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[Juan_Bottom]

The American Taliban.

[aad0906]

I don't know but they had some pretty damn good presidents in the past. Teddy Roosevelt was a strong supporter of segregation of state and religion, Eisenhower who greatly expanded social security and built the Interstate network and last but not least Lincoln.

[bedub1]

I don't know but they had some pretty damn good presidents in the past. Teddy Roosevelt was a strong supporter of segregation of state and religion, Eisenhower who greatly expanded social security and built the Interstate network and last but not least Lincoln.

Sounds like it USED to be a great party. But what is it now?

[Frigidus]

A miserable pile of tax cuts.

[Phatscotty]

What is it? Is it?

[thegreekdog]

Is it faith no more or epic? I choose the former.

[BigBallinStalin]

A miserable pile of tax cuts.

What percentage of Democrats voted against the 2004-ish tax cuts?

[patrickaa317]

Republicans are socialist-lights. They'll get us to the same socialist result as the democrats but just a couple terms later. [/thread]

[Juan_Bottom]

I don't know but they had some pretty damn good presidents in the past. Teddy Roosevelt was a strong supporter of segregation of state and religion, Eisenhower who greatly expanded social security and built the Interstate network and last but not least Lincoln.

Sounds like it USED to be a great party. But what is it now?

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25838

They used to be the Liberal party, but then the party members switched in the 1960s over the issue of ending Jim Crow.

[Army of GOD]

again with the fucking love of partisanship.

when will any of you morons realize political party means as much as the turd I just dropped ever so gracefully from my balloon knot?

[Phatscotty]

The answer to this very serious question can be represented best in this short 8 minute video clip

::lights dim::

[Juan_Bottom]

again with the fucking love of partisanship.

when will any of you morons realize political party means as much as the turd I just dropped ever so gracefully from my balloon knot?

You missed the point. When you look back at American History, every great idea or change came from Liberals. Conservatism means never change. You're always going to identify with one group better than the other.
Just because you don't care about politics or don't know anything about politics doesn't mean that it's all the same. Republicans and Democrats are not the same party. And there are sharp differences between Repubs and Dems on the national level. And there's a world of difference between our commentators.

[BigBallinStalin]

again with the fucking love of partisanship.

when will any of you morons realize political party means as much as the turd I just dropped ever so gracefully from my balloon knot?

If a person is told since birth that the bowels from your balloon knot smell good, and if that person constantly reinforces his opinion of its superior smell (via confirmation bias, etc.), then should we be surprised at such an person's acquired taste for balloon bowels?

If we're not surprised yet remain indignant, then how do we convince such a person that the balloon bowels smell terrible and should not be consumed?

[Phatscotty]

again with the fucking love of partisanship.

when will any of you morons realize political party means as much as the turd I just dropped ever so gracefully from my balloon knot?

You missed the point. When you look back at American History, every great idea or change came from Liberals. Conservatism means never change.

and how does that square with your BS argument about how Republicans "switched" in the 1960's?

[Juan_Bottom]

But they voted 31 times to repeal Obamacare.

[Phatscotty]

They blocked everything Obama tried to screw up. That's exactly what America sent them to Washington to do in 2010.

Just because something is called "the jobs bill" does not mean its about jobs or make it a good bill or mean it will work, or mean that you can criticize someone for blocking it.

[BigBallinStalin]

The answer to this very serious question can be represented best in this short 8 minute video clip

::lights dim::

Haha, that was entertaining.

Some quibbles come to mind, but that video represents the Ideal Republican Party. Through the US political system, I still see similar outcomes from both Democrats and Republicans on the role of government and its discretion over the economic-decision making of the citizens.

It does remind me of the backflips socialism and its adherent have gone through in order to continually remove themselves from the failed socialist experiments. It may not be possible, but I wonder how many socialists--including those of the non-state/somehow minimal-state type--viewed the Soviet Union and fascists in a positive light before the years leading up to WW2.


EDITS: In Intellectuals and Society by Thomas Sowell, he has some great and embarrassing quotes by such people during the 1930s. I'd recommend you read it. And, it reads very easily too!

[Night Strike]

again with the fucking love of partisanship.

when will any of you morons realize political party means as much as the turd I just dropped ever so gracefully from my balloon knot?

You missed the point. When you look back at American History, every great idea or change came from Liberals. Conservatism means never change. You're always going to identify with one group better than the other.

You're assuming "change" is always good and should always be desired.

In today's political reality, I would contend that the only change being proposed is from within the Republican party via Tea Party conservatives as they're the only ones calling for a change in real fiscal policies and deficit spending.

[tzor]

Might as well throw this out to make someone happy. A Letter from Morton Blackwell to RNC Delegates

If the Rules Committee Report were to pass without adoption of the Minority Reports, it would amount to a power grab by Washington, D.C. party insiders and consultants designed to silence the voice of state party activists and Republican grassroots by:

*** Handing national party officials the power to change national party rules adopted by state and grassroots leaders at the Republican National Convention. For generations, the prohibition of manipulated changes in the national Rules of the Republican Party between national conventions has served as one of the crown jewels of our party. It’s a power grab which opens the door to many future power grabs.

*** Stripping state parties in all states with binding primaries of the power of choosing who will represent their states as national delegates and alternate delegates.

This outrageous change would empower presidential campaigns to disapprove and remove delegates and alternate delegates selected by rules adopted by state Republican parties. Rather than grassroots activists who won delegate and alternate delegate slots by following state party rules, a large majority of positions would be handed to top donors of the winning campaign.

*** Gutting the great and successful reform adopted in the current election cycle to stop the dangerous trend to front-load the selection of national convention delegates. Our party would move again toward a national primary which would deny grassroots Republicans the opportunity to vet presidential candidates in a nomination contest of reasonable length. This reform must not be abandoned.

[Juan_Bottom]

Does anyone else think it's funny that the RNC is being held in a Hurricane-prone area during Hurricane season?
YOU CANT TRUST PEOPLE LIKE THIS TO PLAN FOR AMERICA.

[Night Strike]

Does anyone else think it's funny that the RNC is being held in a Hurricane-prone area during Hurricane season?
YOU CANT TRUST PEOPLE LIKE THIS TO PLAN FOR AMERICA.

Because Charlotte, North Carolina is never hit by hurricanes?

[john9blue]

A miserable pile of tax cuts.

the thread ended after this post.

[patrickaa317]

Does anyone else think it's funny that the RNC is being held in a Hurricane-prone area during Hurricane season?
YOU CANT TRUST PEOPLE LIKE THIS TO PLAN FOR AMERICA.

Note to everyone:

DO NOT ELECT Reince Priebus or Sharon Day to run this country!

[tzor]

Does anyone else think it's funny that the RNC is being held in a Hurricane-prone area during Hurricane season?

You realize that this is basically the entire southern coast and east coasts. The North East is really due for a major one to make landfall there.

That leaves the tornado belt, the earthquake belt and I suppose Chicago, the corruption belt.

And if you noticed, the hurricane missed the convention. That is also the way of hurricanes. They are strange and unpredictable, sort of like Biden.