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notyou2 wrote:The government in conjunction with the drug companies are putting microchips in the shots so they know where you are at all times and can infect you to increase the consumption of the drugs they make.
Jay told me this.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
#1_stunna wrote:People I know, who have the flu got a flu shot, and their spouses, who have not had the shot; do not have the flu!
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Army of GOD wrote:#1_stunna wrote:People I know, who have the flu got a flu shot, and their spouses, who have not had the shot; do not have the flu!
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This seems to be the trend with people I know too but that could be confirmation bias.
El Capitan X wrote:The people in flame wars just seem to get dimmer and dimmer. Seriously though, I love your style, always a good read.
Viceroy63 wrote:It's a scam! Anything for the almighty Dollar.
http://www.naturalnews.com/033998_influ ... eness.html
A new scientific study published in The Lancet reveals that influenza vaccines only prevent influenza in 1.5 out of every 100 adults who are injected with the flu vaccine. Yet, predictably, this report is being touted by the quack science community, the vaccine-pushing CDC and the scientifically-inept mainstream media as proof that "flu vaccines are 60% effective!"
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033998_influ ... z2Hkr6YnV7
BTW: I was the 13th voter.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Yo. It depends on what strains they've got in the vaccines. There are numerous different strains of influenza viruses and the powers that be decide which go into the pot (usually about three) each year depending on past records of infections and predicted recurrences (or the vaccine cultures are the wrong kind- I don't know if this happens often). Most likely those that get signs of flu are encountering strains which they've never had before or it's been so long that their memory B cell populations have decreased dramatically and they have to produce more. Or they have poor immune systems, or whatever other reasons.
The cultures they put into vaccines are weakened though, and it's pretty much impossible these days to catch something serious from a flu vaccine; if you get that immune response it's probable that it's going to be a lot less severe than if you caught flu the old-fashioned way. Plus, it's actually a good thing, it means your immune system is functioning properly in response to the antigens from the flu vaccine.
I've never had a flu vaccine, though. Haven't had the flu since I was a kid (>15 years).
-TG
Viceroy63 wrote:It's a scam! Anything for the almighty Dollar.
http://www.naturalnews.com/033998_influ ... eness.html
A new scientific study published in The Lancet reveals that influenza vaccines only prevent influenza in 1.5 out of every 100 adults who are injected with the flu vaccine. Yet, predictably, this report is being touted by the quack science community, the vaccine-pushing CDC and the scientifically-inept mainstream media as proof that "flu vaccines are 60% effective!"
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033998_influ ... z2Hkr6YnV7
BTW: I was the 13th voter.
The "treatment group" consisted of adults who were vaccinated with a trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine. Out of this group, according to the study, only 1.2% did not catch the flu.
First, you take the 2.73% in the control group who got the flu, and you divide that into the 1.18% in the treatment group who got the flu. This gives you 0.43.
you are 400% more likely to be injured by the drug than helped by it! (Or 4 times more likely, which is the same thing stated differently.)
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Viceroy63 wrote:It's a scam! Anything for the almighty Dollar.
http://www.naturalnews.com/033998_influ ... eness.html
A new scientific study published in The Lancet reveals that influenza vaccines only prevent influenza in 1.5 out of every 100 adults who are injected with the flu vaccine. Yet, predictably, this report is being touted by the quack science community, the vaccine-pushing CDC and the scientifically-inept mainstream media as proof that "flu vaccines are 60% effective!"
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033998_influ ... z2Hkr6YnV7
BTW: I was the 13th voter.
You should try reading that before proclaiming it from the heavens. He can't even keep his figures or data straight:The "treatment group" consisted of adults who were vaccinated with a trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine. Out of this group, according to the study, only 1.2% did not catch the flu.
So he's saying that 98.8% of the variable group caught the flu? That's, like, the most virulent strain of influenza, ever. Which is pretty amazing considering it's an inactivated culture. Scroll down a few lines and:First, you take the 2.73% in the control group who got the flu, and you divide that into the 1.18% in the treatment group who got the flu. This gives you 0.43.
Why the disparity? Because he's a twat.
Try boning up on cell-mediated immunity before accusing others of ignorance when you so readily display it yourself.
-TG
edit: oh god, this guy is terrible at stats:you are 400% more likely to be injured by the drug than helped by it! (Or 4 times more likely, which is the same thing stated differently.)
4x= 300% increase.
Symmetry wrote:It's almost as if we're talking about a virus.
Viceroy wrote:Read the article again. Sometime you pick up on things better when you read it twice.
First of all, if you get the shot, you get the flu. Period.
El Capitan X wrote:The people in flame wars just seem to get dimmer and dimmer. Seriously though, I love your style, always a good read.
_sabotage_ wrote:In prison, they gave us the flu shot each year, i then watched as whole cellblocks got the flu. These were mainly healthy young men.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:No influenza virus has 99% virulence.
Hilarious. He says 1.2% percent contracted the flu, then he later says that same 1.2% didn't. Which is it?
The article never stated what you are claiming above. The article was speaking of two groups and both groups had the flu.
only 1.2% did not catch the flu.
1.18% in the treatment group who got the flu.
#1_stunna wrote:People I know, who have the flu got a flu shot, and their spouses, who have not had the shot; do not have the flu.
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