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Re: In Regards to Chick-fil-A

Postby GreecePwns on Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:42 pm

No one is suggesting any amendment of the sort.

In Brown v. Board of Education that the Supreme Court ruled that "separate but equal is not equal." So what does that mean here?

1. The government must recognize gay and straight marital relationships using the same word for both.
1a. If benefits provided by the government are to remain existing, the government must either use the word "marriage" to describe both straight and gay couples and issue Marriage Licenses to all couples or use the words "civil union" to describe both straight and gay couples and issue Civil Union Licenses to all couples.
1b. The government can also choose to recognize neither straight nor gay marriages and remove any benefits associated with marriage provided by the government and issue no licenses whatsoever. This is where we agree.

2. The government, if it is to recognize marriages in the equal manner described in 1a, must require private entities to treat all married couples, straight or gay, equally according to Brown v Board of Education.
2a. If the government does not recognize marriage at all, it need not require private entities do treat straight and gay couples equally.
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Re: In Regards to Chick-fil-A

Postby Woodruff on Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:58 am

Phatscotty wrote:
GreecePwns wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:what rights and benefits do you refer to? can you be specific please? (I thought it wasn't about benefits)


Please, don't twist my words. The primary motivation for gay marriage is not receiving benefits. It is about equality in the eyes of the government and society.

Visitation rights in hospitals, representation in court, countless private matters (financial transactions, for example).


These things can be handled separately and individually, and I will add that they should be.

We do not need to redefine marriage.


It's already been redefined, many times, to become what you seem to now believe is "traditional". This has been pointed out to you many times. The only conclusion one can reach at this point is that you simply intentionally refuse to be educated on your own words.
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Re: In Regards to Chick-fil-A

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:50 am

Phatscotty wrote:We do not need to redefine marriage.

Then why do you keep insisting that the Christian church, and the US government or individual state governments EVER had the right to do that?

I see.. it was OK to change it before, because you did not like earlier, broader definition, but when you LIKE the definition, then it doesn't need to be changed...
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Re: In Regards to Chick-fil-A

Postby natty dread on Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:37 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
the race card? how unpredictable! It's good to see you back Pimpdavid


It was about time for phatso to play the race card card again.
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