necessary to pick apart my statements? I mean no harm here so what's with the animosity? Relax.
Frankly daze, your statements (or what you call statements) are full of holes, biased opinions, assumptions and untruths.
Lx
chapcrap wrote:...what can I do to get my wife (cardinal.baby) to play more?
dazerazer wrote:Lindax, this isn't a Congressional Debate or some Tea Party Convention.
I may be phatscotty's girlfriend but my debating expertise is nowhere near as majestic.
Why are you so uptight about this?
Damn y'all make my head hurt with this back and forth as to why I'm wrong in wanting to spread a little extra love on CC.
If you are hell bent on stopping this, then so be it.
DoomYoshi wrote:To address a question why not start a usergroup called Vagina Ripperz? Well, most of the clans might as well be called that anyways. Most of the tournaments ARE male-only. That has already happened.
saxitoxin wrote:Serbia is a RUDE DUDE
may not be a PRUDE, but he's gotta 'TUDE
might not be LEWD, but he's gonna get BOOED
RUDE
Lindax wrote:Night Strike wrote:However, because of several comments from different people, I am open to hearing a discussion on the topic if there is a desire to write a legitimate and fair policy that covers gender-specific tournaments. If you would like to make a case for such a policy, please post and discuss it in a single thread in the Tournament General Info forum.
~Night Strike
Head Tournament Director
Does this mean that if there are "several comments from different people", that we can have a discussion about a legitimate and fair policy that covers race-specific tournaments? Or religion-specific tournaments?
Or how about starting a usergroup for man only, called "Vagina Ripperz"? Is there even the remotest chance that that would be allowed?
Ever heard of the term "positive discrimination"? Is that okay on CC? I would like to make a case for the rules being applied equally amongst all genders, races, religions, etc.
Lx
dazerazer wrote:Of course it didnt turn me away or I wouldn't be here. Strong female personalities are okay here. It is evident that some women arent comfortable here or there would be more. Most new players know very little about forums being that they come here initially to play the game. So yes, I am suggesting having more games for females rather than just a forum could potentially bring in more women.
Tripitaka, whats your problem? Seriously... what has you so bent that you feel it necessary to pick apart my statements? I mean no harm here so what's with the animosity? Relax.
anonymus wrote:Lindax wrote:Night Strike wrote:However, because of several comments from different people, I am open to hearing a discussion on the topic if there is a desire to write a legitimate and fair policy that covers gender-specific tournaments. If you would like to make a case for such a policy, please post and discuss it in a single thread in the Tournament General Info forum.
~Night Strike
Head Tournament Director
Does this mean that if there are "several comments from different people", that we can have a discussion about a legitimate and fair policy that covers race-specific tournaments? Or religion-specific tournaments?
Or how about starting a usergroup for man only, called "Vagina Ripperz"? Is there even the remotest chance that that would be allowed?
Ever heard of the term "positive discrimination"? Is that okay on CC? I would like to make a case for the rules being applied equally amongst all genders, races, religions, etc.
Lx
I missed this earlier and have no time to read the thread through now, but come on Lx, let the girls play a tournament.. Im sure no-one will drag this to its point as you predict..
Tammy asked me to write in the other thread and i forgot about it, but i read some of NS comments and it made me pissed (like so many of NS's comments do) but then i had to calm down when i saw him giving them a chanse and i think that took some backbone and i put my hands together for him for that. nightstrike!
The girls wanted a tournament, he saw most of them where from the same user-group (being girls on this site may lead to that you seek out other girls) and even though tourney-rules are written like they are, he was willing to listen to the COMMUNITY in this matter and that is commendable.
So give it a rest Lx, take a deep breath, calm down and let the girls play it will not harm anyone..
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Lindax wrote:
That's totally beside the point. Read my post again....
I have no problem with the one-time exemption, btw.
Lx
Serbia wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:To address a question why not start a usergroup called Vagina Ripperz? Well, most of the clans might as well be called that anyways. Most of the tournaments ARE male-only. That has already happened.
1st off, "Vagina Ripperz" is a direct reference to "Ball Busterz" - I hope you can appreciate the connection there. Secondly, on what, exactly, do you base your comment that "most clans might as well be called that anyways"? I'll speak for my clan - we have 3 active women in our group, and they are no less a part of our clan than any of the men. And I see some very visible clans about CC that CELEBRATE their female members. I am aware of no clan on CC that is outwardly, or even passively, aggressive to women on this site. Care to give examples?
Next, the fact that most tournaments are male-only is NOT by design. All tournaments on CC are open to anyone to join. Any girl can sign up, if she so chooses. In my second NHL-based tourney, for example, I had 4 women playing. One, Tripitaka, had the best regular season record (meaning she beat ALL the men), and another, amazzony, actually won the entire tournament. They did not need any special help to perform well in the tourney, and they did not need special reserved spots to join. The fact that there are more men on the site means that there is a greater chance of having all-men tourneys, but again, THIS IS NOT BY DESIGN. No one is excluding women.
Serbia wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:To address a question why not start a usergroup called Vagina Ripperz? Well, most of the clans might as well be called that anyways. Most of the tournaments ARE male-only. That has already happened.
1st off, "Vagina Ripperz" is a direct reference to "Ball Busterz" - I hope you can appreciate the connection there. Secondly, on what, exactly, do you base your comment that "most clans might as well be called that anyways"? I'll speak for my clan - we have 3 active women in our group, and they are no less a part of our clan than any of the men. And I see some very visible clans about CC that CELEBRATE their female members. I am aware of no clan on CC that is outwardly, or even passively, aggressive to women on this site. Care to give examples?
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