Diablo 3

[xeno]

I didn't really dig having to sign into a server every time I want to play.

-TG

This. A thousand times this as me and my roommate felt the pain of having the game for a week but not being able to play it because lo and behold we did not have internet. f*ck blizzard for these shenanigans that you need to be signed in to their server to play the game you bought.

[zimmah]

Well technically the client has been set up such that it doesnt need to back and forth between the servers to continue playing. IE: Its client side and only sends packets to the servers to make sure everything is behaving as it should; even when ur latency meter shows 200ms you should still see instant ability use etc etc.

HOWEVER: This was the design intent, it sounds VERY much like the implementation is a long way away from this.

in other words, it communicates with the server to check if a monster really dies, and if it dies, to determine the drops, also it checks if you die, and it checks your position at certain intervals. in other words, it's basically sending packets constantly.

i have a decent connection, not very fast but stable, once i had a hickup while attacking a large group of monsters with an attackspeed of 3 attacks per second. all the mobs were at 1 hp at some point while the screen was filled with my spells,i also saw damage numbers flying around as if i was hitting them, but none of them died, a few seconds later, everything was dead simulataniously.

above example proves my point. and besides, it was singleplayer.

[grifftron]

From what my brother says, items are important. One of his buddies had a wizard and it sucked. My bro found a wand and now it is a bad ass character.

Items were just as important in D2.... I remember finding a windforce back in the days before the game went downhill and kicked ass in the hell cow runs for hours and hours of fun. Heck I was even around when SOJ's were the currency on D2.

That is very lame that they did not add the PVP option to D3, can you still trade with players? someone said only 4 max to a room? you would think they would have upgraded the game not take things away from it... they still have hardcore players? I wonder with future patches if they could change some of these things and add PVP and up the max of players in one game, still have cow runs on D3?

[natty dread]

Everyone knows that Blizzard no longer cares about making games that are fun to play... all they care about is bleeding their customers dry with farmville type "games" like WoW

[2dimes]

From what my brother says, items are important. One of his buddies had a wizard and it sucked. My bro found a wand and now it is a bad ass character.

If you get the rob and hat you're pretty much unbeatable.

[MoB Deadly]

Everyone knows that Blizzard no longer cares about making games that are fun to play... all they care about is bleeding their customers dry with farmville type "games" like WoW

Put 100 hours into it.... Beat it 3 times, on Inferno for the hardest difficulty....

BUT ITS SUCH A BAD GAME

honestly...... NOTHING is stable in that game, they NERF everything back and forth. Everything revolves around their shiny RMAH (Real Money Auction House). Blizzard takes a 15% cut on every transaction.

The only reason I played it is because I used to be a HUGE d2 and Blizzard fan. Even though I knew it was a shitty game I just couldn't put it down.. kinda sounds like how the Final Fantasy series is getting.

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Example... Players discovered a good Gold farming spot... I spent over 2 Mil in gold in Gold Find gear so that I can start farming. (anyone that knows diablo, knows that farming is necessary to play the game). You simply cannot play Inferno Act 2 without farmed gear. After I spent the 2 million, THEY NERFED the farm spot the very next day. Not to mention that the items are so.... whats the word..... idk, anti-climatic? A regular blue item is better than most "Legendary" items. I feel like I have nothing to work for in the game.

I refuse to play the game until patch 1.03 comes out. For now I am sticking with League of Legends which is finally available for macintosh
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[grifftron]

Everyone knows that Blizzard no longer cares about making games that are fun to play... all they care about is bleeding their customers dry with farmville type "games" like WoW

Put 100 hours into it.... Beat it 3 times, on Inferno for the hardest difficulty....

That is all I had to read to know that it baited and hooked you in. That is exactly what D2 was, you had to cow run in HELL with magic find items just to get good items, that is all advanced players did, no one continued to beat the game over and over to find items, yet somehow these cow runs to get some of the best items in the game was addicting, what was the purpose? once you had the best items in the game, then what? Then you got bored after a while, maybe started to go after some PVP items and did that for a while, maybe made a hardcore character, or maybe just started all over from scratch... this is the world of diablo. You said the game is so horrible yet it drew you in for 100+ hours of your precious time AND on top of that you said you will continue to play it after the patch comes out.

Even in D2 there came a point where the "blue items" which i believe were the magical items (been a while) were at some point better then any unique item (if you could find them). Diablo is all about finding items that balance out a character the best you can, so you can farm cows to the fullest, not about beating the game over and over... lol

Edit: OH and as for blizzard wanting your money in their little auction house or whatever you call it, WHAT website / game company / person (lackattack) does not want your money these days. Welcome to the world

[natty dread]

It used to be that games were addictive because they were GOOD and FUN to play (I know, right? weird), not because they were specifically designed to bait you into grinding for hours and do repetitive tasks you don't enjoy because the game tries to sneakily condition your brain with bs rewards and achievements.

Blizzard is the Zynga of the rpg world.

[Symmetry]

It used to be that games were addictive because they were GOOD and FUN to play (I know, right? weird), not because they were specifically designed to bait you into grinding for hours and do repetitive tasks you don't enjoy because the game tries to sneakily condition your brain with bs rewards and achievements.

Blizzard is the Zynga of the rpg world.

Yeah, dude, Pong was all about the story.

[MoB Deadly]

That is all I had to read to know that it baited and hooked you in. That is exactly what D2 was, you had to cow run in HELL with magic find items just to get good items, that is all advanced players did, no one continued to beat the game over and over to find items, yet somehow these cow runs to get some of the best items in the game was addicting, what was the purpose? once you had the best items in the game, then what? Then you got bored after a while, maybe started to go after some PVP items and did that for a while, maybe made a hardcore character, or maybe just started all over from scratch... this is the world of diablo. You said the game is so horrible yet it drew you in for 100+ hours of your precious time AND on top of that you said you will continue to play it after the patch comes out.

this is true, I feel like D2 had a "real goal" to it. Get the best items, which were NOT blues, but legendary or set items that took a LONG time to farm to get. Now I can just farm for a couple Million gold and just buy it off the auction house. But even worse, is that the legendary and set items are not worth a whole lot, there are a ton of yellows that have better stats then them. And it's a lot less gratifying showing off your stupid yellow items.

And in D2 there were things that the "average player" could not obtain. First it didnt take 1 month to get to max level... There were "Torches" that only the elite were able to obtain..

There's nothing like that in this game, at least not yet.... I know it wouldnt be that hard to buy the items I need to finish the game, but then you are right... then what??? So I am lacking the motivation to do it.

Then I think....

Maybe it will be better as the game grows....
Maybe I just matured over the years and realize there IS no accomplishment in wasting 100 hours of my life farming for a fancy item in a video game....
Or maybe I am rightfully hating blizzard for putting out a half hassed franchise title that has to get patched every other week and directly nerfs things that I took hours to finally achieve.

It used to be that games were addictive because they were GOOD and FUN to play (I know, right? weird), not because they were specifically designed to bait you into grinding for hours and do repetitive tasks you don't enjoy because the game tries to sneakily condition your brain with bs rewards and achievements.

Blizzard is the Zynga of the rpg world.

Very true.

[Woodruff]

Not in Diablo 3 actually. You have to connect to Blizzard's servers even if you want to play single player.

In all seriousness, that's just insanely stupid. I understand the pirating issue, but if pirates want it, they'll have it. Making it a complete pain in the ass for the paying customer doesn't make good business sense.

[natty dread]

Not in Diablo 3 actually. You have to connect to Blizzard's servers even if you want to play single player.

In all seriousness, that's just insanely stupid. I understand the pirating issue, but if pirates want it, they'll have it. Making it a complete pain in the ass for the paying customer doesn't make good business sense.

Yeah it's weird... if there was a car that would stop running the moment your gps loses it's signal, you wouldn't buy that car. But for games it's apparently totally acceptable.

[AndyDufresne]

Since users keep buying their games and agreeing to these sorts of terms for play, they probably think they'll continue to get away with most anything...and it might be true! Ha.


--Andy