Just create a sub-forum for american politics [Poll added]

[maxfaraday]

Just do it.
There are a lot of people in this forum that don't give a shit about your catfight so stop all this spamming.
Please.

[thegreekdog]

Agreed! Create a subforum! As one of the catfighters, I would welcome a politics subforum. However, two things:

You do know that you can post whatever you want in here (within the rules) and it doesn't have to be politics? You do know that you don't have to read any threads, right?

[fadedpsychosis]

heck, it'd be less work to move the non-political threads into a sub forum...

so do I count as one of the cat-fighters? and if so, which side am I on? I tend to bash all politics fairly indiscriminately...

[thegreekdog]

heck, it'd be less work to move the non-political threads into a sub forum...

so do I count as one of the cat-fighters? and if so, which side am I on? I tend to bash all politics fairly indiscriminately...

I honestly don't care if there's a politics subforum. It doesn't affect my enjoyment either way.

For example, I tend to go into general discussion. I don't like the dice bitching threads. So I have two choices. I could complain about the dice bitching threads and call for a dice bitching subforum. Or I could not read the dice bitching threads and concentrate on other things. I choose to do the latter. I find the second choice much easier to do than the first choice. To take it a step further, if I wanted there to be a thread discussing a particular map (i.e. a non-dice-bitching thread), I could create such a thread.

So, my advice to people that want a politics subforum: Cool. But there are other ways to go about getting what you want out of your off-topics forum. Like not reading the politics threads. Like creating your own threads. You want to talk about the iphone 5? Go for it dude! It's all good!

[maxfaraday]

Agreed! Create a subforum! As one of the catfighters, I would welcome a politics subforum. However, two things:

You do know that you can post whatever you want in here (within the rules) and it doesn't have to be politics? You do know that you don't have to read any threads, right?

Problem is that sometimes EVERY topic on the first page is about american politics/economy/society/whatever....
And even if I read them sometimes, just out of curiousity, because I like to learn about other countries/cultures, it seems to me that most of them are pointless and sterile debates.

[thegreekdog]

Agreed! Create a subforum! As one of the catfighters, I would welcome a politics subforum. However, two things:

You do know that you can post whatever you want in here (within the rules) and it doesn't have to be politics? You do know that you don't have to read any threads, right?

Problem is that sometimes EVERY topic on the first page is about american politics/economy/society/whatever....
And even if I read them sometimes, just out of curiousity, because I like to learn about other countries/cultures, it seems to me that most of them are pointless and sterile debates.

You'd be right on all counts. Like I said, I'd welcome a politics subforum.

[Frigidus]

How about we change the board's name to "Politics and Sometimes Other Stuff" instead?

[pickleofdoom]

How about calling it "USA politics". Although it has a big effect on the rest of the world, i think the politics of the USA is quite idiosyncratic and specific to that cultural setting in its processes and the way that it is debated. So much so that I think it is sometimes more or less incomprehensible to the outsider why and how people come to have the attitudes that they do.

[BigBallinStalin]

I refuse to not read articles which I dislike; therefore, I motion to have all topics which I dislike to be shoved into various subforums.


I've got another idea. For all CC-related politics, like shuffling subforums and other CC policies, let's push them into a subforum called "CC Politics."


We need a more organized CC society of clear rules and regulations. The people demand it!

[Woodruff]

Just do it.
There are a lot of people in this forum that don't give a shit about your catfight so stop all this spamming.
Please.

Wahh much?

[nietzsche]

I think many of us have asked the same thing. We have always been ignored. It depends on the mods I guess, and you can see thegreekdog's opinion (who once was a discussion moderator): he doesn't see a problem with the way things are. The thing is Americans think they are the center of the world and they can't see it in another way.

Another mod, rds, he wouldn't want to get into the middle of it, and I guess Andy doesn't see an issue here either.

Like everything in CC, this issue could be easily solved ( I don't see why those who like to talk american politics would mind) but it won't be solved because .. who knows.


And whatever the topic is, Phatscotty will always find a way to make it about politics.

If there was a US politics subforum and a topic wasn't in it, it would tacitly imply that the OP doesn't want to turn it into politics.

[BigBallinStalin]

The thing is Americans think they are the center of the world and they can't see it in another way.

Feel free to discuss the recent capture of Fatso, a major Mexican drug trader of the Gulf region.

But maybe you don't care about politics in your own country?

Maybe if you don't supply something, then you shouldn't be complaining about the lack of demand?

[thegreekdog]

I think many of us have asked the same thing. We have always been ignored. It depends on the mods I guess, and you can see thegreekdog's opinion (who once was a discussion moderator): he doesn't see a problem with the way things are. The thing is Americans think they are the center of the world and they can't see it in another way.

Another mod, rds, he wouldn't want to get into the middle of it, and I guess Andy doesn't see an issue here either.

Like everything in CC, this issue could be easily solved ( I don't see why those who like to talk american politics would mind) but it won't be solved because .. who knows.


And whatever the topic is, Phatscotty will always find a way to make it about politics.

If there was a US politics subforum and a topic wasn't in it, it would tacitly imply that the OP doesn't want to turn it into politics.

Seriously dude? I would absolutely support a politics subforum. I just think bitching about it is stupid.

[nietzsche]

I think many of us have asked the same thing. We have always been ignored. It depends on the mods I guess, and you can see thegreekdog's opinion (who once was a discussion moderator): he doesn't see a problem with the way things are. The thing is Americans think they are the center of the world and they can't see it in another way.

Another mod, rds, he wouldn't want to get into the middle of it, and I guess Andy doesn't see an issue here either.

Like everything in CC, this issue could be easily solved ( I don't see why those who like to talk american politics would mind) but it won't be solved because .. who knows.


And whatever the topic is, Phatscotty will always find a way to make it about politics.

If there was a US politics subforum and a topic wasn't in it, it would tacitly imply that the OP doesn't want to turn it into politics.

Seriously dude? I would absolutely support a politics subforum. I just think bitching about it is stupid.

All I said is that you don't see nothing wrong with the way things are, as you pointed out in this same thread.

[thegreekdog]

I think many of us have asked the same thing. We have always been ignored. It depends on the mods I guess, and you can see thegreekdog's opinion (who once was a discussion moderator): he doesn't see a problem with the way things are. The thing is Americans think they are the center of the world and they can't see it in another way.

Another mod, rds, he wouldn't want to get into the middle of it, and I guess Andy doesn't see an issue here either.

Like everything in CC, this issue could be easily solved ( I don't see why those who like to talk american politics would mind) but it won't be solved because .. who knows.


And whatever the topic is, Phatscotty will always find a way to make it about politics.

If there was a US politics subforum and a topic wasn't in it, it would tacitly imply that the OP doesn't want to turn it into politics.

Seriously dude? I would absolutely support a politics subforum. I just think bitching about it is stupid.

All I said is that you don't see nothing wrong with the way things are, as you pointed out in this same thread.

That's correct, but it's not like I'm saying "don't start an American politics subthread." If 75% of people want a politics subthread, go for it.

[nietzsche]

The thing is Americans think they are the center of the world and they can't see it in another way.

Feel free to discuss the recent capture of Fatso, a major Mexican drug trader of the Gulf region.

But maybe you don't care about politics in your own country?

Maybe if you don't supply something, then you shouldn't be complaining about the lack of demand?

Nope, it's a well-known fact what I said.

[pickleofdoom]

I agree that it is well known stereotype but whether or not it is a fact i am not so sure. It is something that many people like to say. The reasons are as much psychological as related to any factual basis.

BBS I think that there are many things happening in Mexico that are nothing to do with drug bosses. Why would any discussion about Mexican politics have to focus on that?


On a different note, i have a bit of a problem with politics from any country.
Personally i see almost all corporate activity above the level of immediate family to be a projection of peoples individual inferiority complexes onto the wider world. That is why society is about collective domination and clannishness. This is why the metanarrative as "us" as innocent victims and "them" as evil villains always emerges again and again.
So I find these political debates to be more of a psychological case study in human behaviour than any possibility for making progress.

[nietzsche]

I agree that it is well known stereotype but whether or not it is a fact i am not so sure. It is something that many people like to say. The reasons are as much psychological as related to any factual basis.

BBS I think that there are many things happening in Mexico that are nothing to do with drug bosses. Why would any discussion about Mexican politics have to focus on that?


On a different note, i have a bit of a problem with politics from any country.
Personally i see almost all corporate activity above the level of immediate family to be a projection of peoples individual inferiority complexes onto the wider world. That is why society is about collective domination and clannishness. This is why the metanarrative as "us" as innocent victims and "them" as evil villains always emerges again and again.
So I find these political debates to be more of a psychological case study in human behaviour than any possibility for making progress.

I don't blame you guys, you are a big wealthy country, you have all you need right there, it's easy to forget there are other places.

[saxitoxin]

The thing is Americans think they are the center of the world and they can't see it in another way.

Feel free to discuss the recent capture of Fatso, a major Mexican drug trader of the Gulf region.

But maybe you don't care about politics in your own country?

But nietzsche doesn't have the option to discuss Fatso because he has no countrymen here to sustain such a discussion. Nietzsche only has a hypothetical freedom to discuss Mexican issues. Freedom doesn't exist where it can't be realized. Just like Natty can't discuss Santa Claus or whatever it is The Finn talks about because there's only one of him.

[stahrgazer]

The thing is Americans think they are the center of the world and they can't see it in another way.

No. Some do, some don't, just like anything.

The real thing is that you choose to think that.

It's simply a fact that there are a lot of Americans on the site; it's another fact that because "politics" is frequently on American news it's a natural discussion topic no matter the venue including on off-topic forums in gamesites.

So just because there are alot of us discussing the same topics we're seeing on our news does not mean we Americans think we're the center of the world. It just means we feel free to discuss the silly American game called "politics."

I don't support the idea because it's one more thing the mods would have to monitor and one more potential "gig" if someone disobeyed and accidently - or on purpose - posted an "american politics" thread outside the subforum.

Besides, what would make Americans think they're the center of the world more... being part of any wild thing discussion, or having OUR VERY OWN SUBFORUM

[Phatscotty]

Where the Wild Things are is the underground of the revolution!

[Funkyterrance]

The thing is Americans think they are the center of the world and they can't see it in another way.

Feel free to discuss the recent capture of Fatso, a major Mexican drug trader of the Gulf region.

But maybe you don't care about politics in your own country?

But nietzsche doesn't have the option to discuss Fatso because he has no countrymen here to sustain such a discussion. Nietzsche only has a hypothetical freedom to discuss Mexican issues. Freedom doesn't exist where it can't be realized. Just like Natty can't discuss Santa Claus or whatever it is The Finn talks about because there's only one of him.

I'm sorry but the above statement is bullshit and offensive. Discussing politics and Santa Claus are worlds apart. If an Australian Aborigine were to post on here about his political plight you can be damn sure I would read and respond to his/her thread. If he/she posted about the color of their dingo I don't think I would give two shits and give it a pass.
So Americans are passionate about their own politics. That's a bad thing? If nietzche were to want to start a thread about something with some substance, perhaps a topic regarding politics in his home country, I am sure if he explained the issue thoroughly he could get an enriching conversation started. Sadly, he would rather talk about his winning streak (and he calls Americans self absorbed).

[chang50]

I feel the frustration expressed by Neitzsche when he says Americans,by which he means USA,think they are the centre of the world.Personally I reckon its so deeply imbued in the collective consciousness of the country that it never even occurs to most of them,so I can't ascribe any malice here,just fatuousness.How often do we see a topic talking about THE constitution or THE dollar or THE economy,as if nowhere else has these things.Can you imagine an Australian for example talking about their domestic affairs on an international forum without specifying the Aussie dollar,or the Aussie economy?No doubt I will get loads of flak here but what the hell..

[Funkyterrance]

I feel the frustration expressed by Neitzsche when he says Americans,by which he means USA,think they are the centre of the world.Personally I reckon its so deeply imbued in the collective consciousness of the country that it never even occurs to most of them,so I can't ascribe any malice here,just fatuousness.How often do we see a topic talking about THE constitution or THE dollar or THE economy,as if nowhere else has these things.Can you imagine an Australian for example talking about their domestic affairs on an international forum without specifying the Aussie dollar,or the Aussie economy?No doubt I will get loads of flak here but what the hell..

Believe it or not I actually research the aspects of threads that I don't understand to get at least a basic understanding. Does that surprise you, me being an American? I'm actually a bit taken aback by the broad stereotypes you guys evidently subscribe to. What other prejudices are you harboring, I'm curious? Are we all fat and lazy too?
Loads of flak? Oh please.

[chang50]

I feel the frustration expressed by Neitzsche when he says Americans,by which he means USA,think they are the centre of the world.Personally I reckon its so deeply imbued in the collective consciousness of the country that it never even occurs to most of them,so I can't ascribe any malice here,just fatuousness.How often do we see a topic talking about THE constitution or THE dollar or THE economy,as if nowhere else has these things.Can you imagine an Australian for example talking about their domestic affairs on an international forum without specifying the Aussie dollar,or the Aussie economy?No doubt I will get loads of flak here but what the hell..

Believe it or not I actually research the aspects of threads that I don't understand to get at least a basic understanding. Does that surprise you, me being an American? I'm actually a bit taken aback by the broad stereotypes you guys evidently subscribe to. What other prejudices are you harboring, I'm curious? Are we all fat and lazy too?
Loads of flak? Oh please.

Your response bears no relation to what I posted,your misunderstanding of my point just further emphasises it...btw nothing I said was directed at individuals,hence 'collective consciousness'.It is sometimes called the 'biggest dog on the block mentality'.In my experience very few of your compatriots recognize it..