I'm looking for a laptop

[nietzsche]

What do you guys think of this one?

Sager NP130 -- 1250 dls

Spoiler

Sager NP9130 - Gaming Laptop (Clevo P151EM1)
- 12 DAYS of CHRISTMAS Giveaway – Automatically registered with any purchase! Make sure to ‘Like’ XOTIC PC on Facebook to complete your contest entry!!!
- FREE!! Continental (U.S. Lower 48 - UPS Ground Only) Ground Shipping on ALL Sager Laptops (Enter Coupon Code: "SAGERFREESHIP" during order process)
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen (SKU - S1R324)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3630QM (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU - S2N224)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 670M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology (SKU - S3N501)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- FREE - 16GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4T824P)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- 128GB Crucial M4 mSATA SSD - Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: )
- FREE - 1,000GB [1TB] 5400RPM [Serial-ATA II 3GB/s] (SKU - S5T353)
- Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included) (SKU - S7R455)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- FREE - Sager - Intel® Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - S8T111)
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Thanks, I will not be upgrading to Windows 8 Professional [Directly through Microsoft]
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- Standard Production Time
- No Xotic PC Gear

Doesn't look too bad. You should wait until Friday though...might be able to get one for a steal.

I could lose the regular hard drive and have only a Crucial 128gb SATA III, that would cost me 65 dls less.. but I think the mSATA Crucial is better.

[Symmetry]

Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

[nietzsche]

Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

[Symmetry]

Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

Buy a mac.

[nietzsche]

Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

Buy a mac.

I never said I was gay.

[Symmetry]

Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

Buy a mac.

I never said I was gay.

It was implied.

[nietzsche]

Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

Buy a mac.

I never said I was gay.

It was implied.

I'm not apologizing to you.

[Symmetry]

Nietzsche, I was under the general impression that you were an IT specialist. Why are you looking for computer advice here?

I have a degree on Software Engineering, but do not work as one. I worked only 1 year on the field, as I was disappointed at the level of responsibilities compared to the pay. People doing easier jobs were doing the same or more money than I.

Computer hardware improves drastically every 6 months, it's impossible to keep up unless you are in the field, and even if you are in the field but you are not buying or working with the latest every day you need to read quite a bit before deciding.

I could do without asking here, there's a lot of reviews on technologies and complete systems on the web, and even on where to find the best prices, but I enjoy the talk here. It's like women talking about those shoes they want to buy.

Buy a mac.

I never said I was gay.

It was implied.

I'm not apologizing to you.

Are you telling me that you'll never have to say you're sorry?

[Army of GOD]

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[nietzsche]

FYI I've got a ProBook 6560b from work. It's got 8gb ram and a i7-2620M. The CPU scores a 7.2 in the WEI, and the RAM is a 7.5. I put an Intel 330 180gb SSD in, and it scores an 8.1. An SSD can make pretty much any computer between twice as fast, and 10 times as fast.

but mSATA or SATA III ? That's my doubt right now.

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[zimmah]

Laptops are obsolete. Get a tablet.

I have a laptop. Every time I want to use it, I have to take it out of its case, dig out the DC rectifier from under the seat, plug it in, plug the AC adapter into the DC rectifier (funny how in order to get 9V DC I first have to convert 12V DC to 120V AC and then convert it back almost to the form it started in) wait 10 minutes for the thing to boot up, plug in the cellular adapter, wait another 10 minutes for signal acquisition, and then finally I'm online.

People with tablets turn them on and they're online. I'm so fucking jealous.

I have both and i somewhat agree with your point, for quick notes and quickly looking up things (digital school books, internet, etc.) i usually just take my ipad because it's much quicker.

However, when i really need to work on more advanced documents like reports or excel sheets, than i prefer using my laptop for obvious reasons.

On an average day at school I use my laptop maybe for about 20 minutes a day (probably 3 or 4 days of the week i don't use it at all, but when i do i use it for an hour or 2). But i spent like at least 5 hours on ipad. In the train i never even bother taking my laptop out of it's case.

So i'd not say laptops are completely replaced by tablets, but tablets surely take over many of the tasks a laptop used to fulfill.

[InkL0sed]

I don't get it.

[nietzsche]

I'm fucking ready. I will buy this laptop, unless I find a better deal until monday.


1,204 dls

Spoiler

Sager NP9130 - Gaming Laptop (Clevo P151EM1)
- 12 DAYS of CHRISTMAS Giveaway – Automatically registered with any purchase! Make sure to ‘Like’ XOTIC PC on Facebook to complete your contest entry!!!
- No Black Friday / Cyber Monday Deal
- FREE!! Continental (U.S. Lower 48 - UPS Ground Only) Ground Shipping on ALL Sager Laptops (Enter Coupon Code: "SAGERFREESHIP" during order process)
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen (SKU - S1R324)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3630QM (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU - S2N224)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- nVidia GeForce GTX 670M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology (SKU - S3N501)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- FREE - 16GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4X822P)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- No mSATA SSD
- 128GB Crucial M4 Series Solid State Drive [SSD2 Serial-ATA III] (SKU - S5R061)
- Remove DVDRW Drive and Install Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy Only (SKU - S7R951)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- FREE - Sager - Intel® Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - S8T111)
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Thanks, I will not be upgrading to Windows 8 Professional [Directly through Microsoft]
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- Standard Production Time
- No Xotic PC Gear

[whitestazn88]

why no internal wireless?

[Viceroy63]

I don't get it.

Well I don't know much about computers and I could be wrong but the Linux appears to be a more powerful arsenal than the windows. The Linux is capable of firing more rounds per minute than windows. Hell, the Linux fires more rounds period and appears to have more of a recoil as well.

But the recoil is acceptable in a Linux computer because of the greater capacity for damage control that you can do. Surfing the internet with this puppy means that you wont miss getting [to] that all important website that you've heard so much about. You simply can't miss with a Linux.

While the advantages of carrying a concealed computer goes to windows, Linux will certainly clear the hall way for you at school and down the street as well or at those crowded malls. But all that extra ammunition used by the Linux computer means that your financial budget should allow you to use a Linux in the first place.

And finally, the Linux computer is a real killer for online chat. You know how some times everyone just gets on your case for one misspelled word? Well the Linux computer will shut them all up for good. And with plenty of rounds to spare you can chat all you want and make your point quite clear and indisputable.

I hope that clears it up for you. Hope I was helpful there. If not it's probably because all I have is a windows. Sorry.

[nietzsche]

why no internal wireless?

Well, they are updating the wireless card for free, this one is supposed to be a 30 dls value for free.

The upgrade to 16GB RAM is also free, and I missing the free upgrade from 500gb to 1TB because I'm choosing the SSD. I could get the SSD as a mSATA, and use the free upgrade to 1TB in the regular drive, but I was thinking that maybe is better to have the SSD as a normal 2.5 drive in case I want to use it in the future in another laptop.


Do you think the embeded wifi is better?

[nietzsche]

f*ck, I'm undecided.

The Inspiron 15R Special Edition is 913 in Amazon. (900 in DELL.com but I rather buy it from Amazon for their costumer service). I would only have to buy a the Crucial 128GB, which is on a good price in Amazon as well (106) and a caddy to make use of the normal hdd it comes with.

Inspiron15RSE

Retail Software - All WIN8
Inspiron 15R Notebook (Inspiron 7520)
Windows 8, 64-bit, English
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3632QM (6MB cache, up to 3.2Ghz)
8GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz
750GB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive
AMD Radeon™ HD 7730M 2GB
8X Tray Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
Stealth Black Anodized Aluminum
15.6" Full High Definition (1080p) LED Display
48 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Battery
Intel® Centrino® Wireless 2230, 2x2 bgn + Bluetooth
Waves MaxxAudio 4 + Skullcandy Speakers
Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet card
English Backlit Keyboard with Multi-touch Touchpad
Power cord, 125V, 3.2 Feet, US
Digital Delivery Enablement
SRV Software for 2230 WIFI Wireless Card
Shipping Material, Direct
Additional Software
Cyberlink Media Suite Essentials DVD
Wireless Display Application & Driver
PocketCloud Companion, Standard, Digital Delivery
No Adobe Reader Selected
English Documentation
PCmover Home – Free
A5TRBO1305_046 /BTS/C5

Since the laptop is below 1000, I can use an import service and pay little for shippment, which cannot do with the Sager because it's 1200.

To have the laptop in my doorstep, I would pay (Including import taxes)

1300 usd for the Inspiron 15R Special Edition and I would have an extra hdd of 750gb (70usd value) although I already have a 500gb hybrid hd unused.

1550 usd for the Sager NP9130 and I would have 16gb of ram instead of 8, a better video card (I'm not a gamer tho), better Wifi card

both have the same chipset, the Sager has better audio and fingerprint reader which I won't be using. The Sager comes without Windows license (not a big deal)

I have to decide today! Help me decide.

[Symmetry]

Buy a mac.

[nietzsche]

Buy a mac.

Not a good time to mess with me, I just had my coffee and have a credit card on my hand...

[Symmetry]

Buy a mac.

Not a good time to mess with me, I just had my coffee and have a credit card on my hand...

Oddly enough, and very truly, I'm sorry. That's not a good position to be in when making a major purchase decision.

[Symmetry]

Having said that, however, you should eat a good meal and then buy a mac.

[nietzsche]

Having said that, however, you should eat a good meal and then buy a mac.

Apologize to me.