Obama 2016: #1 Movie in America?

[Woodruff]

yet it is interesting to notice all the attention focused on Romney's and Ryan's college years....Especially when it is crystal clear, and we have been over it a thousand times, that Obama's college records don't matter. Interesting to note all the attention on Romney religious beliefs and Mormonism and Ryan's Catholicism and his opinions on Ayn Rand. , and yet nobody wanted to do a piece on Obama's Black Liberation Theology and Social Christianity, because Obama's religious beliefs and political philosphies do not matter either and thus do not deserve any attention or questioning.

Someone who is able to think critically would recognize that in Obama, we have three and a half years worth of proof in the Presidency to look at signifying exactly what Obama's policy positions as the President are, whereas in Romney/Ryan we don't have that time of proof in the Presidency to look at positions from. Someone who is able to think critically, that is.

So why didn't they look at those things in 2008 when he had barely any type of policy experience beyond voting present?

1. Are you sure they didn't, or is this another liberal conspiracy?
2. Is that really more important than the current situation to you?

[Night Strike]

yet it is interesting to notice all the attention focused on Romney's and Ryan's college years....Especially when it is crystal clear, and we have been over it a thousand times, that Obama's college records don't matter. Interesting to note all the attention on Romney religious beliefs and Mormonism and Ryan's Catholicism and his opinions on Ayn Rand. , and yet nobody wanted to do a piece on Obama's Black Liberation Theology and Social Christianity, because Obama's religious beliefs and political philosphies do not matter either and thus do not deserve any attention or questioning.

Someone who is able to think critically would recognize that in Obama, we have three and a half years worth of proof in the Presidency to look at signifying exactly what Obama's policy positions as the President are, whereas in Romney/Ryan we don't have that time of proof in the Presidency to look at positions from. Someone who is able to think critically, that is.

So why didn't they look at those things in 2008 when he had barely any type of policy experience beyond voting present?

1. Are you sure they didn't, or is this another liberal conspiracy?
2. Is that really more important than the current situation to you?

I am perfectly fine with looking into and discussing Obama's time as president because it's filled with failures and the wrong direction for the country. However, it IS interesting to note that Romney has an extensive history of leadership in both the private and public sectors, yet the news specials are about his religion. Obama did not have a history of leadership positions, yet no one did news specials on his religious beliefs either.

[BigBallinStalin]

yet it is interesting to notice all the attention focused on Romney's and Ryan's college years....Especially when it is crystal clear, and we have been over it a thousand times, that Obama's college records don't matter. Interesting to note all the attention on Romney religious beliefs and Mormonism and Ryan's Catholicism and his opinions on Ayn Rand. , and yet nobody wanted to do a piece on Obama's Black Liberation Theology and Social Christianity, because Obama's religious beliefs and political philosphies do not matter either and thus do not deserve any attention or questioning.

Someone who is able to think critically would recognize that in Obama, we have three and a half years worth of proof in the Presidency to look at signifying exactly what Obama's policy positions as the President are, whereas in Romney/Ryan we don't have that time of proof in the Presidency to look at positions from. Someone who is able to think critically, that is.

So why didn't they look at those things in 2008 when he had barely any type of policy experience beyond voting present?

That's a great point, and it wasn't Obama's strongest attribute, so his skin color and idealistic slogans of CHANGE! were effective enough to override any concern of his inexperience and largely neutral voting record.

Of course, Vanilla Romney doesn't have those going for him... It seems that the Republicans chose a terrible candidate. Maybe it was the best that could be offered?

[PLAYER57832]

I am perfectly fine with looking into and discussing Obama's time as president because it's filled with failures and the wrong direction for the country. However, it IS interesting to note that Romney has an extensive history of leadership in both the private and public sectors, yet the news specials are about his religion. Obama did not have a history of leadership positions, yet no one did news specials on his religious beliefs either.

A list of Obama's "failures"

Passed the healthcare reform act (note that the true universal and single payor alternatives were eliminated early on to have a hope of Republican support... but hey, let's call that willingness to compromise to get stuff done a "failure", too)

Sheparded in the Stimulus, which forestalled further decline and is now spurring on growth, albiet slow.

Supports alternative energy, albiet only a pittance

Essentially ended the war in Iraq, is moving toward ending the one in Afghanistan (not that I like all he has done there by any means)

Moved from "don't ask/don't tell" to allowing homosexuals to serve openly.

Began reform of "No child left behind" (though I wish he would do a great deal more!)

There are plenty of things I dislike about Obama (drones, the Patriot act alive and well, too much support of big business interests, etc.). However, he is like a broken finger, while Romney would put us in the hospital

[Night Strike]

Passed the healthcare reform act (note that the true universal and single payor alternatives were eliminated early on to have a hope of Republican support... but hey, let's call that willingness to compromise to get stuff done a "failure", too)

Massive governmental spending that has completely stifled economic growth and has allowed the government to tax us into taking whatever action the government deems necessary.

Sheparded in the Stimulus, which forestalled further decline and is now spurring on growth, albiet slow.

Failed by their own measures, added $1 trillion to the deficit, and all its funding/provisions as written have already ended (meaning it can't continue to spur non-growth).

Supports alternative energy, albiet only a pittance

Invests taxpayer dollars in failing companies that then go bankrupt. Sends taxpayer money to support oil drilling in other countries while blocking access to new drilling on US public land. The private sector has already dropped CO2 power plant emissions to their lowest levels in 20 years by providing cleaner, cheaper alternatives.

Essentially ended the war in Iraq, is moving toward ending the one in Afghanistan (not that I like all he has done there by any means)

Carried out the withdrawal from Iraq as agreed to under the Bush administration.

Began reform of "No child left behind" (though I wish he would do a great deal more!)

Through unconstitutional executive orders/waivers and not legislatively.


Any more "successes"? You had one, but it was purely political, not successful.

[BigBallinStalin]

I am perfectly fine with looking into and discussing Obama's time as president because it's filled with failures and the wrong direction for the country. However, it IS interesting to note that Romney has an extensive history of leadership in both the private and public sectors, yet the news specials are about his religion. Obama did not have a history of leadership positions, yet no one did news specials on his religious beliefs either.

A list of Obama's "failures"

Passed the healthcare reform act (note that the true universal and single payor alternatives were eliminated early on to have a hope of Republican support... but hey, let's call that willingness to compromise to get stuff done a "failure", too)

Sheparded in the Stimulus, which forestalled further decline and is now spurring on growth, albiet slow.

Supports alternative energy, albiet only a pittance

Essentially ended the war in Iraq, is moving toward ending the one in Afghanistan (not that I like all he has done there by any means)

Moved from "don't ask/don't tell" to allowing homosexuals to serve openly.

Began reform of "No child left behind" (though I wish he would do a great deal more!)

There are plenty of things I dislike about Obama (drones, the Patriot act alive and well, too much support of big business interests, etc.). However, he is like a broken finger, while Romney would put us in the hospital

A more accurate metaphor would depict each president as rushing us to the emergency room down a 10,000 yard corridor.

[Woodruff]

I am perfectly fine with looking into and discussing Obama's time as president because it's filled with failures and the wrong direction for the country. However, it IS interesting to note that Romney has an extensive history of leadership in both the private and public sectors, yet the news specials are about his religion. Obama did not have a history of leadership positions, yet no one did news specials on his religious beliefs either.

A list of Obama's "failures"

Passed the healthcare reform act (note that the true universal and single payor alternatives were eliminated early on to have a hope of Republican support... but hey, let's call that willingness to compromise to get stuff done a "failure", too)

Sheparded in the Stimulus, which forestalled further decline and is now spurring on growth, albiet slow.

Supports alternative energy, albiet only a pittance

Essentially ended the war in Iraq, is moving toward ending the one in Afghanistan (not that I like all he has done there by any means)

Moved from "don't ask/don't tell" to allowing homosexuals to serve openly.

Began reform of "No child left behind" (though I wish he would do a great deal more!)

There are plenty of things I dislike about Obama (drones, the Patriot act alive and well, too much support of big business interests, etc.). However, he is like a broken finger, while Romney would put us in the hospital

A more accurate metaphor would depict each president as rushing us to the emergency room down a 10,000 yard corridor.

Naw, that implies they're actually trying to get us in the general direction of help.

[BigBallinStalin]

Haha, good point.

[thegreekdog]

yet it is interesting to notice all the attention focused on Romney's and Ryan's college years....Especially when it is crystal clear, and we have been over it a thousand times, that Obama's college records don't matter. Interesting to note all the attention on Romney religious beliefs and Mormonism and Ryan's Catholicism and his opinions on Ayn Rand. , and yet nobody wanted to do a piece on Obama's Black Liberation Theology and Social Christianity, because Obama's religious beliefs and political philosphies do not matter either and thus do not deserve any attention or questioning.

Someone who is able to think critically would recognize that in Obama, we have three and a half years worth of proof in the Presidency to look at signifying exactly what Obama's policy positions as the President are, whereas in Romney/Ryan we don't have that time of proof in the Presidency to look at positions from. Someone who is able to think critically, that is.

So why didn't they look at those things in 2008 when he had barely any type of policy experience beyond voting present?

That's a great point, and it wasn't Obama's strongest attribute, so his skin color and idealistic slogans of CHANGE! were effective enough to override any concern of his inexperience and largely neutral voting record.

Of course, Vanilla Romney doesn't have those going for him... It seems that the Republicans chose a terrible candidate. Maybe it was the best that could be offered?

Let's look at this on a macro level.

Why was Obama successful in 2008 with the moderates? He promised a change from President Bush, who was regarded by most moderates as a disaster. I think Obama won because he was different than Bush and his promised policies would be different than Bush. The moderate voter was not in favor of four more years of Bush and the message was framed successfully by the Obama campaign.

If Romney is successful in 2012 with moderates, how will he be successful? He will ask the question "are you better off now than 4 years ago?" If the moderates answer with a "no" then Romney is elected.

I really do think the election in 2008 and 2012 boiled/boils down to those things (sadly).

[BigBallinStalin]

If it does, then that explains why Obama extended unemployment "insurance" for roughly 3 years.

[Phatscotty]

The first 2 minutes of Atlas Shrugged movie, set in 2016.

Look familiar?

[CreepersWiener]

HA! I just went to see Resident Evil...Obama was playing in the next Cinema...I walked in and said, "America is DOOMED!" I almost got beat up! What a bunch of violent rednecks that are going to this movie!

PROTEST THIS MOVIE! PROTEST IT NOW!

[Phatscotty]

See what Alex Jones says?

[Night Strike]

I finally got around to seeing this today, and it was decent. I knew most of what was discussed in the movie though, so the only really new information was the more indepth discussions on anti-colonialism and how Barack's image of his father was mostly of an idealized nature instead of the reality of who he really was.

[Phatscotty]