World's happiest countries

[The Voice]

The happiness survey was carried out by the same organization in each country.

This only means that the exact same people (Europeans most likely [if nothing else, people who live in developed nations) reduced happiness to the exact same variables.

[huamulan]

The conducting of the poll in each country by the same organization means that the criteria and methods have been consistent. This is opposed to national reporting of suicide figures, which vary wildly depending on the country's religiosity, community values and general level of coroner ineptness.

'I think there is a correlation between climate and happines and crime rates'

Certainly. Look at the low crime rates of hot countries like Brazil, Colombia and most of Sub-Saharan Africa.

[Army of GOD]

The happiness survey was carried out by the same organization in each country.

This only means that the exact same people (Europeans most likely [if nothing else, people who live in developed nations) reduced happiness to the exact same variables.

SYNTAX ERROR. CANNOT COMPUTE POST.

[nietzsche]

We only disagree because we are unhappy.

[Army of GOD]

haha, read this in the link: "Heading up the list: Denmark, which rose to the top thanks to its wealth, natural beauty, small size, quality education, and good health care."

Not that I'm a proponent of not having health care or whatever, but something tells me this survey leaned a little left.

I wonder what countries would be considered the happiest if you polled a large group from each country. Just ask "are you happy?"

[thegreekdog]

I also question how people decide they are happy relative to others. For example, if I get wreck my Mercedes driving my kids to their private school before my 9 to 5 job as a banker and then my $2 million mansion catches on fire so I have to go to my beach house with my super model wife who is 20 years younger than me, I'm probably unhappy. On the other hand, if a dude in Pakistan finally gets that job at the oil field in Saudi Arabia making $5 a day, he's probably pretty happy.

[saxitoxin]

"Heading up the list: Denmark, which rose to the top thanks to its ... small size

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[nietzsche]

I also question how people decide they are happy relative to others. For example, if I get wreck my Mercedes driving my kids to their private school before my 9 to 5 job as a banker and then my $2 million mansion catches on fire so I have to go to my beach house with my super model wife who is 20 years younger than me, I'm probably unhappy. On the other hand, if a dude in Pakistan finally gets that job at the oil field in Saudi Arabia making $5 a day, he's probably pretty happy.

This is not rocket science, we hear it all the time. Yet it's the only truth about happiness.

I've been blaming it for long time now in TV. Nowadays we know how fucking americans live, and their crib or whatever those idiots who don't know caps should be bent a little call their mansions. We, like greek slaves, would be happy with anything we had or had to do if we accepted our fate. Greek slaves were known for saying that their owners had it worse, because they had to go to war and serve their own feudal king, and all they have to do, the slaves, was work the land and they got food every day!


Once you fucking know all money can buy you have a hard time forgetting it.

[thegreekdog]

I also question how people decide they are happy relative to others. For example, if I get wreck my Mercedes driving my kids to their private school before my 9 to 5 job as a banker and then my $2 million mansion catches on fire so I have to go to my beach house with my super model wife who is 20 years younger than me, I'm probably unhappy. On the other hand, if a dude in Pakistan finally gets that job at the oil field in Saudi Arabia making $5 a day, he's probably pretty happy.

This is not rocket science, we hear it all the time. Yet it's the only truth about happiness.

I've been blaming it for long time now in TV. Nowadays we know how fucking americans live, and their crib or whatever those idiots who don't know caps should be bent a little call their mansions. We, like greek slaves, would be happy with anything we had or had to do if we accepted our fate. Greek slaves were know for saying that their owners had it worse, because they had to go to work and serve their own feudal king, and all they have to do, the slaves, was work the land and they got food every day!


Once you fucking know all money can buy you have a hard time forgetting it.

It seems like you're saying the opposite of what I'm saying (ironically). You've interpreted my post as saying that simple is better. I'm actually saying that someone with that kind of life should be happy when he compares his life to others' lives.

[nietzsche]

I also question how people decide they are happy relative to others. For example, if I get wreck my Mercedes driving my kids to their private school before my 9 to 5 job as a banker and then my $2 million mansion catches on fire so I have to go to my beach house with my super model wife who is 20 years younger than me, I'm probably unhappy. On the other hand, if a dude in Pakistan finally gets that job at the oil field in Saudi Arabia making $5 a day, he's probably pretty happy.

This is not rocket science, we hear it all the time. Yet it's the only truth about happiness.

I've been blaming it for long time now in TV. Nowadays we know how fucking americans live, and their crib or whatever those idiots who don't know caps should be bent a little call their mansions. We, like greek slaves, would be happy with anything we had or had to do if we accepted our fate. Greek slaves were know for saying that their owners had it worse, because they had to go to work and serve their own feudal king, and all they have to do, the slaves, was work the land and they got food every day!


Once you fucking know all money can buy you have a hard time forgetting it.

It seems like you're saying the opposite of what I'm saying (ironically). You've interpreted my post as saying that simple is better. I'm actually saying that someone with that kind of life should be happy when he compares his life to others' lives.

Oops.

[thegreekdog]

I also question how people decide they are happy relative to others. For example, if I get wreck my Mercedes driving my kids to their private school before my 9 to 5 job as a banker and then my $2 million mansion catches on fire so I have to go to my beach house with my super model wife who is 20 years younger than me, I'm probably unhappy. On the other hand, if a dude in Pakistan finally gets that job at the oil field in Saudi Arabia making $5 a day, he's probably pretty happy.

This is not rocket science, we hear it all the time. Yet it's the only truth about happiness.

I've been blaming it for long time now in TV. Nowadays we know how fucking americans live, and their crib or whatever those idiots who don't know caps should be bent a little call their mansions. We, like greek slaves, would be happy with anything we had or had to do if we accepted our fate. Greek slaves were know for saying that their owners had it worse, because they had to go to work and serve their own feudal king, and all they have to do, the slaves, was work the land and they got food every day!


Once you fucking know all money can buy you have a hard time forgetting it.

It seems like you're saying the opposite of what I'm saying (ironically). You've interpreted my post as saying that simple is better. I'm actually saying that someone with that kind of life should be happy when he compares his life to others' lives.

Oops.

I agree with you though (for whatever that's worth at this point).

[huamulan]

Army of God: 'Not that I'm a proponent of not having health care or whatever, but something tells me this survey leaned a little left.'

You are surprised that people who do not have to worry about enormous healthcare bills have more peace of mind than people who do?

[huamulan]

The problem isn't watching programs like MTV Cribs. Personally, I don't see any attraction to owning a house that contains a night club. That's the house of someone whose life is so empty that they need to try and fill it with money. The problem is watching these programs and wishing you live like that.

It's bizarre. People with very little money sit around arguing that life would be better if they had more money. People with a lot of money say that their money gives them nothing and they wish they live up a mountain in Kenya, or whatever. People's problem is wanting what they don't have, focusing on the 'bad' in their lives rather than focusing on the great things they already have. Unless you're having your toenails torn out by security forces, life is a pretty great thing if you just accept that it's great.

[saxitoxin]

Army of God: 'Not that I'm a proponent of not having health care or whatever, but something tells me this survey leaned a little left.'

You are surprised that people who do not have to worry about enormous healthcare bills have more peace of mind than people who do?

I would think people who have to go to the physician in a dirty, rat-infested hospital filled with the best medical equipment the 1980s has to offer - as in Denmark and most of Europe outside Switzerland, Holland and a few other places - would be less happy than those who have access to 20th century medical facilities.

[huamulan]

1980s
20th century

H'okay.

Assuming this was a typo and you meant 21st century: when was the last time you visited a Swiss hospital? Perhaps you think Swiss people live in mud huts. What is life like on your planet?

The point still stands that a McDonald's worker who receives government healthcare is not going to shit his underwear if he breaks his leg. If breaking his leg saddled him with a bill of $25,000 he'd be screwed.

[saxitoxin]

1980s
20th century

H'okay.

Assuming this was a typo and you meant 21st century: when was the last time you visited a Swiss hospital? Perhaps you think Swiss people live in mud huts. What is life like on your planet?

The point still stands that a McDonald's worker who receives government healthcare is not going to shit his underwear if he breaks his leg. If breaking his leg saddled him with a bill of $25,000 he'd be screwed.

Huh? I said Switzerland and Holland are examples of fantastic, modern healthcare relative to the gross, assembly line factory hospitals of other parts of Europe, like Denmark.

Why would a McDonald's worker with health insurance have to pay $25K for a broken leg? Most of these crap plans from companies like McDonalds and BestBuy have a $5K deductible with 20% OOP. An average one point break probably costs about $8K in treatment so a broken leg would cost the worker $1,600 to treat, which is roughly what one would otherwise pay in taxes for a government factory hospital in the UK. So it's a wash.

[huamulan]

$1,600 to treat, plus the enormous insurance bills. Versus the tax bill of $1,600 with no extra costs.

Sorry, I see I read your previous post about standards of healthcare incorrectly. Change what I said from Switzerland to Denmark and then from me it's the same questions as before.

[greenoaks]

Unless you're having your toenails torn out by security forces, life is a pretty great thing if you just accept that it's great.

i pulled one of my toenails out last night and i feel happy. sure i'm walking with a minor limp as my right big toe is a little tender but that will wear off in a few hours.

[saxitoxin]

$1,600 to treat, plus the enormous insurance bills. Versus the tax bill of $1,600 with no extra costs.

The $1600 in this scenario is the insurance bill.

Your knowledge of how health insurance works seems to be similar to the knowledge a horror film fan has about Victorian architecture. Very few houses suffer hauntings.

[nietzsche]

Ok who's going to address the elephant in the room? who's this guy's multi of?

[saxitoxin]

Ok who's going to address the elephant in the room? who's this guy's multi of?

we already decided he's Hairy Potter / Barackattack / carpetman during a discussion on the board in the Conquer Club Platinum Centurion Usergroup sponsored by Sobe Lifewater

if you were a member of that group you'd already know this

[Army of GOD]

THRILLICIOUS!

[Army of GOD]

Army of God: 'Not that I'm a proponent of not having health care or whatever, but something tells me this survey leaned a little left.'

You are surprised that people who do not have to worry about enormous healthcare bills have more peace of mind than people who do?

I would think people who have to go to the physician in a dirty, rat-infested hospital filled with the best medical equipment the 1980s has to offer - as in Denmark and most of Europe outside Switzerland, Holland and a few other places - would be less happy than those who have access to 20th century medical facilities.

the 1980s are 20th century saxi =|

[saxitoxin]

Army of God: 'Not that I'm a proponent of not having health care or whatever, but something tells me this survey leaned a little left.'

You are surprised that people who do not have to worry about enormous healthcare bills have more peace of mind than people who do?

I would think people who have to go to the physician in a dirty, rat-infested hospital filled with the best medical equipment the 1980s has to offer - as in Denmark and most of Europe outside Switzerland, Holland and a few other places - would be less happy than those who have access to 20th century medical facilities.

the 1980s are 20th century saxi =|

whatev' - when you're as ol' as ol' Saxi, the centuries start to run together

[Army of GOD]

What was it like during the Franco-Prussian war uncle saxi?