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Re: Republican War on Themselves

Postby Night Strike on Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:19 pm

Lootifer wrote:
Patches wrote:*snip*


For sure, I was just referring to efficiencies and all that.

Regarding your argument abotu tyrants in government; my question would be: is it not the best idea to remove the cause (setup a system where tyrants cant get into power) rather than treat the problem after infection (dilute the power tyranical politicians have)...?


That's exactly what our Constitution and federalism does. Ours was designed as the system to block the ability of tyrants to come to power. However, as the federal government has usurped more and more power over the years, that ability has been greatly weakened.
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Re: Republican War on Themselves

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:34 pm

Lootifer wrote:I work for a state owned enterprise. My thoughts on the way to work (you dont want to know what I think about as I wake up) are "how can I increase my businesses value the most today?".

I guess im just a unique snowflake eh? :roll:


They must foster a good corporate culture there.
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Re: Republican War on Themselves

Postby Lootifer on Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:36 pm

Nah cause in reality i dont create shit, i just post useless dribble on CC forums...
I go to the gym to justify my mockery of fat people.
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Re: Republican War on Themselves

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:38 pm

Lootifer wrote:
Yep. Federalism is exactly what this nation was founded on. The states were supposed to have the most power in the country with the federal government having a minimal amount (in fact, only those expressed powers written in the Constitution).


Interesting. I kind of agree and kind of dont.

It's great in theory; but I think it's failed in practice. Now im sure you will cite that the issues are all sourced from a central government trying to get bigger, which probably accounts for a decent amount of it; but I also feel that the simple existence of a [neccessary] relationship between a central government and 50-odd states means you guys were destined to end up where you guys are.

I mean FIFTY independent states? Holy moley thats a lotta fricken politicans...

When NZ cracks the 10 million people mark I certainly wont be voting for an independent south island; which is about average for your typical US state (280/50 = 5-6 million people per independent government). Just a culture thing obviously, but lawdy that seems crazy to me.


The States served as an effective constraint on almost all of the national government's economic decision-making from roughly the 19th to early 20th centuries. The Great Depression enabled the federal government to vastly increase its expenses and authority. The foundation was laid from the 1900s up to the Great Depression.
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Re: Republican War on Themselves

Postby BigBallinStalin on Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:38 pm

Lootifer wrote:Nah cause in reality i dont create shit, i just post useless dribble on CC forums...


But at least you get paid!
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