Should be medals for Tourny Wins [Done]

by **Optimus Prime** on Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:20 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:No, Blitzaholic, now you are only doing it to try and catch up with the much better organizers who are still ahead of you on your precious "Top 5" lists. It's just too bad that you couldn't manage to be the first to do it, that really would have been something now, wouldn't it?

wrong, i dont care about that, tourneys are not my goal
just doing something different
i got 9 tourneys wins, not 7 op
and anytime u want to play more clan challenge games and get your hiny kicked again, let me know
it was fun beating you guys 31-9 or whatever it was

I wasn't referring to your tournament wins, Blitzaholic, read my post again. As for another clan challenge, I'm not interested in a challenge again where only the 1600+ players get to play. When you guys are ready to play my entire clan, come find me. Don't send me a PM though, yours get deleted automatically from my inbox. We didn't mind losing that bad to your clan, we aren't all about the "wins" over here at G1, we are about the fun and good memories. You guys wiped the floor with us, yep, but we are a little better now, perhaps next time we'll make it a little close to even. Although, not unless you guys are willing to play all of us next time.

by **Blitzaholic** on Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:13 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:No, Blitzaholic, now you are only doing it to try and catch up with the much better organizers who are still ahead of you on your precious "Top 5" lists. It's just too bad that you couldn't manage to be the first to do it, that really would have been something now, wouldn't it?

wrong, i dont care about that, tourneys are not my goal
just doing something different
i got 9 tourneys wins, not 7 op
and anytime u want to play more clan challenge games and get your hiny kicked again, let me know
it was fun beating you guys 31-9 or whatever it was

I wasn't referring to your tournament wins, Blitzaholic, read my post again. As for another clan challenge, I'm not interested in a challenge again where only the 1600+ players get to play. When you guys are ready to play my entire clan, come find me. Don't send me a PM though, yours get deleted automatically from my inbox. We didn't mind losing that bad to your clan, we aren't all about the "wins" over here at G1, we are about the fun and good memories. You guys wiped the floor with us, yep, but we are a little better now, perhaps next time we'll make it a little close to even. Although, not unless you guys are willing to play all of us next time.

I am, but would need to discuss it with the whole clan. also, if I really wanted to I could set up 5 tourneys a week easy and have over 100 in a couple months easy, but thats not my goal, the fact I only created 1 tourney in all of december and most of january should tell you that. cheers

by **Blitzaholic** on Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:32 pm

agonzos wrote:There should be medals awarded for tourny wins.[/list]

it's a great idea

Night Strike wrote:We'll get them sometime. (It has been suggested many times before by the way.)

ty N.S.

also, whether it is 16 games or 116 games, winning any tournament is challenging, more challenging than I gave it credit for, and I dont think you will see a big explosion either, remember, entering any of these tourneys will cripple your score, so, many high ranks wont play them due to the average score of a tourney player may be 1500, so, no worries, but, even if it did add to it, and it will some, sure, its great for CC.

do you think it is fair that i spent years playing many 24 hour games, taking forever, then a year in a half later they invent speed, now speed players can get like 50 games completed in a day, it is crazy, but do you hear me complaining?, no, is it fair, no, again, its great for CC though.

by **blakebowling** on Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:37 pm

by **the.killing.44** on Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:48 pm

to be precise

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by **SuicidalSnowman** on Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:40 pm

Ahh very cool!

by **stahrgazer** on Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:56 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:If there ever was a medal for tourney wins, it needs to be based on the amount of people/games in the tournament.

Without that, a win in a 2 game, 16 player tournament counts as much as one for a 30 game 144 player tournament.

If you're going to limit things like that, then it should be amount of games played in the tourney as well, and maybe types of games; 64 ppl in 8-player games might play less games and on fewer maps than 16 ppl in a 1v1 tourney, depending on the setup.

by **laci_mae** on Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:07 pm

I like the idea of getting "medals" for tournament wins. However, I don't like that they're being handed out by the mods because of the wide variety in types of tournament participation. Instead, tournament organizers could be encouraged to create images for tournament winners. These could be posted on users' walls or in a similar, newly added space.

For example, amazzony gave some awards to winners of each round in her huge Olympics tourney.

Thanks,
Laci

by **Zemljanin** on Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:48 am

sully800 wrote:
The Neon Peon wrote:If there ever was a medal for tourney wins, it needs to be based on the amount of people/games in the tournament.

Without that, a win in a 2 game, 16 player tournament counts as much as one for a 30 game 144 player tournament.

Currently you get the same medal for organizing either tournament that you mentioned and the 16 player tournament will be much easier to organize than the 144 player tournament as well.

Whoever successfully organized a proper tournament should get a bronze medal.
Whoever won a proper tournament should get a bronze medal.

Silver medal should be, let's say, 100 points worth and gold one, let's say, 400 points worth. Each tournament would have a certain point value for organizer and a certain point value for winner (depending on number of participants, number of rounds, number of games, number of players in a game...). So you could earn silver medal with 7 bigger tournaments or 15 smaller ones; 20 micro-tourneys or only three huge ones... I thinks it's fair.

Example:
My first win was a 180 players tournament. Player A wins a 16 players tourney and player B wins a 512 players tournament. We all three get bronze medal. BUT, I'm closer to silver one than player A and player B is closer than me. Isn't it fair?

by **Night Strike** on Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:52 am

But there are so many more factors to take into account than just the number of players. You have # of games, format of eliminations, round robin/bracket, league/playoff, etc. You'd have to devise a scale for every single variable AND go through and apply those to every single tournament (700 completed, 280 active, and 40 recruiting). That is an impossible task for tournament directors to keep track of, especially when some organizers don't make detailed first posts outlining the specifics.

I'd be the first to admit that some sort of scale would be nice, and we have examined various methods, but the time to manage such a scaled system is not worth the benefits.

by **Zemljanin** on Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:31 pm

Night Strike wrote:But there are so many more factors to take into account than just the number of players. You have # of games, format of eliminations, round robin/bracket, league/playoff, etc. You'd have to devise a scale for every single variable AND go through and apply those to every single tournament (700 completed, 280 active, and 40 recruiting). That is an impossible task for tournament directors to keep track of, especially when some organizers don't make detailed first posts outlining the specifics.

I'd be the first to admit that some sort of scale would be nice, and we have examined various methods, but the time to manage such a scaled system is not worth the benefits.

DEVELOPING a fair scale is a pretty serious job, I agree. Though, IMHO - it's well worth it.

When it concerns APPLYING, i think 700 previous tourneys demand less than 100 working hours, maybe less than 50. Don't forget - you have to do the job for previous tournaments only ONCE! When you finish it, you'll never have a big problem again. And there are a special possibilities:

a) You can assign every organizer and every winner to do the job for their tourneys - TD-s should only check it.

b) Under certain circumstances, I'd accept to do the whole job alone. (APPLYING, not DEVELOPING)

So the only problem left is - to develop scales (one for organizing, one for winners). However, there are four TD-s; I doubt Optimus Prime would refuse to participate; I doubt Bald Adonis would refuse to participate... And there are many regular TO-s who'd also help...

All in all, this task in a whole seems pretty achievable to me.