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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby nietzsche on Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:55 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:You cant control the world with military. You control through finance. Debt is slavery. They need more people to take on more debt to keep economy rolling. Fractional banking helps a lot. I want loan you print money I fail to pay you get my property and resourses. Nice scam.


This is the heart of the matter, I missed this post yesterday but this is it.
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Postby 2dimes on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:29 pm

How are you going to control anything with money? The military guys will shoot you.
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Postby nietzsche on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:43 pm

2dimes wrote:How are you going to control anything with money? The military guys will shoot you.


Politicians control the government, government has a the monopoly in the use of force. Politicians are after the money, you give 'em 1 million and they won't mind you f*ck the country for 1 billion.
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Postby Phatscotty on Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:46 pm

2dimes wrote:How are you going to control anything with money? The military guys will shoot you.


the military people need to be paid with something, from someone...
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:28 pm

The human mind likes to find patterns and neat explanations. It's easy to blame all the ills of the world on some evil mastermind out there "pulling the strings".
I've seen no good reason to believe such a person or organization exists, everyone is just pulling or pushing the world in a certain direction based on their beliefs and desires. Some people have more pushing power than others, but there is no group that can single-handedly decide where the world is going. It's up to all of us.

More scary than "the mastermind" to me is the inertia of "the system". There was ultimately no evil mastermind in Brave New World, just a self perpetuating system that was nigh unstopable because everyone had too much invested in it to change now.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby nietzsche on Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:44 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:The human mind likes to find patterns and neat explanations. It's easy to blame all the ills of the world on some evil mastermind out there "pulling the strings".
I've seen no good reason to believe such a person or organization exists, everyone is just pulling or pushing the world in a certain direction based on their beliefs and desires. Some people have more pushing power than others, but there is no group that can single-handedly decide where the world is going. It's up to all of us.

More scary than "the mastermind" to me is the inertia of "the system". There was ultimately no evil mastermind in Brave New World, just a self perpetuating system that was nigh unstopable because everyone had too much invested in it to change now.



This is also and excellent perspective on the world, and it's rare that a person so young has reached this understanding, I believe, Haggis, you are around 22 years old?

It's impossible to believe that 1 person or one group however powerful would have as a goal to control the world, after all they only live once, if they dedicate their life to control the world they would miss so much in life. But nevertheless it's the truth a few control the lives of so many, you could say they think it isn't personal, just business.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:54 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:The human mind likes to find patterns and neat explanations. It's easy to blame all the ills of the world on some evil mastermind out there "pulling the strings".
I've seen no good reason to believe such a person or organization exists, everyone is just pulling or pushing the world in a certain direction based on their beliefs and desires. Some people have more pushing power than others, but there is no group that can single-handedly decide where the world is going. It's up to all of us.

More scary than "the mastermind" to me is the inertia of "the system". There was ultimately no evil mastermind in Brave New World, just a self perpetuating system that was nigh unstopable because everyone had too much invested in it to change now.

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby warmonger1981 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:01 pm

...and you don't even know it. Our Federal Government is a FOR PROFIT CORPORATION. The original Constitution "The Constitution for the united states of America", was written for the people. The rewritten altered version reads" THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" CHANGED when THE UNITED STATES Corporation was formed says that the Constitution is "of" the people NOT "for" the people like it used to be. Also the United States is written all in capital letters which refers to the corporation not the land mass.

What preceded the United States corporation was The Virgina Company of the British Crown formed in 1606 to colonize the country. King James I was the largest shareholder and he and his blood lines were entitled to 50% of all gold and silver mined here and 50% of raw materials and 5% of all profits realized here.

The British financed both sides of the Revolutionary War. The British actually own everything here.

We think we own our homes and land but if you read your deed you are nothing more than a "tenant" (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress, 1st Session).

A 1040 form is for "tribute paid to Britain" ( IRS Publication 6209).

When you agree to have a Social Security Number you surrender your sovereignty and agree to become franchisees of the UNITED STATES.

An "interesting" executive order we shouldn't be so happy about is: 12803 signed by the first Pres Bush that puts all public property or what we assume we have paid for with our tax dollars up for sale ie roads, bridges, schools, prisons even WATER... up for sale!

George Bush declared the war on terror not to protect Americans but to further the corporation of the UNITED STATES.

The United States operates under commercial law to overcome the checks and balances of common law. It is a total fraud. The Pope can even abolish any law in the United States.

Look it up:

All taxpayers have an Individual Master File which is in code. By using IRS Publication 6209, which is over 400 pages, there is a blocking series which shows the taxpayer the type of tax that is being paid. Most taxpayers fall under a 300-399 blocking series, which 6209 states is reserved, but by going to BMF 300-399 which is the Business Master File in 6209 prior to 1991, this was U.S.-U.K. Tax Claims, meaning taxpayers are considered a business and involved in commerce and are held liable for taxes via a treaty between the U.S. and the U.K., payable to the U.K. The form that is supposed to be used for this is form 8288, FIRPTA-Foreign Investment Real Property Tax Account. The 8288 form is in the Law Enforcement Manual of the IRS, chapter 3. The OMB’s-paper-Office of Management and Budget, in the Department of Treasury, List of Active Information collections, Approved Under Paperwork Reduction Act is where form 8288 is found under OMB number 1545-0902, which says U.S. with holding tax return for dispositions by fo
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:29 am

warmonger1981 wrote:...and you don't even know it. Our Federal Government is a FOR PROFIT CORPORATION. The original Constitution "The Constitution for the united states of America", was written for the people. The rewritten altered version reads" THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" CHANGED when THE UNITED STATES Corporation was formed says that the Constitution is "of" the people NOT "for" the people like it used to be. Also the United States is written all in capital letters which refers to the corporation not the land mass.

What preceded the United States corporation was The Virgina Company of the British Crown formed in 1606 to colonize the country. King James I was the largest shareholder and he and his blood lines were entitled to 50% of all gold and silver mined here and 50% of raw materials and 5% of all profits realized here.

The British financed both sides of the Revolutionary War. The British actually own everything here.

We think we own our homes and land but if you read your deed you are nothing more than a "tenant" (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress, 1st Session).

A 1040 form is for "tribute paid to Britain" ( IRS Publication 6209).

When you agree to have a Social Security Number you surrender your sovereignty and agree to become franchisees of the UNITED STATES.

An "interesting" executive order we shouldn't be so happy about is: 12803 signed by the first Pres Bush that puts all public property or what we assume we have paid for with our tax dollars up for sale ie roads, bridges, schools, prisons even WATER... up for sale!

George Bush declared the war on terror not to protect Americans but to further the corporation of the UNITED STATES.

The United States operates under commercial law to overcome the checks and balances of common law. It is a total fraud. The Pope can even abolish any law in the United States.

Look it up:

All taxpayers have an Individual Master File which is in code. By using IRS Publication 6209, which is over 400 pages, there is a blocking series which shows the taxpayer the type of tax that is being paid. Most taxpayers fall under a 300-399 blocking series, which 6209 states is reserved, but by going to BMF 300-399 which is the Business Master File in 6209 prior to 1991, this was U.S.-U.K. Tax Claims, meaning taxpayers are considered a business and involved in commerce and are held liable for taxes via a treaty between the U.S. and the U.K., payable to the U.K. The form that is supposed to be used for this is form 8288, FIRPTA-Foreign Investment Real Property Tax Account. The 8288 form is in the Law Enforcement Manual of the IRS, chapter 3. The OMB’s-paper-Office of Management and Budget, in the Department of Treasury, List of Active Information collections, Approved Under Paperwork Reduction Act is where form 8288 is found under OMB number 1545-0902, which says U.S. with holding tax return for dispositions by fo


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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:34 am

warmonger1981 wrote:...and you don't even know it. Our Federal Government is a FOR PROFIT CORPORATION. The original Constitution "The Constitution for the united states of America", was written for the people. The rewritten altered version reads" THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" CHANGED when THE UNITED STATES Corporation was formed says that the Constitution is "of" the people NOT "for" the people like it used to be. Also the United States is written all in capital letters which refers to the corporation not the land mass.

What preceded the United States corporation was The Virgina Company of the British Crown formed in 1606 to colonize the country. King James I was the largest shareholder and he and his blood lines were entitled to 50% of all gold and silver mined here and 50% of raw materials and 5% of all profits realized here.

The British financed both sides of the Revolutionary War. The British actually own everything here.

We think we own our homes and land but if you read your deed you are nothing more than a "tenant" (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress, 1st Session).

A 1040 form is for "tribute paid to Britain" ( IRS Publication 6209).

When you agree to have a Social Security Number you surrender your sovereignty and agree to become franchisees of the UNITED STATES.

An "interesting" executive order we shouldn't be so happy about is: 12803 signed by the first Pres Bush that puts all public property or what we assume we have paid for with our tax dollars up for sale ie roads, bridges, schools, prisons even WATER... up for sale!

George Bush declared the war on terror not to protect Americans but to further the corporation of the UNITED STATES.

The United States operates under commercial law to overcome the checks and balances of common law. It is a total fraud. The Pope can even abolish any law in the United States.

Look it up:

All taxpayers have an Individual Master File which is in code. By using IRS Publication 6209, which is over 400 pages, there is a blocking series which shows the taxpayer the type of tax that is being paid. Most taxpayers fall under a 300-399 blocking series, which 6209 states is reserved, but by going to BMF 300-399 which is the Business Master File in 6209 prior to 1991, this was U.S.-U.K. Tax Claims, meaning taxpayers are considered a business and involved in commerce and are held liable for taxes via a treaty between the U.S. and the U.K., payable to the U.K. The form that is supposed to be used for this is form 8288, FIRPTA-Foreign Investment Real Property Tax Account. The 8288 form is in the Law Enforcement Manual of the IRS, chapter 3. The OMB’s-paper-Office of Management and Budget, in the Department of Treasury, List of Active Information collections, Approved Under Paperwork Reduction Act is where form 8288 is found under OMB number 1545-0902, which says U.S. with holding tax return for dispositions by fo


the key was in the last sentence - fortunately We managed to terminate his connection in time ...

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:07 am

In the German version of that story, a secret provision in a treaty caused the entire nation of Germany to cease to exist in 1990. According to it, the map area labeled "Germany" is now actually run by a coalition of the Mayor of London, a group of American Freemasons and ... you know who.

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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby warmonger1981 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:15 am

When I get back in town i will post more crazy nonsense. Finish my last post.
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:21 pm

The US and New Zealand jointly developed a Bond-villain weapon "Tsunamai Bomb" designed to create diabolical tidal waves to smash the cities of their enemies like Tokyo and Sydney, new research has emerged.

The top secret operation, code-named "Project Seal", tested the doomsday device as a possible rival to the nuclear bomb. About 3,700 bombs were exploded during the tests, first in New Caledonia and later at Whangaparaoa Peninsula, near Auckland. The plans came to light during research by a New Zealand author and film-maker, Ray Waru, who examined military files buried in the national archives.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... coast.html


DID RESEARCH REALLY END???
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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby oss spy on Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:20 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:...and you don't even know it. Our Federal Government is a FOR PROFIT CORPORATION. The original Constitution "The Constitution for the united states of America", was written for the people. The rewritten altered version reads" THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" CHANGED when THE UNITED STATES Corporation was formed says that the Constitution is "of" the people NOT "for" the people like it used to be. Also the United States is written all in capital letters which refers to the corporation not the land mass.

What preceded the United States corporation was The Virgina Company of the British Crown formed in 1606 to colonize the country. King James I was the largest shareholder and he and his blood lines were entitled to 50% of all gold and silver mined here and 50% of raw materials and 5% of all profits realized here.

The British financed both sides of the Revolutionary War. The British actually own everything here.

We think we own our homes and land but if you read your deed you are nothing more than a "tenant" (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress, 1st Session).

A 1040 form is for "tribute paid to Britain" ( IRS Publication 6209).

When you agree to have a Social Security Number you surrender your sovereignty and agree to become franchisees of the UNITED STATES.

An "interesting" executive order we shouldn't be so happy about is: 12803 signed by the first Pres Bush that puts all public property or what we assume we have paid for with our tax dollars up for sale ie roads, bridges, schools, prisons even WATER... up for sale!

George Bush declared the war on terror not to protect Americans but to further the corporation of the UNITED STATES.

The United States operates under commercial law to overcome the checks and balances of common law. It is a total fraud. The Pope can even abolish any law in the United States.

Look it up:

All taxpayers have an Individual Master File which is in code. By using IRS Publication 6209, which is over 400 pages, there is a blocking series which shows the taxpayer the type of tax that is being paid. Most taxpayers fall under a 300-399 blocking series, which 6209 states is reserved, but by going to BMF 300-399 which is the Business Master File in 6209 prior to 1991, this was U.S.-U.K. Tax Claims, meaning taxpayers are considered a business and involved in commerce and are held liable for taxes via a treaty between the U.S. and the U.K., payable to the U.K. The form that is supposed to be used for this is form 8288, FIRPTA-Foreign Investment Real Property Tax Account. The 8288 form is in the Law Enforcement Manual of the IRS, chapter 3. The OMB’s-paper-Office of Management and Budget, in the Department of Treasury, List of Active Information collections, Approved Under Paperwork Reduction Act is where form 8288 is found under OMB number 1545-0902, which says U.S. with holding tax return for dispositions by fo


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Re: Conspiracy Theories

Postby warmonger1981 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:25 pm

IAHF List: I didn't want to believe this when I got it, but I checked it out on a British government website, (see for yourself below) and its real, and you can see the exact language of our Social Security Act as amended by the Queen of England on the British Government website shown below.

Everything we've ever been taught about our government has been a lie. The USA has never been anything more than a carefully created illusion, it was a corporation that predated the Revulotionary War and the scam dates all the way back to the so called "Founding Fathers" who were all committed Globalists, and members of the Illuminati loyal to the King. The Revolutionary War was nothing more than high drama with a predetermined outcome, and the highest form of control is covert control such that the people being controlled don't even REALIZE they're being controlled.

What this proves is that we've been under a world government already for centuries, and what is happening now is that all PRETENSE of sovereignty is being stripped from us. We never HAD any REAL sovereignty to start with, that was all an ILLUSION.

This helps explain the ATTITUDE of the people who are trying to force CODEX down our throuts. Their ATTITUDE is that we are all slaves, and always HAVE been slaves, and if they want to take our vitamins away, they can because their attitude is that we are powerless to stop them. They'll keep ON believing that right on up until the moment they try to disarm us, and THATS when they'll find out the hard way that people don't like being lied to and deceived constantly. See the great research at Concerned Citizens Against Police States http://www.ccops.org If you aren't yet armed, please GET armed, and join Gun Owners of America http://www.goa.org

What can we do about CODEX? We can educate more people by forwarding this email widely, and we can take TARGET PRACTICE and prepare for WAR against the UN and the puppets in our government who support the UN and Codex.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/queen.htm
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