General Rest in Peace thread

[Army of GOD]

Alright, since I know Pedro gets an aneurism any time someone makes a dead celebrity thread, I'll make this thread so we can at least have condensed condolences.


Unfortunately I'm going to have to start it off with Michael Clarke Duncan. I know everyone else in the world remembers him mostly as the guy from the Green Mile but I'll remember him as the bouncer in Night of the Roxbury.


Good night, sweet prince.

[BigBallinStalin]

His deep voice will forever echo throughout the fibers of my soul.



Also, I enjoyed his performance in The Green Mile.

[Dukasaur]

Unfortunately I'm going to have to start it off with Michael Clarke Duncan. I know everyone else in the world remembers him mostly as the guy from the Green Mile but I'll remember him as the bouncer in Night of the Roxbury.

Neither. To me he will always be Bear from the movie Armageddon.

And yes, a great guy by all accounts.

[whitestazn88]

He sucked the sickness out of another man's body while grasping his penis. Can't beat that. #RIPMCD

[Phatscotty]

Armageddon

"Come and get Pappa Bear!"

[Gilligan]

Watched Invasion of the Tinysauruses last night

RIP

[isaiah40]

And Gilligan died as well. Bob Denver that is!!

[Gilligan]

And Gilligan died as well. Bob Denver that is!!

That was a day before!! And 7 years...

[2dimes]

And Gilligan died as well. Bob Denver that is!!

That was a day before!! And 7 years...

http://blog.chron.com/hottopics/2012/09 ... till-dead/

http://storify.com/preovolos/bob-denver-is-still-dead

[Army of GOD]

RIP Steve Sabol

NFL Films is awesome. He will be missed.

[Army of GOD]

RIP Jeff Hanneman, guitarist for Slayer.

Looks like it'll be raining blood tonight.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Raining Blood and Angel of Death are the only two Slayer songs I ever really cared for. Figures the good songwriter dies.

-TG

[Gillipig]

"Rest in peace" is a pretty empty saying if you don't believe in a diety. So atheists have to find some other cliche sentence to use in these circumstances.

[Army of GOD]

"Gillipig is a unimaginative dickbag"?

[Dukasaur]

"Rest in peace" is a pretty empty saying if you don't believe in a diety. So atheists have to find some other cliche sentence to use in these circumstances.

Incorrect. Rest does not require a diety, only a struggle to rest from.

[Serbia]

"Gillipig is a unimaginative dickbag"?

AN*

Bollocks.

[Gillipig]

"Rest in peace" is a pretty empty saying if you don't believe in a diety. So atheists have to find some other cliche sentence to use in these circumstances.

Incorrect. Rest does not require a diety, only a struggle to rest from.

Explain this to me. How are you supposed to "rest" if there is no afterlife? If you don't believe in an afterlife, then expressing your wish for a person to "rest" in it is obviously an empty expression. Because you don't think he can rest, be anxious, be in pain etc, and if you do you're not really an atheist. An atheist could say "may his memory rest in peace" or something like that, expressing the wish that people won't start viewing this person in bad light, but wishing he himself should rest in peace is quite silly if you don't believe in god.

[2dimes]

Afterlife will not be rest. A person's memory will not be at rest until it is no longer used, that might be the memories death. We know who my great grandfather was but not his father.

Rest offered in death may be more significant for an atheist, especially if it follows a period of pain.

[Dukasaur]

"Rest in peace" is a pretty empty saying if you don't believe in a diety. So atheists have to find some other cliche sentence to use in these circumstances.

Incorrect. Rest does not require a diety, only a struggle to rest from.

Explain this to me. How are you supposed to "rest" if there is no afterlife? If you don't believe in an afterlife, then expressing your wish for a person to "rest" in it is obviously an empty expression. Because you don't think he can rest, be anxious, be in pain etc, and if you do you're not really an atheist. An atheist could say "may his memory rest in peace" or something like that, expressing the wish that people won't start viewing this person in bad light, but wishing he himself should rest in peace is quite silly if you don't believe in god.

Afterlife will not be rest. A person's memory will not be at rest until it is no longer used, that might be the memories death. We know who my great grandfather was but not his father.

Rest offered in death may be more significant for an atheist, especially if it follows a period of pain.

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That's the basic answer. If all of life is suffering and anguish, then death is a release, not a punishment...

“If the immediate and direct purpose of our life is not suffering then our existence is the most Ill-adapted to its purpose in the world: for it is absurd to suppose that the endless affliction of which the world is everywhere full, and which arises out of the need and distress pertaining essentially to life, should be purposeless and purely accidental. Each individual misfortune, to be sure, seems an exceptional occurrence; but misfortune in general is the rule.”

Other non-deist answers are possible as well. There are numerous variations of spiritualist beliefs which allow for a soul and reincarnation without requiring a deity.

Beyond that, there are Platonic speculations, where life and death are equally illusory. If our existence is just the dream of a madman, then our death is just another phase in the dream.

So, there's at least 3 answers. I could go on, but I think three examples is enough to crush your dreams of building a successful hypothesis.

[2dimes]

If our existence is just the dream of a madman, then our death is just another phase in the dream.

Is it madness or something we can't understand, most easily explained away with the term?

[Gillipig]

"Rest in peace" is a pretty empty saying if you don't believe in a diety. So atheists have to find some other cliche sentence to use in these circumstances.

Incorrect. Rest does not require a diety, only a struggle to rest from.

Explain this to me. How are you supposed to "rest" if there is no afterlife? If you don't believe in an afterlife, then expressing your wish for a person to "rest" in it is obviously an empty expression. Because you don't think he can rest, be anxious, be in pain etc, and if you do you're not really an atheist. An atheist could say "may his memory rest in peace" or something like that, expressing the wish that people won't start viewing this person in bad light, but wishing he himself should rest in peace is quite silly if you don't believe in god.

Afterlife will not be rest. A person's memory will not be at rest until it is no longer used, that might be the memories death. We know who my great grandfather was but not his father.

Rest offered in death may be more significant for an atheist, especially if it follows a period of pain.

.
That's the basic answer. If all of life is suffering and anguish, then death is a release, not a punishment...

“If the immediate and direct purpose of our life is not suffering then our existence is the most Ill-adapted to its purpose in the world: for it is absurd to suppose that the endless affliction of which the world is everywhere full, and which arises out of the need and distress pertaining essentially to life, should be purposeless and purely accidental. Each individual misfortune, to be sure, seems an exceptional occurrence; but misfortune in general is the rule.”

Other non-deist answers are possible as well. There are numerous variations of spiritualist beliefs which allow for a soul and reincarnation without requiring a deity.

Beyond that, there are Platonic speculations, where life and death are equally illusory. If our existence is just the dream of a madman, then our death is just another phase in the dream.

So, there's at least 3 answers. I could go on, but I think three examples is enough to crush your dreams of building a successful hypothesis.

I can't believe I have to say this but the feeling of relief is a feeling, and if there isn't an afterlife how are you supposed to feel anything? That cherished feeling of not feeling anything is an illusion. You don't know what it's like to feel nothing, you've felt something all your life, you don't die when you go to sleep, if you think being dead is like resting you will.......I was about to say "be disappointed" but that's the thing, you won't be that either. Feeling nothing is not the same as resting, you don't die when you go to bed.

[2dimes]

So you have never been injured?

[Gillipig]

So you have never been injured?

Never so badly I've died no. Do you have a "back from the other side" story to tell us?

[2dimes]

No but when I have had any bad injuries I don't feel them during sleep. It's the only time to "rest" from the pain. I took a generic Tylenol 3 copy that so far was the only narcotic that functioned on me. It was similar yet different. It offered distraction instead of rest. It did make it easier at times to go to sleep which then offered rest.

[Gillipig]

No but when I have had any bad injuries I don't feel them during sleep. It's the only time to "rest" from the pain. I took a generic Tylenol 3 copy that so far was the only narcotic that functioned on me. It was similar yet different. It offered distraction instead of rest. It did make it easier at times to go to sleep which then offered rest.

Yeah well you're not dead when you take some painkillers and go to bed. Just because you're not conscious doesn't mean you don't feel anything. I may be sleeping heavy on painkillers but if someone pours a bucket of water on me and starts beating me up, I wake up pretty quickly. I couldn't do that if I didn't feel anything.