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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:52 pm

new guy1 wrote:There is nobody else in my faction. I am a survivor of the civil war. I just want to survive. I have a just have a really really huge feeling that the thalmor are the bad guys. I am trying to live through the great war, I do believe.


i for one believe your claim. but it does seem that you will be lynched. sorry to see you go.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby new guy1 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:54 pm

I mean, I guess it happens. My suspicions that the thalmor are the bad guys is cause the dohvakiin is not a bad guy, hes the protagonist. Though there are side quests that can make him evil, the main line is killing the big evil dragon. The great war is immenent in the game and the thalmor are against the legion. Therefore, since I am a reminent of the civil war the only war I know about after that is the great war, which includes the thalmor. Do any of you get my logic here?
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby XenHu on Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:58 pm

new guy1 wrote:Thats cool. I guess Im at L3 and have nobody helping me out, so I will just claim. Ralof, Stormcloak Remnant Survivor, I am obviously part of the stormcloaks and since I am a survivor role I actually believe the Thalmor to be the mafia, but that is just my opinion. I was talking about following along with someone's assumption that not VT meant power role, and that they did not include survivor. Im actually suprised that with my terrible defense and horrible sarcasm that you didnt think I was a jester :D. But either way, I did not let you know that I was not a powerrole because I know how survivors are viewed on this site and so it would have been bad to claim it. Either way, Im sure I will be lynched because I have not helped much this game and I have wasted alot of time and I am a survivor non the less. I obviously will ask that I am spared as I am no harm to either faction, but I know this will most likely be denied since I am the best choice for a lynch candidate. Thanks for the game guys, and Im sorry that I played with so much sarcasm and slips.



Well, if true, that is certainly a rather annoying role, at least in the way it has been played. It's a shame we have to waste a lynch on you(no offense intended). There are more worthy candidates, IMO, but your play-style has not been kind on the town, so I'm not exactly sad to see you go, either.

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new guy1 wrote:There is nobody else in my faction. I am a survivor of the civil war. I just want to survive. I have a just have a really really huge feeling that the thalmor are the bad guys. I am trying to live through the great war, I do believe.


i for one believe your claim. but it does seem that you will be lynched. sorry to see you go.


Oh, speak of the Devil. So sorry to see him go, but don't feel like putting your money where your mouth is? Food for thought on Day 4, gentlemen. Gotta lay out that sonar more often. Submariners abound!

(Also, OT, but I'd also like to chip in and say that Aimless was quite the character.)

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby new guy1 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:03 pm

Never heard of him, and I understand your resentment of my play style xenhu, and Im sorry that I dont have any names of who could be possible scum to put forth, but I have been rather preoccupied in RL and so I hope it is understandable.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:12 pm

XenHu wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Thats cool. I guess Im at L3 and have nobody helping me out, so I will just claim. Ralof, Stormcloak Remnant Survivor, I am obviously part of the stormcloaks and since I am a survivor role I actually believe the Thalmor to be the mafia, but that is just my opinion. I was talking about following along with someone's assumption that not VT meant power role, and that they did not include survivor. Im actually suprised that with my terrible defense and horrible sarcasm that you didnt think I was a jester :D. But either way, I did not let you know that I was not a powerrole because I know how survivors are viewed on this site and so it would have been bad to claim it. Either way, Im sure I will be lynched because I have not helped much this game and I have wasted alot of time and I am a survivor non the less. I obviously will ask that I am spared as I am no harm to either faction, but I know this will most likely be denied since I am the best choice for a lynch candidate. Thanks for the game guys, and Im sorry that I played with so much sarcasm and slips.



Well, if true, that is certainly a rather annoying role, at least in the way it has been played. It's a shame we have to waste a lynch on you(no offense intended). There are more worthy candidates, IMO, but your play-style has not been kind on the town, so I'm not exactly sad to see you go, either.

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new guy1 wrote:There is nobody else in my faction. I am a survivor of the civil war. I just want to survive. I have a just have a really really huge feeling that the thalmor are the bad guys. I am trying to live through the great war, I do believe.


i for one believe your claim. but it does seem that you will be lynched. sorry to see you go.


Oh, speak of the Devil. So sorry to see him go, but don't feel like putting your money where your mouth is? Food for thought on Day 4, gentlemen. Gotta lay out that sonar more often. Submariners abound!

(Also, OT, but I'd also like to chip in and say that Aimless was quite the character.)

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please explain how i would put my money where my mouth is?

no dont lynch new guy

like that?
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby XenHu on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:19 pm

Newguy is a detriment to the town, as it has been more or less stated, regardless of the fact that he is (supposedly) not anti-town. Why would you not move to have him lynched? I can say I am sorry to see him go, as I have a hand in putting him to death. Yet, you will not share the burden.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby new guy1 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:24 pm

Maybe he is like me and thinks that a survivor can be more help then hurt. I will suggest you put me to death if you find no better case, but I would also suggest you review your other cases before you lynch me as you might find some that will help town win though I dont really care, as Im just trying to live till the end.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:27 pm

new guy1 wrote:Maybe he is like me and thinks that a survivor can be more help then hurt. I will suggest you put me to death if you find no better case, but I would also suggest you review your other cases before you lynch me as you might find some that will help town win though I dont really care, as Im just trying to live till the end.


exactly
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby XenHu on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:34 pm

new guy1 wrote:Maybe he is like me and thinks that a survivor can be more help then hurt. I will suggest you put me to death if you find no better case, but I would also suggest you review your other cases before you lynch me as you might find some that will help town win though I dont really care, as Im just trying to live till the end.


But, at this point, you haven't been, so there's always the risk that we take you on your word, and then you'll fail to deliver.Pardon my skepticism, but you can understand why I think the way I do.


Some7hingCLEVER wrote:exactly


Now that's just plain lazy. I really don't have any words for this. Well, actually, I have many, but none pleasant and few that will help the course of this game.

What I will say is that I'll enjoy the (hopefully) ensuing spectacle that comes from this comment. Are you even trying? Newguy, maybe you'll be spared after all.

Unvote, Vote: Clever

I don't want people swooping in and hammering newguy yet. Let's see what this yields. There is still have plenty of time.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby new guy1 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:37 pm

Clever is relatively new in my eyes and I dont see why you would pursue him, but I would assume you can if you see something scummy in an opinion, you know the same thing you guys all saw in my case. I personally dont think he is scummy, but then again I dont really have any reads.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby XenHu on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:42 pm

new guy1 wrote:Clever is relatively new in my eyes and I dont see why you would pursue him, but I would assume you can if you see something scummy in an opinion, you know the same thing you guys all saw in my case. I personally dont think he is scummy, but then again I dont really have any reads.


Well, I'll tell you what I do see at first glance. Someone who has been on my list of non-contributing players/submariners and someone who couldn't defend his way out of a wet paper bag.

Well, harsh, I feel my comment appropriate. Considering I didn't even mount a case against him, so much as ask him a question, it seems the least he could do was come up with a suitable response, instead of riding of the back of yours.


Lazy play, IMO. Oddly enough, the same thing that landed you in hot water most of the game. :P

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby XenHu on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:45 pm

EBYOP: -While-. That's it, I'm going to bed.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby new guy1 on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:49 pm

I beg to differ on the get myself out of a wet paper bag part as I have done it before and givin the right circumstances, time, and energy I would have never been in the situation, must less had to defend myself.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby edocsil on Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:54 am

new guy1 wrote:I beg to differ on the get myself out of a wet paper bag part as I have done it before and given the right circumstances, time, and energy I would have never been in the situation, must less had to defend myself.


Yes, if you had a town power role would have had an easier time making a defense. As for time and energy, well people have those for what is important to them. That is why some of the good players are never in more then 3 or so games, they do not have the time to devote to more.

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:exactly


Lazy. You should be vigged. In fact if I was in your shoes I would have already claimed due to fear of NKs from the town. Also, what you are agreeing to is almost enough to warrant mod action. You and your group of friends are far to quick to trust each other, and it is a massive burden to the town.

And one thing. X how many maroon names are there?
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby jonty125 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:22 am

FOS clever for laziness,

but a 3rd party claim & a stormcloak (people who might be mafia in this game if I've got this right). unvote vote newguy1 That's L-2 I believe.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby XenHu on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:19 am

edocsil wrote:
new guy1 wrote:I beg to differ on the get myself out of a wet paper bag part as I have done it before and given the right circumstances, time, and energy I would have never been in the situation, must less had to defend myself.


Yes, if you had a town power role would have had an easier time making a defense. As for time and energy, well people have those for what is important to them. That is why some of the good players are never in more then 3 or so games, they do not have the time to devote to more.

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:exactly


Lazy. You should be vigged. In fact if I was in your shoes I would have already claimed due to fear of NKs from the town. Also, what you are agreeing to is almost enough to warrant mod action. You and your group of friends are far to quick to trust each other, and it is a massive burden to the town.

And one thing. X how many maroon names are there?


Five, in total.

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:35 am

Lazy? how am i being lazy. would you rather me copy his entire post and post that. i merely agreed. how is that lazy? i believe that survivors are as usefull to town as vt roles are. is that not a fair point? i mean if you rthink about it it is easier for survivors to play for town to win instead of mafia as it is easier for them considering there is more town and they could by all means be an extra townie if played right. so please tell me how i was being lazy?
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby nagerous on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:50 am

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:Lazy? how am i being lazy. would you rather me copy his entire post and post that. i merely agreed. how is that lazy? i believe that survivors are as usefull to town as vt roles are. is that not a fair point? i mean if you rthink about it it is easier for survivors to play for town to win instead of mafia as it is easier for them considering there is more town and they could by all means be an extra townie if played right. so please tell me how i was being lazy?


That's if you believe the claim - for all we know he could be a lone SK. And survivors are not the same as VTs, due to their specific WC, they can always make arrangements with the scum when it comes to end game.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:53 am

nagerous wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:Lazy? how am i being lazy. would you rather me copy his entire post and post that. i merely agreed. how is that lazy? i believe that survivors are as usefull to town as vt roles are. is that not a fair point? i mean if you rthink about it it is easier for survivors to play for town to win instead of mafia as it is easier for them considering there is more town and they could by all means be an extra townie if played right. so please tell me how i was being lazy?


That's if you believe the claim - for all we know he could be a lone SK. And survivors are not the same as VTs, due to their specific WC, they can always make arrangements with the scum when it comes to end game.


think about it. if he was an sk would he be playing this way. all loose and not caring. all he has to do is survive. an sk has to hide. regardless im pretty sure he is third party and i do believe the survivor part.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby edocsil on Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:54 am

nagerous wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:Lazy? how am i being lazy. would you rather me copy his entire post and post that. i merely agreed. how is that lazy? i believe that survivors are as usefull to town as vt roles are. is that not a fair point? i mean if you rthink about it it is easier for survivors to play for town to win instead of mafia as it is easier for them considering there is more town and they could by all means be an extra townie if played right. so please tell me how i was being lazy?


That's if you believe the claim - for all we know he could be a lone SK. And survivors are not the same as VTs, due to their specific WC, they can always make arrangements with the scum when it comes to end game.


This. Your comment Clever only further goes to show how you are not contributing as a townie. Survivors regularly side with the scum, especially due to the fact that when forced to claim it is highly unlikely that the scum will kill them. Then the scum can force town lynches a day earlier with the help of the survivor.

Fasposted by clever. Wifom. End of story.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:00 am

edocsil wrote:
nagerous wrote:
Some7hingCLEVER wrote:Lazy? how am i being lazy. would you rather me copy his entire post and post that. i merely agreed. how is that lazy? i believe that survivors are as usefull to town as vt roles are. is that not a fair point? i mean if you rthink about it it is easier for survivors to play for town to win instead of mafia as it is easier for them considering there is more town and they could by all means be an extra townie if played right. so please tell me how i was being lazy?


That's if you believe the claim - for all we know he could be a lone SK. And survivors are not the same as VTs, due to their specific WC, they can always make arrangements with the scum when it comes to end game.


This. Your comment Clever only further goes to show how you are not contributing as a townie. Survivors regularly side with the scum, especially due to the fact that when forced to claim it is highly unlikely that the scum will kill them. Then the scum can force town lynches a day earlier with the help of the survivor.

Fasposted by clever. Wifom. End of story.


well if they sided with town in the begining. i feel it easier. and its not like they can side with mafia due to not knowing who they are :P anyway i know that was wifom but didnt realize till i posted it. did i see someone say to claim? is that really a good idea to get me through the night
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby edocsil on Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:04 am

Some7hingCLEVER wrote:Well if they sided with town in the beginning, I feel it is easier for them to win. It's not like they can side with mafia due to not knowing who they are. Anyway I know that was wifom but I didn't realize till I posted it. Did I see someone say to claim? Is that really a good idea to get me through the night?


I said I would claim, if someone was suggesting I were to be vigged. If you could be bothered to read any posts you would know the answer to your question.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby new guy1 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:22 am

I saw the answer to the question edoc. Clever, as far as Im concerned, I have been no help to town and no hurt to town. I have been no help to mafia (except in the aspect that I have wasted most of day 3) and really no hurt to mafia (allowing most of them to hide if they wanted to while my questioning was going on). This said, I understand how you dont want to kill me because I could possibly side with town, but edocsil is right, and most survivors side up with mafia at end game as I could be threatened by the mafia if I dont side with them, and even if I said that I would side with town, that wouldnt be playing my WC as thats just trying to survive. Edoc is right, stop defending me.
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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 2: There Is One They Fear (15/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:52 am

Vote Count 1

shield: 1 (soundman)
new guy: 4 (pancake, nagerous, edocsil, jonty)
clever: 1 (Xenhu)
Not Voting: 6 (shield, new guy, ghostly, Clever, LSU, crazy)

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Re: Skyrim Mafia Day 3: Glory of the Dead (12/18)

Postby new guy1 on Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:23 pm

jonty125 wrote:FOS clever for laziness,

but a 3rd party claim & a stormcloak (people who might be mafia in this game if I've got this right). unvote vote newguy1 That's L-2 I believe.


Wait a minute. Why would the thalmor player have claimed to be a miller role? Thalmor are OBVIOUSLY the mafia here, otherwise he would not have fake claimed. So tell me, if your going to fos a player for shortening his statement to exactly because it was what he meant then how are you not going to catch this? I am not even on town's side yet I noticed this. You people are so funny :). Also, FOS jonty, because you know he didnt add anything :).
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