Why Stiffer Gun Control/Bannings Are In Order

[Night Strike]

It's scary for our country and our freedoms that a woman who believes these things is STILL a senator and the first thing she'll do in the new Congress is push gun control legislation:
http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne-feinstein-says-prepare-to-turn-in-your-guns/

[Night Strike]

Back in November, the Russian news outlet Pravda (formerly the official press of the USSR), surprised everyone when it published a scathing opinion column labeling President Obama a “Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so.”

And they appear to have done it again, this time weighing on in the gun control debate currently gripping the United States.

Written by Stanislav Mishin, the opinion piece, titled “Americans, never give up your guns,” begins:

These days, there are few few things to admire about the socialist, bankrupt and culturally degenerating USA, but at least so far, one thing remains: the right to bare arms and use deadly force to defend one’s self and possessions.

Mishin has rocked the boat before, writing in 2009 about American capitalism being “gone with a whimper.” Like the current article, it was originally published on the author’s personal blog before being picked up by Pravda.

By and large, he uses Russian history as a warning for what could occur in a worst-case scenario:

One of the first things [the Soviets] did was to disarm the population. From that point, mass repression, mass arrests, mass deportations, mass murder, mass starvation were all a safe game for the powers that were. The worst they had to fear was a pitchfork in the guts or a knife in the back or the occasional hunting rifle. Not much [to worry about] for soldiers.

Mishin also reminds that retired military officers and other armed citizens were initially promised that if they stayed out of the way, they would be left alone. When they objected, many citizens were asked to “register their weapons” and were “promptly shot.”

The article continues to examine the continuing denial of the “basic right” to self defense roughly two decades after the fall of the Soviet Union:

While President Putin pushes through reforms, the local authorities, especially in our vast hinterland, do not feel they need to act like they work for the people. They do as they please, a tyrannical class who knows they have absolutely nothing to fear from a relatively unarmed population. This in turn breeds not respect but absolute contempt and often enough, criminal abuse.

For those of us fighting for our traditional rights, the US 2nd Amendment is a rare light in an ever darkening room. Governments will use the excuse of trying to protect the people from maniacs and crime, but in reality, it is the bureaucrats protecting their power and position. In all cases where guns are banned, gun crime continues and often increases. As for maniacs, be it nuts with cars (NYC, Chapel Hill NC), swords (Japan), knives (China) or home made bombs (everywhere), insane people strike…

The excuse that people will start shooting each other is also plain and silly. So it is our politicians saying that our society is full of incapable adolescents who can never be trusted? Then, please explain how we can trust them or the police, who themselves grew up and came from the same culture?

No it is about power and a total power over the people…Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology. [Emphasis added]

The surprising article concludes with one last warning to Americans: “…do not fall for the false promises and do not extinguish the light that is left to allow humanity a measure of self respect.”

Click here to read the entire article, which originally appeared on the author’s personal blog.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/russian-news-outlet-pravda-prints-surprising-opinion-column-warning-usa-never-give-up-your-guns/

[Phatscotty]

How is post-election Obama starting to look like?

Here is an interesting read I wanted to share

A gun store clerk told me recently that many young men come into his shop offering to sell their entire gun collections. They dump the weapons on the counter and announce, "I’m getting married and my fiancée says it’s either me or the guns."

The anti-gun ideology has burrowed its way into the tenderest corner of Americans’ hearts – the place where love resides between man and woman.

"There is nothing so good and lovely as when man and wife in their home dwell together in unity of mind and disposition," says Odysseus in Homer’s Odyssey. "A great vexation it is to their enemies and a feast of gladness to their friends."

America has vexed her foes and gladdened her friends for over 200 years. But today, the foundation of America’s strength – the family – has come under attack. An invisible wedge has sundered man from woman. Thus divided, we cannot defend our rights.

That wedge has a name. It is called Marxism.

Disarming the Middle Class

Left-wing strategists have long understood that the "bourgeois" classes oppose them. For that reason, the disarming of the "bourgeoisie" has been a longstanding project of the Left.

This goal was clearly expressed by the socialist writer H.G. Wells in his 1934 book Experiment in Autobiography. Wells believed that mankind was moving inexorably toward a global, socialist government that he called the "new world order." He believed passionately in this movement, but he knew that many would resist it.

Eventually, Wells predicted, "We shall find ourselves almost abruptly engaged in a new system of political issues in which the socialist world-state will be plainly and consciously lined up against the scattered vestigial sovereignties of the past."

To ensure the success of global socialism, Wells advised that all potential pockets of resistance be disarmed. "Life is conflict and the only way to universal peace is through the defeat and obliteration of every minor organization of force," he wrote. "Carrying weapons individually or in crowds, calls for vigorous suppression on the part of the community."

[warmonger1981]

by Woodruff on Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:58 pm

HapSmo19 wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:
Can anyone who says all guns should be banned complain about this?


Who the f*ck is this "anyone", because I don't see them very often and I don't believe I've seen them in this thread, other than perhaps the troll.

Seriously, the amount of bullshit misdirection on the part of the gun-loving contingent in this thread is ridiculous. It's like you guys know you have no leg to stand on, so you have to try to create situations that do not exist as a means of trying to support your bullshit.


The right to keep and bear arms seems like a leg to stand on.
The right to keep and bear arms is trying to ban all guns? Do you morons even think a little bit before you post? Good God, at least read the fucking post you're responding to, you illiterate buffoon.
Sorry if you took offence wood but the "anyone" statement was not directed towards you. So wipe the tears asshole. And if it starts with one gun it will be all guns banned in the future and to call me a buffoon is bullshit. Last post fucker

[HapSmo19]

I believe he was calling me a buffoon.
Funny, I just received a ban for calling people names(flaming). He should be getting his any second now....yep....any time now....

[chang50]

I believe he was calling me a buffoon.
Funny, I just received a ban for calling people names(flaming). He should be getting his any second now....yep....any time now....

If he was he was being uncommonly generous,every second post you indulge in either profanity or gratuituos insults.

[Phatscotty]

I believe he was calling me a buffoon.
Funny, I just received a ban for calling people names(flaming). He should be getting his any second now....yep....any time now....

If he was he was being uncommonly generous,every second post you indulge in either profanity or gratuituos insults.

I think you are thinking of Woodruff

[Woodruff]

It's scary for our country and our freedoms that a woman who believes these things is STILL a senator and the first thing she'll do in the new Congress is push gun control legislation:
http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne-feinstein-says-prepare-to-turn-in-your-guns/

Why is that scarier than Congressmen working against the rights of Muslims after 9/11? I don't seem to recall you having a problem with that.

[Woodruff]

by Woodruff on Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:58 pm

HapSmo19 wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
warmonger1981 wrote:
Can anyone who says all guns should be banned complain about this?


Who the f*ck is this "anyone", because I don't see them very often and I don't believe I've seen them in this thread, other than perhaps the troll.

Seriously, the amount of bullshit misdirection on the part of the gun-loving contingent in this thread is ridiculous. It's like you guys know you have no leg to stand on, so you have to try to create situations that do not exist as a means of trying to support your bullshit.


The right to keep and bear arms seems like a leg to stand on.
The right to keep and bear arms is trying to ban all guns? Do you morons even think a little bit before you post? Good God, at least read the fucking post you're responding to, you illiterate buffoon.
Sorry if you took offence wood but the "anyone" statement was not directed towards you. So wipe the tears asshole. And if it starts with one gun it will be all guns banned in the future and to call me a buffoon is bullshit. Last post fucker

I didn't even pretend that the "anyone" was directed toward me. That doesn't make it any less of a bullshit misdirection on the part of the gun-loving contingent in this thread.

[Phatscotty]

It's scary for our country and our freedoms that a woman who believes these things is STILL a senator and the first thing she'll do in the new Congress is push gun control legislation:
http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne-feinstein-says-prepare-to-turn-in-your-guns/

Why is that scarier than Congressmen working against the rights of Muslims after 9/11? I don't seem to recall you having a problem with that.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? You supposed to be able to draw a conclusion from that??? Does anything you ever say have to do with anything that is actually said?

[Iliad]

Phatscotty, how much does it annoy you that you can't edit the title of this thread?
On a scale of 1 to non-Mericans expressing their opinions without being tarred and feathered?

[Phatscotty]

Phatscotty, how much does it annoy you that you can't edit the title of this thread?
On a scale of 1 to non-Mericans expressing their opinions without being tarred and feathered?

Not at all. I made my own thread, of which the title has not been edited once.....

Repeal Gun Free School Zones!?

see how ya are?

[Woodruff]

It's scary for our country and our freedoms that a woman who believes these things is STILL a senator and the first thing she'll do in the new Congress is push gun control legislation:
http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne-feinstein-says-prepare-to-turn-in-your-guns/

Why is that scarier than Congressmen working against the rights of Muslims after 9/11? I don't seem to recall you having a problem with that.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? You supposed to be able to draw a conclusion from that??? Does anything you ever say have to do with anything that is actually said?

The conclusions have been drawn long ago regarding both yourself and Night Strike. The both of you just continue to take such pains to confirm them that it's as if you might actually think they were good conclusions.

[Phatscotty]

It's scary for our country and our freedoms that a woman who believes these things is STILL a senator and the first thing she'll do in the new Congress is push gun control legislation:
http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne-feinstein-says-prepare-to-turn-in-your-guns/

Why is that scarier than Congressmen working against the rights of Muslims after 9/11? I don't seem to recall you having a problem with that.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? You supposed to be able to draw a conclusion from that??? Does anything you ever say have to do with anything that is actually said?

The conclusions have been drawn long ago regarding both yourself and Night Strike. The both of you just continue to take such pains to confirm them that it's as if you might actually think they were good conclusions.

of course, you don't state any conclusion...

[Woodruff]

It's scary for our country and our freedoms that a woman who believes these things is STILL a senator and the first thing she'll do in the new Congress is push gun control legislation:
http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne-feinstein-says-prepare-to-turn-in-your-guns/

Why is that scarier than Congressmen working against the rights of Muslims after 9/11? I don't seem to recall you having a problem with that.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? You supposed to be able to draw a conclusion from that??? Does anything you ever say have to do with anything that is actually said?

The conclusions have been drawn long ago regarding both yourself and Night Strike. The both of you just continue to take such pains to confirm them that it's as if you might actually think they were good conclusions.

of course, you don't state any conclusion...

They've been stated many times. You just don't like them, so you pretend they don't exist.

[Phatscotty]

and I don't hang around and play childish guessing games. You continue to say absolutely nothing of value. Your posts are meaningless. This thread is not about Phatscotty, it's about gun control. You should try posting about it.

If you have something to say, then say it. Stop bein scared to speak your mind and making passive vague statements cloaked in slander and bully tactics

Conscience, Not Guns

From the moment Americans learned of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre last Friday, the entire left -- editorialists, columnists, broadcasters, politicians -- used the occasion to promote one idea: gun control.

For the left, the primary reason for just about all American gun murders is the availability of guns.

I have no interest in debating gun control here. I only wish to ask the left one question: We have a massive system of drug control laws. Yet, the left is the first to argue that the war on drugs has been a failure. And whether or not one deems it a failure, the war on drugs surely hasn't prevented tens of millions of Americans, including teenagers, from obtaining drugs illegally. Why, then, does the left believe that a war on guns would be any more effective than the war on drugs?

That question aside, what matters most here is the left's preoccupation with guns as the root of the murder problem in America.

It explains a great deal about the left's worldview. The moral values and the conscience of nations as well as individuals seem to play almost no role in the left's understanding of human behavior.

That is why the left wants all nations, including the United States, to destroy their nuclear weapons. The problem for the left is not the moral values nations hold, it is the weapons nations hold. American nuclear weapons were just as troubling to the left as Soviet nuclear weapons during the Cold War and just as troubling as Iran having nuclear weapons today. So, too, the problem of gun violence in America is not the moral values of gun owners, it is gun ownership.

And because leftist thinking dominates American society -- from elementary through graduate school and in virtually all the print and electronic news media -- there is one view that almost never gets a hearing: that the primary reason for gun violence in America is not gun ownership, but the lack of a functioning moral conscience.

Lack of conscience is the problem both for individuals and for nations. Among nations the problem is nuclear (and all other) weapons in the hands of bad regimes. And among Americans the problem is guns in the hands of bad people.

This is so obvious that one has to be propagandized his whole life by leftism not to immediately understand it. But leftism is the religion of the west, the most dynamic religion in the world for the last century. It is as hard to reject leftism in the west as it was to reject Christianity in Europe during the Middle Ages or Islam in the Arab world today.

Does one reader of this column -- including individuals on the left -- fear being massacred by a decent person? Of course not.

Then why isn't our emphasis on character development and the teaching of right and wrong?

Why is this never mentioned on the left? Why are guns, not the conscience, the root issue for the left?

We are lead to believe after almost every massacre that the murderer "snapped" or had mental problems. Why? Because it implies that the murderer was not morally responsible for what he did. We are told, for example, that Adam Lanza, who by all accounts was a brilliant student, suffered from a form of autism. Even if true, why is that important? Statistically, I would bet that those with autism commit far fewer violent crimes than the rest of population. Autistic people, like everyone else, can be taught the difference between right and wrong. My stepson is autistic, and is not capable of attending regular school (much less honors classes) or driving a car, things that Adam Lanza did fully normally. But my stepson is keenly aware of right and wrong, and believes that God punishes people who commit evil.

On some rare occasions mental illness may be the only possible explanation for evil. But when American schools emphasized character development, and when nearly all Americans believed that there is a God who forbids and punishes murder, such massacres rarely took place. When people "snapped" during the Great Depression some of them did kill ... themselves. Surely some European Jews who survived the Holocaust "snapped" after seeing their families murdered. Yet I know of no survivor of the Holocaust who massacred innocent Germans or Poles or Hungarians, or Frenchmen, let alone Americans. Why not?

Because until the contemporary period, religion and/or conscience development were ubiquitous.

Instead of teaching young Americans self-control, thanks to leftist influence, we now teach them self-esteem -- which has been worse than morally useless. It has been morally destructive. According to professor of psychology Roy Baumeister, one of the leading criminologists in America, few Americans have the high self-esteem that violent criminals have.

Want to know a major cause of criminal violence in America? Try leftism's denial of the importance of moral values among nations and individuals; its systematic destruction of character education; and its elimination of God as the source of moral law.

Not guns.

[Night Strike]

It's scary for our country and our freedoms that a woman who believes these things is STILL a senator and the first thing she'll do in the new Congress is push gun control legislation:
http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne-feinstein-says-prepare-to-turn-in-your-guns/

Why is that scarier than Congressmen working against the rights of Muslims after 9/11? I don't seem to recall you having a problem with that.

What are you talking about?

[HapSmo19]

I don't even think he knows anymore.

[Night Strike]

Rev. Al Sharpton told a radio caller that it could be time for knife legislation in addition to gun laws.

“In any civilized society you do not see massacres continue to happen, from Tucson to Aurora to Columbine to Virginia Tech to where we are now in Newtown to Chicago and you keep the same laws when clearly they’re not working,” the MSNBC host said on his radio show Friday.

“What happens when the criminal goes to knives, Al?” the caller asked.

“Then you deal with knives,” Sharpton replied. “The same thing as if you have a head cold and the same thing you do if you have a head cold and the cold is gone and you have a headache. Then you take headache medicine. The job of society is to deal with whatever problem confronts it.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/al-sharpton-next-up-knife-control/

[Phatscotty]

What did Marx have to say about gun-control?

WWMD?

[AAFitz]

What did Marx have to say about gun-control?

WWMD?

Always with the communist agenda, huh? Take your pinko commie views out of my country sir.

[Phatscotty]

What did Marx have to say about gun-control?

WWMD?

Always with the communist agenda, huh? Take your pinko commie views out of my country sir.

I'm just asking questions. You are playing defense too early, but I aint mad at ya

[Night Strike]

Senator Dianne Feinstein,

I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government’s right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime. You ma’am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.

I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.

I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.

I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.

We, the people, deserve better than you.

Respectfully Submitted,
Joshua Boston
Cpl, United States Marine Corps
2004-2012

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/01/01/no-maam-letter-from-u-s-marine-to-dianne-feinstein-goes-viral-12897

[chang50]

Senator Dianne Feinstein,

I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government’s right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime. You ma’am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.

I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.

I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.

I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.

We, the people, deserve better than you.

Respectfully Submitted,
Joshua Boston
Cpl, United States Marine Corps
2004-2012

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/01/01/no-maam-letter-from-u-s-marine-to-dianne-feinstein-goes-viral-12897

Does government have the right to know if you possess illegal drugs?

[Night Strike]

Senator Dianne Feinstein,

I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government’s right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime. You ma’am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.

I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.

I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.

I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.

We, the people, deserve better than you.

Respectfully Submitted,
Joshua Boston
Cpl, United States Marine Corps
2004-2012

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/01/01/no-maam-letter-from-u-s-marine-to-dianne-feinstein-goes-viral-12897

Does government have the right to know if you possess illegal drugs?

Does the government have the right to know everything you legally purchase?