NCIS Mafia: Mafia Win!!

by **new guy1** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:46 pm

Unvote. Actually believe it or not it was an accident. I thought only two people voted him before me, not 3. So sorry.

by **new guy1** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:48 pm

Ahhh see. I saw the strike vote, but it did not register in my head so I still went ahead. Still sorry, and I understand any FOS/Vote put on me. I wont put my vote back for confusion's sake (in case IB wants to put his vote back).

by **edocsil** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:42 pm

FFS L-1 is no big fucking deal. Used to be you never claimed till someone said they would hammer. Anyhow, Mr. S gets the point all the same.

by **chapcrap** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:54 pm

Day 4: Second Official Vote Count:

edocsil:
Iron Butterfly:
isaiah40:
jonty125:
Mr. Squirrel: edocsil, strike wolf (L-3)
new guy1:
safariguy5:
strike wolf: thechuck51
thechuck51:

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline in about 129 hours.

by **safariguy5** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:28 pm

Claim Mr. Squirrel?

by **edocsil** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:05 pm

safariguy5 wrote:Claim Mr. Squirrel?

Did you see him on here?

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:48 pm

I won't say this sudden pressure on me is entirely unexpected. Frankly, I'm a little surprised it took you this long to get to me.

edocsil wrote:Yesterday my "Noob Lynch" was considered scummy as shit, and largely with good reason.

I'd like to start my defense by pointing this out here. Your case was scummy as shit. In fact, I have hardly ever seen a case more scummy. If Happy hadn't turned up scum, the tables would be flipped right now and it would be your head on the chopping block. I honestly don't think I should have to defend my attacks against you. I was chasing a lead just the same as you were. Your lead was more successful than mine, but just because I was (likely) wrong doesn't mean I'm scum.

edocsil wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:
edocsil wrote:If we don't get anything going here I am going to advocate lynch the rookies. I should have some time to read tonight to see if I can find something better, but I will place a vote one way or another tonight.

Lynch the rookies? Really? That's a terrible idea. Just because someone is new doesn't mean they're scum. And what if we have a mafia full of experienced players? Then we are essentially helping them win. Major FOS to you and new guy (who agreed with you).

Now, I could understand lynching the inactives (such as happyfeet), but that is drastically different from "lynching the rookies".

This was an easy position to take advantage of, but also keeps his hands moderately clear of both the case against me, and the defense of Happy. It was a good way to test the waters to see if any traction could be made against me.

I made this quote when happyfeet had only two votes on him (if my count is correct). Thats still quite a ways away from being threatening. Also, the idea that I was "testing the waters" holds no water whatsoever. I voted you less than twelve hours after I made that post and a majority of the town was in agreement with you. If I had been testing the waters, I would not have jumped in I like I did.

edocsil wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:I think you missed the part in edocsil's post where he asked for a claim.

Now here he is coaching his scum partner into an attempt to keeping himself alive. Honestly, if Happy would have claimed some halfway decent power role instead of voting me (and following Mr. S's lead in that vote) I think the case would have crumbled in the final hours.

By this logic, anytime anyone asks someone for a claim that means they are scumbuddies. You wanted a claim, I wanted a claim, the whole town wanted a claim. So my post is more passive-aggressive, so what? Thats how I write. :geek:

And I highly doubt the case would've crumbled. We were coming up on the deadline (as you reiterated so many times) and happy's lynch was pretty much guaranteed. You've played enough mafia to know that cases never change in the last 48 hours unless its a c9 game or something of comparable size.

edocsil wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:Honestly, unless he has an absolutely perfect claim with proof of his innocence, I want to see him lynched now. His lack of a claim makes me think that he doesn't have one to give.

Does anyone know if chap usually gives fakeclaims to scum?

Here he washes his hands of a ally that is sure to be a liability if he doesn't remove himself. He does this at the same time as he questions the existence of fakes. This is a transparent attempt to imply that he could not possibly be scum. I have the pair to say that scum have fakes. They must, it's the only prevention to a mass claim. To really even imply otherwise would really be mocking Chap's ability to mod a game, especially for a flavor game like this.

In short, Mr. S worked too hard to defend Happy when he thought he could still get away with it, and I am calling him out for it.

You might have a pair to GUESS that the scum have fakes but you can't be sure. I've played many games where they don't get them. Its not uncommon. Even in themed games. It sucks, but it happens.

By what do you mean, I could "still get away with it". The entire time most of the town was agreeing with you. Sure, some guys voiced their agreement that you were acting a little scummy, but the votes stayed on happy and it was abundantly clear early on that he was going to get lynched (or at least to L-1 with a claim). So what was I getting away with? Saving Happy? Nope. Wasn't happening. And even if we were scumbuddies, why would I stick my neck out for him? Like you said, he's a newbie. He doesn't contribute much. I'm a nice guy, but not that nice.

As for my claim I'm Jenny Shepard, Town Busdriver. Apparently she's some administrative person and I can tell people where to go.

by **edocsil** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:57 pm

We are thinking there was a scum busdriver right?

by **new guy1** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:15 pm

The idea was proposed, but after looking up the name, she is the board director. She is very important in the series because everytime NCIS has to do something extreme she must be asked first. Thats what I got from what I watched of the series. Shes also Gibb's ex wife if I remember correctly. Its a bold thing to fake claim, IMO.

by **edocsil** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:28 pm

new guy1 wrote:The idea was proposed, but after looking up the name, she is the board director. She is very important in the series because everytime NCIS has to do something extreme she must be asked first. Thats what I got from what I watched of the series. Shes also Gibb's ex wife if I remember correctly. Its a bold thing to fake claim, IMO.

That's one of four IIRC? And busdriver for administrator? Also, actions are required to verify he is a BD at all, and he was kind enough to forget to post them.

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:37 pm

edocsil wrote:
new guy1 wrote:The idea was proposed, but after looking up the name, she is the board director. She is very important in the series because everytime NCIS has to do something extreme she must be asked first. Thats what I got from what I watched of the series. Shes also Gibb's ex wife if I remember correctly. Its a bold thing to fake claim, IMO.

That's one of four IIRC? And busdriver for administrator? Also, actions are required to verify he is a BD at all, and he was kind enough to forget to post them.

N1: No action. Didn't want to screw up other people's night actions.
N2: Switched chuck with Isaiah to protect chuck.
N3: Switched CM5 with Isaiah. Decided protecting chuck at this point might not be worth it (since we weren't sure of sanity) and tried to protect CM5. Backfired I guess.

by **edocsil** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:40 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
edocsil wrote:
new guy1 wrote:The idea was proposed, but after looking up the name, she is the board director. She is very important in the series because everytime NCIS has to do something extreme she must be asked first. Thats what I got from what I watched of the series. Shes also Gibb's ex wife if I remember correctly. Its a bold thing to fake claim, IMO.

That's one of four IIRC? And busdriver for administrator? Also, actions are required to verify he is a BD at all, and he was kind enough to forget to post them.

N1: No action. Didn't want to screw up other people's night actions.
N2: Switched chuck with Isaiah to protect chuck.
N3: Switched CM5 with Isaiah. Decided protecting chuck at this point might not be worth it (since we weren't sure of sanity) and tried to protect CM5. Backfired I guess.

Lying. 100% certain. Hang me if I am wrong.

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:55 pm

edocsil wrote:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:
edocsil wrote:
new guy1 wrote:The idea was proposed, but after looking up the name, she is the board director. She is very important in the series because everytime NCIS has to do something extreme she must be asked first. Thats what I got from what I watched of the series. Shes also Gibb's ex wife if I remember correctly. Its a bold thing to fake claim, IMO.

That's one of four IIRC? And busdriver for administrator? Also, actions are required to verify he is a BD at all, and he was kind enough to forget to post them.

N1: No action. Didn't want to screw up other people's night actions.
N2: Switched chuck with Isaiah to protect chuck.
N3: Switched CM5 with Isaiah. Decided protecting chuck at this point might not be worth it (since we weren't sure of sanity) and tried to protect CM5. Backfired I guess.

Lying. 100% certain. Hang me if I am wrong.

Care to explain?

by **strike wolf** on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:55 pm

So that would mean he got a guilty result on himself on N2 and an innocent on the claimed DiNozzo n3. So we either have Dinozzo as a fake claim or something is seriously wrong here.

by **chapcrap** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:32 am

As the crazed man moved closer, searching for new people to join his cause, he happened across a new face. Eager to spew his religious beliefs, the crazed man, approached the new face. However, when he began talking, the potential recruit realized what he was saying and decided that there was no time like the present.

He dropped is coat to reveal large amount of explosives taped to his body. Before the crazed man new what was happening, the warmth of the explosion seared into him.

Mr. Squirrel - Mohamed Jad Alah (Mafia Suicide Bomber) is dead.
edocsil - Chisholm Bishop (Cult Recruiter) is dead.

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. A 48 hour extension is added to the day. Deadline is in 170 hours. All votes are removed.

by **strike wolf** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:35 am

Well that was unexpected.

by **edocsil** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:28 am

SHIT. I had things going so well after 2 positive scum hunts too. I wish you had given me a heads up their Mr. S, there are things I would have said before you died.

by **safariguy5** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:29 am

Well crap. How many cultists do we think there are?

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:30 am

edocsil wrote:SHIT. I had things going so well after 2 positive scum hunts too. I wish you had given me a heads up their Mr. S, there are things I would have said before you died.

This has been terribly unfortunate for both of us

by **edocsil** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:30 am

edocsil wrote:SHIT. I had things going so well after 2 positive scum hunts too. I wish you had given me a heads up their Mr. S, there are things I would have said before you died.

Oh, and go town. After handing you 2 scum I think I manage to secure you victory largely by accident.

by **edocsil** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:31 am

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
edocsil wrote:SHIT. I had things going so well after 2 positive scum hunts too. I wish you had given me a heads up their Mr. S, there are things I would have said before you died.

This has been terribly unfortunate for both of us

Quite. If you had gone and nuked someone else, I would have stood a good chance of winning. But I won't say more till after the game is done.

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:03 am

I never made a death post, and the rules do say we can talk after death, so long as it's not game-influencing. So, I would just like to say...

I WAS RIGHT!!! Said he was Mafia after picking up on something not even two pages into the game. And I was right about Edo too. Vindication is a beautiful thing.;-;

by **Iron Butterfly** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:40 am

So did the recruiter put a guilty on people? That seems to be what he is implying?
THAT was the somthing AMISS!!!

Normally with a cult recruiters death those recruited revert back or are VT. I would be curious to hear from Isaiah.

by **strike wolf** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:30 am

I've thought about it and I think it's best to reveal what I know. I was recruited by Edocsil night 1 but upon his death I have again become town. Its true Isaiah was cult as well (recruited last night) which is how Edoc knew that Mr. Squirrel was lying. When Edoc died we both reverted back to being townies. I regained my original role and I don't see any reason Isaiah hasn't as well.

As for what happened N2. Me and Edocsil thought the best target would be Gibbs.. Apparently however Gibbs proved to be unrecruitable or otherwise protected from recruitment (probably the former).

My role is relatively minor in nature. As town I was a minor investigative role (which is why I believed more than most of you that Ziva was paranoid (I guess she's most likely insane unless there's another reason Isaiah's role would come up guilty)). However when I was recruited into cult, my role advanced, I was able to investigate people and see who would make a willing cult. On N2 I tried to investigate Safariguy but as you know I was role blocked. On N3 I again investigated Safari and was told he would not make a willing cult. This means that either Safari is scum (if Edocsil had attempted to recruit mafia he would have died) or unrecruitable. There's basically two roles I feel definitively probably wouldn't be recruitable, one of them is dead and the other would have been Ziva (former Israeli operative. strongly loyal. her being seduced by cult didn't make much sense in my eyes). So I would propose town to vote Safariguy

Also for the record, if Edocsil had any ability beyond recruiting, he did not tell me (lead to believe he didn't have any).

by **isaiah40** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:28 am

strike wolf wrote:I've thought about it and I think it's best to reveal what I know. I was recruited by Edocsil night 1 but upon his death I have again become town. Its true Isaiah was cult as well (recruited last night) which is how Edoc knew that Mr. Squirrel was lying. When Edoc died we both reverted back to being townies. I regained my original role and I don't see any reason Isaiah hasn't as well.

As for what happened N2. Me and Edocsil thought the best target would be Gibbs.. Apparently however Gibbs proved to be unrecruitable or otherwise protected from recruitment (probably the former).

My role is relatively minor in nature. As town I was a minor investigative role (which is why I believed more than most of you that Ziva was paranoid (I guess she's most likely insane unless there's another reason Isaiah's role would come up guilty)). However when I was recruited into cult, my role advanced, I was able to investigate people and see who would make a willing cult. On N2 I tried to investigate Safariguy but as you know I was role blocked. On N3 I again investigated Safari and was told he would not make a willing cult. This means that either Safari is scum (if Edocsil had attempted to recruit mafia he would have died) or unrecruitable. There's basically two roles I feel definitively probably wouldn't be recruitable, one of them is dead and the other would have been Ziva (former Israeli operative. strongly loyal. her being seduced by cult didn't make much sense in my eyes). So I would propose town to vote Safariguy

Also for the record, if Edocsil had any ability beyond recruiting, he did not tell me (lead to believe he didn't have any).

I can confirm this, I now too have my Dinozzo role back. Vote Safariguy!