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... VOTE WHITE, GET IT RIGHT.

... Is that offensive? Seems so to me...

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/convention ... 50114.html
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HOW ABOUT WE CREATE SOME EQUALLY STUPID SLOGANS?!


... VOTE BLACK, CATCH SOME FLAK!

... VOTE RED, YOU BE DEAD!

... VOTE WHITE, CUZ IT'S TIGHT!

... VOTE GREEN, DON'T BE MEAN!

... VOTE LIBERTARIAN, mshe gldje nhhh ARYAN!

... VOTE CARL SAGAN, HE DON'T BE HATIN'

... VOTE DARK KNIGHT, BATMAN SUCKS!

... VOTE ORANGE, ERM... HMM...

... VOTE PINK, RINKY-DINK

...
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Nobunaga wrote:... VOTE WHITE, GET IT RIGHT.

... Is that offensive? Seems so to me...

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/convention ... 50114.html
Its a play on words. I assume its a joke and in no way a serious policy/ideal statement on the part of the badge wearer.

Yes the joke can only be used one way, but thats only because of historical injustice data points (the joke would be in bad taste if, for example, there was a historical data point where the local power base was made up of black people, most of whom thought white people were an inferior race).

Cant we focus on the policy rather than stupid political/optical crap like this?

If you want to discuss the irrationality of people voting for Obama because he is black can you please use a less Phattist starting point and source material?
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Nobunaga wrote:... VOTE WHITE, GET IT RIGHT.

... Is that offensive? Seems so to me...

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/convention ... 50114.html
I think it's a step over the line.

The button in your link also seems to me to be a bit too much.

The rhetoric does matter... It hurts our collective karma as a country. It needs to get toned down a few notches.
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... It is hypocritical.

... The pot calling the kettle... well, you know.
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Nobunaga wrote:... It is hypocritical.
Of course it is, but its also a light-hearted joke.

You taking issue with it is completely counter-productive to the point you are trying to make.

If you were truely taking the moral highground here you would be ignoring the retarded badge, and instead come up with some compelling evidence on how many people are voting for obama because of his skin colour and how stupid that is.

But why do that, that aint the 'merican way; the 'merican way is slinging mud and bias media analysis. Post some idiot wearing an idiot badge is much more productive than rational debate... :roll:
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This is the one issue he has during the presidential run-off. Wow.
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Vote RIGHT or there will be nothing LEFT
THE DEBATE IS OVER...
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Because the Romney/Ryan trickle-down budget plan is unbalanced and Ryan admits that he never checked the numbers.
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Juan_Bottom wrote:Because the Romney/Ryan trickle-down budget plan is unbalanced and Ryan admits that he never checked the numbers.

I'm still waiting for someone to give a legit reason to vote for Obama!

Not because he's a Democrat, black, can raise money, sing. Just something he did during his presidency that was GOOD.

+5 trillion debt
fired CEO of private company
Turned his back on Israel
Turned pro gay marriage just in time for re-election bid
Gas $4/ gal
unemployment out of control
government run health care
benefit increase for welfare while the middle class suffers


cause I can name a slew of reasons not to vote for him. :-s
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no, it isn't a f'ing joke. either the badge wearer is racist, or nobody is racist
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Phatscotty wrote:no, it isn't a f'ing joke. either the badge wearer is racist, or nobody is racist
Whoa!

You obviously personally know the badge wearer yeah?

Seriously why are you guys focusing on this? At least Jay is arguing policy.
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Lootifer wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:no, it isn't a f'ing joke. either the badge wearer is racist, or nobody is racist
Whoa!

You obviously personally know the badge wearer yeah?

Seriously why are you guys focusing on this? At least Jay is arguing policy.
... Lootifer, I cannot recall if you are among them, but let us assume you are not. Many is the liberal here who believes, truly believes that the Republican party and/or conservatives are all naught but a collection of racist white men. These same liberals seem to believe their candidate and their party are as pure as the driven snow, while thier candidate and party is spewing epithets at their rivals, labeling them Nazis and the like.

... The badge is racist, worn at the convention of all places. It speaks volumes of the hypocrisy the dems and (many of) the liberals spew every day.

... As for this being the extent of my opinion on the presidential race, as that guy with the whale icon has suggested, of course it is not. I found this badge sadly amusing and demonstrative, and thought I would share.

...
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(This is why you should always read the OP before posting)


The pin in that pic? Well, here's what I think about it. A person like that will ALWAYS vote Democrat. Even if the election was Hitler vs. Regan. Just as there are Republicans who will ALWAYS vote Republican (even after W. Bush's second term).


It's a sad reality that people put PARTY above everything else. When you start to put everything else before party, you tend to vote for neither party.
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jay_a2j wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:Because the Romney/Ryan trickle-down budget plan is unbalanced and Ryan admits that he never checked the numbers.

I'm still waiting for someone to give a legit reason to vote for Obama!
We did. You just didn't like them, so you arbitrarily declared them "not legit".
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Phatscotty wrote:no, it isn't a f'ing joke. either the badge wearer is racist, or nobody is racist
Aren't you the one always complaining about people playing the race card?
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Nobunaga wrote:
Lootifer wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:no, it isn't a f'ing joke. either the badge wearer is racist, or nobody is racist
Whoa!

You obviously personally know the badge wearer yeah?

Seriously why are you guys focusing on this? At least Jay is arguing policy.
... Lootifer, I cannot recall if you are among them, but let us assume you are not. Many is the liberal here who believes, truly believes that the Republican party and/or conservatives are all naught but a collection of racist white men. These same liberals seem to believe their candidate and their party are as pure as the driven snow, while thier candidate and party is spewing epithets at their rivals, labeling them Nazis and the like.
It seems painfully clear that you don't know a single liberal on this site. So, given that...exactly what are you referring to when you say "here"? Are you referring to your town or something?
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jay_a2j wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:Because the Romney/Ryan trickle-down budget plan is unbalanced and Ryan admits that he never checked the numbers.

I'm still waiting for someone to give a legit reason to vote for Obama!

Not because he's a Democrat, black, can raise money, sing. Just something he did during his presidency that was GOOD.

+5 trillion debt
fired CEO of private company
Turned his back on Israel
Turned pro gay marriage just in time for re-election bid
Gas $4/ gal
unemployment out of control
government run health care
benefit increase for welfare while the middle class suffers


cause I can name a slew of reasons not to vote for him. :-s
I can try to answer these.

Not sure what CEO you're talking about. Romney?

He didn't turn his back on Israel, he's just using American's influence to keep them from going to war with Iran. We can't afford to be sucked into a terrible war right now. You saw how much the last one costs, and this one will cost more in lives as well.

I don't have a problem with him not hating gay people - so that's for other people to decide for themselves. It's a social issue, and one that our military has only benefited from.

Part of the Automotive Industry's bail-out deal included another round of fuel-economy mandates. New cars must get 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025. There are other rules too, and the new rules will be bringing 1 million new jobs. It's pretty exciting.
Plus the fuel prices rose under Bush who secured the promise of Saudi Arabia not to raise the price of oil if America invaded Iraq. Then they did, just to f*ck us over. Bush threatened Hugo Chavez to get get him to sell us cheap crude, and Bush even tried to have him overthrown, but those attempts just made OPEC even more pissed off at us.
And you know that even after the BP disaster Obama tried to get more offshore drilling. And he doubled our use of renewable energy. It's not his fault that Oil is a limited resource. Oil is still making amazing profits and getting government welfare.

Unemployment is recovering.

Government mandated Healthcare is saving a sh*tload of money. I'm cool with it.

Which benefit increase? Obama did lower your taxes by 2K.
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Vote white because blacks are all homosexual communists
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Jay is the first person that I've seen stack up his list of reasons for not liking Obama BTW.

Everyone else just says "I've compared the candidates closely and I dislike Obama for a multitude of reasons that are secret."
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Juan_Bottom wrote:Jay is the first person that I've seen stack up his list of reasons for not liking Obama BTW.

Everyone else just says "I've compared the candidates closely and I dislike Obama for a multitude of reasons that are secret."
... 16 Trillion dollars of debt.

... 8%+ unemployment for years

... Rising insurance rates (26 year-olds are now "children" - that killed us where I work)

... Governing through decree (the "Czars" and the EPA)

... Continued funding through taxes of bio-fuels (require more energy to produce than they themselves produce)

... Class warfare as primary strategy - hate and jealousy based

... Disregard for law whenever it suits (GM Grab, the "mandate")

... More golf than any president before him, while the country disintegrates

... Complete lack of transparency

... Continued advancement and promotion of dependency

... Opposition to voter ID

... Promoter of "card-check"

... Race-baiter

... Seeming hatred of Israel

... Anti-profit, anti-wealth (with the exception of friends, donors and family)

... Hidden past

... No (useful) experience whatsoever

... Attended and participated in socialist/communist gatherings at university

... "I inherited this mess..."

...

... Those are just a few.
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That's a pretty poor list though, you have to admit. I can tie some of those more important ones to Romney, and some of the other one's have science on Obama's side. And by science, I mean the formula.
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Nobunaga wrote:... Rising insurance rates (26 year-olds are now "children" - that killed us where I work)
Something like this has been the case with military medical since I first joined. My son and daughter would have been eligible to be cared for by the military at no cost until they were 26 as long as they were attending a college/university. In fact, ObamaCare looks very similar to the military's medical plan, which is OUTSTANDING, by the way.
Nobunaga wrote:... Class warfare as primary strategy - hate and jealousy based
The class warfare isn't coming from the liberals these days.
Nobunaga wrote:... Seeming hatred of Israel
Because he doesn't support them unequivocably?
Nobunaga wrote:... Hidden past
Other than his college transcripts, which part of his past is hidden?
Nobunaga wrote:... Attended and participated in socialist/communist gatherings at university
Seriously? This is a big deal? I've always been under the impression that this is a pretty normal "college thing".
Nobunaga wrote:... "I inherited this mess..."
He largely did.
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Juan_Bottom wrote:That's a pretty poor list though, you have to admit. I can tie some of those more important ones to Romney, and some of the other one's have science on Obama's side. And by science, I mean the formula.
... Well, the bio-fuels issue is the only I see there with a relation to science. Show me I'm wrong - that would make me feel better about it, seriously. farmers around here quit growing food a long time ago... more money in growing fuel. If it's sound, as gainful energy production, I would certainly support it... but I have read it is not.

... Tie a few to Romney for me. I don't really know the guy. My man left the race a long time ago.

...
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Nobunaga wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:That's a pretty poor list though, you have to admit. I can tie some of those more important ones to Romney, and some of the other one's have science on Obama's side. And by science, I mean the formula.
... Well, the bio-fuels issue is the only I see there with a relation to science. Show me I'm wrong - that would make me feel better about it, seriously. farmers around here quit growing food a long time ago... more money in growing fuel. If it's sound, as gainful energy production, I would certainly support it... but I have read it is not.
As I understand it (which is very limited, I will admit), it is not particularly supportable at this point.
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