F400 Clan Ranking [Sept 1] Updated!

***The database is case sensitive and the abbreviations must be exactly the same to count. So make sure your clan is listed exactly the same each battle and that the score is correct.

Original FD Link: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 29&start=0
Gunn217 Link: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 80&start=0

by **IcePack** on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:06 pm

I will be taking over the F400 Ranking System after speaking with Gunn217 today.

Cheers,
IcePack

by **John Deere** on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:29 pm

Thanks for taking it over/ keeping it going!

by **Chariot of Fire** on Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:41 pm

Good job Ice. And thanks Gunn for all you've done to date.

by **freakns** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:38 am

whos naked pictures do you have?

Gunn, tnx for all the work man

by **Chariot of Fire** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:51 am

freakns wrote:whos naked pictures do you have?

Just one, of your playmate freaky:

by **ViperOverLord** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:23 am

Alright, stop, collaborate and listen. Ice is in charge of a brand new edition.

by **TheCrown** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:57 am

Much respect to those who are currently or have in the past put time and effort into making CC a better place to live. O:)

by **chemefreak** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:21 pm

Can you explain how it works?

by **IcePack** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:27 pm

chemefreak wrote:Can you explain how it works?

There's a fairly detailed explanation of how it works by FD. If you follow the original link, he links to the explanation off his first post.

IcePack

by **Foxglove** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:46 pm

Thanks for picking this up, IcePack!

by **pamoa** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:58 pm

tanks to Gunn
and to you Ice

by **chapcrap** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:03 pm

chemefreak wrote:Can you explain how it works?

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Some things just can't be answered.

by **chemefreak** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:12 pm

IcePack wrote:
chemefreak wrote:Can you explain how it works?

There's a fairly detailed explanation of how it works by FD. If you follow the original link, he links to the explanation off his first post.

IcePack

Actually, what I mean is, do you (the person now running the thing) know how it works? Can you explain the Otpisani issue? What I am thinking here is: Is this the rating system we really want to use without FD running it if no one understands EXACTLY what it is providing us? Or since it seems good enough...then it will work?

Ice, I am not being a dick. I'm really glad you decided to help out and pick this up from Gunn. However, I think we may need to ask ourselves: Is it time to figure something else out? Just a thought.

by **IcePack** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:15 pm

chemefreak wrote:
IcePack wrote:
chemefreak wrote:Can you explain how it works?

There's a fairly detailed explanation of how it works by FD. If you follow the original link, he links to the explanation off his first post.

IcePack

Actually, what I mean is, do you (the person now running the thing) know how it works? Can you explain the Otpisani issue? What I am thinking here is: Is this the rating system we really want to use without FD running it if no one understands EXACTLY what it is providing us? Or since it seems good enough...then it will work?

Ice, I am not being a dick. I'm really glad you decided to help out and pick this up from Gunn. However, I think we may need to ask ourselves: Is it time to figure something else out? Just a thought.

I understand the system fairly well id say. If you want to clarify what you mean by "the OTP issue" perhaps I can be of some help here.

IcePack

by **chemefreak** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:27 pm

IcePack wrote:
I understand the system fairly well id say. If you want to clarify what you mean by "the OTP issue" perhaps I can be of some help here.

IcePack

I'm glad to hear it. Can you explain how Otpisani is so highly ranked? Due to results in file and decay factors, along with the weighting that is involved there is most likely an error in the data. Are you able to locate it? Or did you just find an anomaly in the formula?

by **IcePack** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:31 pm

I'll look into it tonight, @ work currently.

by **chemefreak** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:41 pm

IcePack wrote:I'll look into it tonight, @ work currently.

No worries. My hope is that it is a simple fix. Everyone seems to like this ranking system so much.

by **Foxglove** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:44 pm

chemefreak wrote:
IcePack wrote:I'll look into it tonight, @ work currently.

No worries. My hope is that it is a simple fix. Everyone seems to like this ranking system so much.

It's been, by far, the best one that we've ever had.

And by "best" I mean there have been fewer complaints that it's inaccurate than any of the other systems we've used over the years.

by **chemefreak** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:46 pm

Foxglove wrote:
chemefreak wrote:
IcePack wrote:I'll look into it tonight, @ work currently.

No worries. My hope is that it is a simple fix. Everyone seems to like this ranking system so much.

It's been, by far, the best one that we've ever had.

And by "best" I mean there have been fewer complaints that it's inaccurate than any of the other systems we've used over the years.

Amen.

by **Crazyirishman** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:09 pm

chemefreak wrote:
IcePack wrote:
I understand the system fairly well id say. If you want to clarify what you mean by "the OTP issue" perhaps I can be of some help here.

IcePack

I'm glad to hear it. Can you explain how Otpisani is so highly ranked? Due to results in file and decay factors, along with the weighting that is involved there is most likely an error in the data. Are you able to locate it? Or did you just find an anomaly in the formula?

Quite simple I think. 1.) Start new clan 2.) Win your 1st two clan challenges 3.) Enjoy a spot in the top 10

by **chemefreak** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:39 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:
chemefreak wrote:
IcePack wrote:
I understand the system fairly well id say. If you want to clarify what you mean by "the OTP issue" perhaps I can be of some help here.

IcePack

I'm glad to hear it. Can you explain how Otpisani is so highly ranked? Due to results in file and decay factors, along with the weighting that is involved there is most likely an error in the data. Are you able to locate it? Or did you just find an anomaly in the formula?

Quite simple I think. 1.) Start new clan 2.) Win your 1st two clan challenges 3.) Enjoy a spot in the top 10

That is not the way the Algorithm should function. My money is on an incorrect piece of data. If it is not, then the formula needs examined to see if it is an inherent issue or one created by the transfer of knowledge from FD to Gunn to Ice.

by **IcePack** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:21 pm

chemefreak wrote:
Crazyirishman wrote:
chemefreak wrote:
IcePack wrote:
I understand the system fairly well id say. If you want to clarify what you mean by "the OTP issue" perhaps I can be of some help here.

IcePack

I'm glad to hear it. Can you explain how Otpisani is so highly ranked? Due to results in file and decay factors, along with the weighting that is involved there is most likely an error in the data. Are you able to locate it? Or did you just find an anomaly in the formula?

Quite simple I think. 1.) Start new clan 2.) Win your 1st two clan challenges 3.) Enjoy a spot in the top 10

That is not the way the Algorithm should function. My money is on an incorrect piece of data. If it is not, then the formula needs examined to see if it is an inherent issue or one created by the transfer of knowledge from FD to Gunn to Ice.

Well I haven't looked into the specifics yet, but the top 10 are merely 200 points away from "starting" positions. To gain weight you need 3-4 clan scores entered into the mix, and I believe if you win all of them you can "debut" in top ten (whether you stay there is another matter).

The same scenario happened with LHDD entering the top 10 after New Comers Cup 2, although (I believe) they've slowly drifted downwards from there.

The rating system is fairly reflective of clan strength, essentially the only "complaints" that I remember seeing in the past two threads are of new clans being able to peak relatively high.

For OTP however, I will check all data and ensure the information provided the algorithm is correct. Rest assured, even if the current spot is "correct" as OTP plays more clan wars they should theoretically "settle" where they more accurately should be.

IcePack

by **John Deere** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:25 pm

That shouldn't be right Ice. We had to win something like 8 wars straight to get in the top 10. And one of those where in the top 10.

by **IcePack** on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:38 pm

John Deere wrote:That shouldn't be right Ice. We had to win something like 8 wars straight to get in the top 10. And one of those where in the top 10.

I just got home (worked some massive OT today) so I'll start checking some stats.

IcePack

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