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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby General Brock II on Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:06 am

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General Brock II wrote:Interestingly enough, the OP has it right. If somebody had have had a gun or some other weapon capable of firing a projectile, then perhaps not as many people would have died. Ever wondered why crime rates are low in the Texas countryside? Why people still feel comfortable keeping their doors unlocked?


Nebraska isn't a state full of gun-carriers. We certainly have our share, and they are pretty competent and confident with them. But it's not to the extent that Texas is, not even close. Yet Nebraskans live in the same sort of environment, as far as feeling safe and feeling comfortable with our doors unlocked. Why? Because Nebraskans are typically pretty good people in a state with a pretty good job market (one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation), and so you don't have as much crime for those reasons as well. I guess my point is...it's not necessarily a "gun result", as you're trying to paint it.

General Brock II wrote:In this society, the majority of people do not respect guns or treat them as a normal, every day implement... Since it's difficult to obtain them, there is mystique surrounding them and a surreal feeling of power.


Guns are not difficult to get in the United States. This is patently and demonstrably false. I don't believe that in the United States, they have any such mystique surrounding them, either.


Patches, actually, I hadn't heard of that shooting incident in Zug, prior to your mentioning it... But it does seem to indicate a point, doesn't it? When was the last violent shooting in Switzerland? 2001. In Norway, 2011. In Canada, 2012. In USA, 2012. In Sweden, 2012. back later... men's rowing is on. :P
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Lootifer on Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:43 pm

General Brock II wrote:men's rowing is on. :P

f*ck yeah, great race from the Canadians; glad they pipped the British.

Hard to argue with the domination Germany showed thou.
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:00 pm

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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Aradhus on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:14 pm

you know, I have deliberately stayed out of these forums for months. I'm about to take a break from the whole site for at least a couple of months, and I thought I would pay the forum one last visit before I leave. My fucking bad luck that this was the topic I randomly chose to open. The cinema or theartre(or whatever the f*ck it's called in america) shooting I couldn't give two fucks about. It's a yawn feast for me. I haven't read a single article on it.


It only took one page of reading before I regretted paying the fourm a visit one last time, and I couldn't even make it through the whole topic I had to stop halfway through. As I was also playing poker at the same time and reading this fucking topic is the equivalent of getting cold decked with quad aces against a royal flush, so I was tilting bad.

It's un-fucking-bearable. This idiot trolls everybody, he utilizes various methods to bait people, and absolutely f*ck all get's done about it. I get forum banned 2 or 3 times for absolute fucking nothing. I've seen other people get banned for similar. Somehow but this fucking racist dishonest bigoted idiot trolls, baits, completely flaunts the fucking rules with the majority of his posts, contributes absolutely fuckall of value, and he gets away with it scotty free.

Moderation on this forum is a fucking disgrace.
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Woodruff on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:20 pm

Aradhus wrote:It's un-fucking-bearable. This idiot trolls everybody, he utilizes various methods to bait people, and absolutely f*ck all get's done about it. I get forum banned 2 or 3 times for absolute fucking nothing. I've seen other people get banned for similar. Somehow but this fucking racist dishonest bigoted idiot trolls, baits, completely flaunts the fucking rules with the majority of his posts, contributes absolutely fuckall of value, and he gets away with it scotty free.
Moderation on this forum is a fucking disgrace.


Phatscotty does not troll. Ever. This has been stated clearly by the moderators as a whole. Clearly, the moderators think that Phatscotty is incapable of coherent thought.

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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Neoteny on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:36 pm

Yeah. The kicker is that everyone actually responds to scotty. They give him a platform to continue spouting his hatred and ignorance and validating his opinions in his eyes and those who share his warped views of reality. He's not worth the time dedicated to popping a zit, much less engaging intellectually. Shame on all of you.
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:40 pm

Neoteny wrote:Yeah. The kicker is that everyone actually responds to scotty. They give him a platform to continue spouting his hatred and ignorance and validating his opinions in his eyes and those who share his warped views of reality. He's not worth the time dedicated to popping a zit, much less engaging intellectually. Shame on all of you.


you wouldn't be so kind as to cherry pick your best example would ya?
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Neoteny on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:52 pm

Nope. Ineffective. Unnecessary. Validating your platforms. Popping a zit.
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:53 pm

Neoteny wrote:Nope. Ineffective. Unnecessary. Validating your platforms. Popping a zit.


Okay, and is your empty list of examples about this thread? and the warped, crazy support of the second amendment?

If you want to take our guns away, you will have to do better than calling names and creating your own reality.
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Neoteny on Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:06 pm

I'm not sure which part of "I won't dignify the surreal absurdity you call a 'worldview' by engaging it" you don't understand. I will continue describing your perspectives as "non-reality based" and "childlike" because they are accurate descriptors. I would be offended that you think I'm resorting to name calling if I weren't so used to you distorting everything through your kafkaesque kaleidoscope of hatred and smug self righteousness. I reserve the name calling for people I actually like.
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Lootifer on Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:48 pm

The problem is (@ Aradhus, Neoteny, Haggis etc) he is very careful to not cross the line.

Its the equivilent of a policeman telling someone to not touch their car, and then that someone running around the car, with his hands positioned millimeters off the surface, screaming "NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING".
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:01 pm

NEOTENY STOP. JUST STOP.


alright, no one is allowed to post in this thread anymore so that Phatscotty has no reason to respond either. NO MORE.






















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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Neoteny on Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:06 pm

I don't really care that the mods let him stay. Indeed, I encourage a relaxed policy on such things. I am sort of irked that other posters treat him somewhat seriously, but it is what it is. At a certain point it's fun to smack down an easy target, and I reckon that everyone's tolerance threshholds are staggered enough that he always has someone willing to toy with him.
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:08 pm

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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Army of GOD on Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:08 pm

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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:06 am

Neoteny wrote:I'm not sure which part of "I won't dignify the surreal absurdity you call a 'worldview' by engaging it" you don't understand. I will continue describing your perspectives as "non-reality based" and "childlike" because they are accurate descriptors. I would be offended that you think I'm resorting to name calling if I weren't so used to you distorting everything through your kafkaesque kaleidoscope of hatred and smug self righteousness. I reserve the name calling for people I actually like.


sooo....you're gonna troll me??? Great plan

whatever, freak
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby john9blue on Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:09 am

i thought it was: first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win

but the liberals here have a different method: first they fight you, then you win, then they realize that they've lost and pretend to laugh while running away, THEN they put you on ignore
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:14 am

Lootifer wrote:The problem is (@ Aradhus, Neoteny, Haggis etc) he is very careful to not cross the line.

Its the equivilent of a policeman telling someone to not touch their car, and then that someone running around the car, with his hands positioned millimeters off the surface, screaming "NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING".


for example? (a real one is better)
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Woodruff on Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:03 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Neoteny wrote:Yeah. The kicker is that everyone actually responds to scotty. They give him a platform to continue spouting his hatred and ignorance and validating his opinions in his eyes and those who share his warped views of reality. He's not worth the time dedicated to popping a zit, much less engaging intellectually. Shame on all of you.


you wouldn't be so kind as to cherry pick your best example would ya?


How would that be any different than cherry picking the best example (or ten) of you ignoring answers to your own questions? How would that be any different than cherry picking the best example (or ten) of you avoiding answering questions posed to you?

It wouldn't. As I've told you before, until you start demonstrating that you're actually interested in responses to these kinds of demands by you, we've given up on continuing to provide them, based on your demonstrated behavior of simply continuing to ignore them.
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Woodruff on Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:05 am

Lootifer wrote:The problem is (@ Aradhus, Neoteny, Haggis etc) he is very careful to not cross the line.

Its the equivilent of a policeman telling someone to not touch their car, and then that someone running around the car, with his hands positioned millimeters off the surface, screaming "NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING".


I was thinking more of me and my sister when we were about four. I would poke her, she'd complain to mom that I was touching her. Mom would then say "stop touching your sister" and so I would take my finger and put it as close as possible to her without touching her. It still pissed my sister off, but I was following directions!

That's the problem with "the line" in this instance...there's no rationality or consideration to it, most likely because they fear that will be a lot more effort (which is certainly a possibility, though I would disagree).
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Woodruff on Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:07 am

john9blue wrote:i thought it was: first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win

but the liberals here have a different method: first they fight you, then you win, then they realize that they've lost and pretend to laugh while running away, THEN they put you on ignore


Thank you, Mr. Moderate.
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Neoteny on Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:38 am

Phatscotty wrote:
Neoteny wrote:I'm not sure which part of "I won't dignify the surreal absurdity you call a 'worldview' by engaging it" you don't understand. I will continue describing your perspectives as "non-reality based" and "childlike" because they are accurate descriptors. I would be offended that you think I'm resorting to name calling if I weren't so used to you distorting everything through your kafkaesque kaleidoscope of hatred and smug self righteousness. I reserve the name calling for people I actually like.


sooo....you're gonna troll me??? Great plan

whatever, freak


SO! WE RESORT TO NAME CALLING?!

You know, you're right, Scotty. I haven't mentioned your hypocrisy yet. Thanks for bringing it up.

Also, I'm not trolling you. I'm trying to convince others to stop gracing you with any leeway to present your malignant scare tactics and lies. You don't deserve it. Just because someone is saying things you don't like doesn't mean they are trolling you. I'm being 100% serious and accurate when I say you show a distinct lack of intellectual maturity and have a negative effect on this forum. However, instead of whining at the mods until you're banned, I prefer the more democratic process of encouraging everyone to treat you as you should be treated. That way you know that you are a societal reject, and not some sort of deranged martyr. God knows we have enough of those.
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Lootifer on Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:19 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Lootifer wrote:The problem is (@ Aradhus, Neoteny, Haggis etc) he is very careful to not cross the line.

Its the equivilent of a policeman telling someone to not touch their car, and then that someone running around the car, with his hands positioned millimeters off the surface, screaming "NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING, NOT TOUCHING".


I was thinking more of me and my sister when we were about four. I would poke her, she'd complain to mom that I was touching her. Mom would then say "stop touching your sister" and so I would take my finger and put it as close as possible to her without touching her. It still pissed my sister off, but I was following directions!

That's the problem with "the line" in this instance...there's no rationality or consideration to it, most likely because they fear that will be a lot more effort (which is certainly a possibility, though I would disagree).

Yeah that's a way better example
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Lootifer on Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:29 pm

john9blue wrote:i thought it was: first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win

but the liberals here have a different method: first they fight you, then you win, then they realize that they've lost and pretend to laugh while running away, THEN they put you on ignore

You are seriously supporting ps's arguments and style of communication?

Ill happily call some of what Juan bottom posts retarded even though we're on the same side. You don't feel the same way when you see phatscotty off rolling his usual intellectual dishonesty?

And if you are looking for an example Scott it's related to those questions I asked earlier; you hide your conservatism - intentionally or thru genuine lack of intelligence - behind a wall of freedom/liberty/libertarianism which just doesn't stack up. I just wish you be more honest and argue you point as a genuine conservative (which I can respect even if I don't agree) rather than all the bs freedom crap .
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Re: shoulda hadda gun?

Postby Woodruff on Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:39 pm

Lootifer wrote:
john9blue wrote:i thought it was: first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win

but the liberals here have a different method: first they fight you, then you win, then they realize that they've lost and pretend to laugh while running away, THEN they put you on ignore

You are seriously supporting ps's arguments and style of communication?

Ill happily call some of what Juan bottom posts retarded even though we're on the same side. You don't feel the same way when you see phatscotty off rolling his usual intellectual dishonesty?

And if you are looking for an example Scott it's related to those questions I asked earlier; you hide you conservatism - intentionally or thru genuine lack of intelligence - behind a wall of freedom/liberty/libertarianism which just doesn't stack up. I just wish you be more honest and argue you point as a genuine conservative (which I can respect even if I don't agree) rather than all the bs freedom crap .


How dare you. Mr. Moderate would never consistently hold a position that was not independent in thought and virtue.

As for Phatscotty, I am starting to believe he is actually Michelle Bachmann.
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