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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby chang50 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:45 am

universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.


Noah's Ark was found in the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey. Built exactly as the Bible described it, built with the same wood as the Bible said, built with the same length, height and depth as the Bible describes it and resting in the location the Bible said it was. Genesis chapters 6-9. Read it and search, you will find. Ask for truth, you will get it. Knock and the door will be open to you. God is waiting for you.

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http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah%27s_ark.htm
http://planet.infowars.com/outdoors/exp ... -noahs-ark
They have found timber, laid out with bulk heads, a keel, keelson, etc.
They found huge stones with a hole at the top, 3 on each side. These provide stabilization and prevent rocking and movement. Clearly for a ship, not meant to move, but to survive.

If you are too comfortable in believing in evolution and don't want truth, then just laugh and poke fun. But if you still have a mind and desire for truth, then you owe this to your eternal soul to seek for truth. Don't delay!



It's bordering on impossible not to laugh when someone thinks the theory of evolution deals with the formation of the earth,or have you checked that one out but forgot to retract your earlier statements?
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby waauw on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:53 am

universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.


Noah's Ark was found in the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey. Built exactly as the Bible described it, built with the same wood as the Bible said, built with the same length, height and depth as the Bible describes it and resting in the location the Bible said it was. Genesis chapters 6-9. Read it and search, you will find. Ask for truth, you will get it. Knock and the door will be open to you. God is waiting for you.

Click image to enlarge.
image

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah%27s_ark.htm
http://planet.infowars.com/outdoors/exp ... -noahs-ark
They have found timber, laid out with bulk heads, a keel, keelson, etc.
They found huge stones with a hole at the top, 3 on each side. These provide stabilization and prevent rocking and movement. Clearly for a ship, not meant to move, but to survive.

If you are too comfortable in believing in evolution and don't want truth, then just laugh and poke fun. But if you still have a mind and desire for truth, then you owe this to your eternal soul to seek for truth. Don't delay!


Lol stop lying! You say it was built with the same wood as mentioned in the Bible and the sources you yourself gave us say another thing. They say it was probably made out of Cypress instead of Gopher.

Here are some other few quotes from your so-called proof of Bible accuracy:

Quote 1
He added: ā€˜If there had been a flood capable of lifting a huge ship 4km up the side of a mountain 4,800 years ago, I think there would be substantial geological evidence for this flood around the world. And there isn’t.’

Quote 2
ā€œI think we can’t rule out the possibility that this is a hoax, because a lot of the things that happen in that region of the world, and especially with the Kurdish guides that are involved, are designed to try to extract money from gullible people,ā€ Price said.

Quote 3
ā€œIf the remains of Noah’s Ark are on Mt. Ararat,ā€ Taylor says, ā€œthe only logical place would be at the Ararat anomaly site, and not at the site in these sensational claims made by this group.ā€

Quote 4
The Ark, depending on how you measure a cubit, could be anywhere from 450 to 600 feet long. The anomaly is 1,200 feet. But, Porcher says, scientists have debated for years the length of a cubit, which is thought to be the length of a man’s forearm between the elbow and the tip of his finger. But whose elbow?

==> and this doesn't even include other criticism you can find all over the internet about this.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby waauw on Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:07 pm

universalchiro wrote:oh waauw, I already address the Amelekites. They were performing child sacrifices to a god. And Murder in the 10 Commandments is illegal killing for example murder. God sent messenger after messenger that if the Amelekites didn't change from their evil illegal murder, God would justifiably judge them.


http://www.levitt.com/hebrew/commandments.html
"Hebraic Insight…

The Jewish sages note that the word ā€œratsakhā€ applies only to illegal killing (e.g., premeditated murder or manslaughter) — and is never used in the administration of justice or for killing in war. Hence the KJV translation as ā€œthou shalt not killā€ is too broad.

Since man is made in the image of God, his life is infinitely precious — only God Himself has the right to give and take life. In the Mishnah it is written, ā€œWhy was only one man (i.e., Adam) created by God? — to teach that whoever takes a single life destroys thereby a whole world.ā€

But murder can be figurative as well as literal. The Talmud notes that shaming another publicly is like murder, since the shame causes the blood to leave the face. Moreover, gossip or slander are considered murderous to the dignity of man. The Pirkei Avot (Ethics of the Fathers) states, ā€œThe evil tongue slays three persons: the utterer of the evil, the listener, and the one spoken aboutā€¦ā€ The Lord Jesus also linked the ideas of our words and attitudes with murder (see Matt. 15:19).
(hebrew)
ā€œThou Shalt Not Killā€ Is Thou Shall not illegally murder.
— Ex. 20: "


As far as King David's house standing forever? This too is very easy to see when someone searches for truth.
Let's look at the Genealogy of Jesus:
Matthew 1:1-18 This is through the legal line of Jesus' earthly father. Since Joseph didn't sire Jesus, for to fulfill prophecy, Jesus was virgin born, the wording changes from all the forefathers till it gets to Joseph. On all of the forefathers it says so and so was the father of so and so, but when it gets to Joseph, it says "Joseph the husband of Mary. To underscore that Joseph didn't sire Jesus, though he was his earthly father. Also, the genealogy starts off with Jesus the Messiah, the son of David. Clearly stating the line of King David is to Jesus.
Luke give a different genealogy, Luke 3:23-38. This genealogy is through the blood line of Mary.

Interesting that one genealogy goes from Jesus through King David to Adam to God. The other goes from God through Adam, through King David to Jesus. They go in opposite directions, a legal line through Joseph and a blood line through Mary. Why? To be redundant for the nay sayers, to be clear.

So the question is, is Jesus the King of the Jews?
Luke 23:3 Jesus on trial by Pilate for claiming to be God, Pilate asks Jesus, "Are you the King of the Jews?" And Jesus answered him and said, "It is as you say". And they put a crown of thorns to mock Him for being King of the Jews and they scourged Him with whips that had metal shards at the tip, that ripped the flesh off His back, then while bleeding and beaten and spat upon and beard pulled out, they mocked Him again by putting a royal purple robe on his opens wounds. As the blood coagulated, then they stripped Him of the royal robe. Humiliating Jesus they nailed Him to a cross and hung a placard above Him that read "THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS." Luke 23:38. All the while Jesus did not turn His face away when they beat Him, He did not fight back, He willingly went as a lamb to the slaughter. Why?

All this was foretold to occur, to every word that proceeded out of Jesus' mouth was to fulfill prophecy. And guess who was overseeing all this and all this pleased Him to see Jesus being nailed to the cross? God the Father. Isaiah 53:10... Why?

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

But that's not the end of the story... Revelation 21 & 22 The lamb that died on the cross will come down and reign from Jerusalem and His glory will put the sun and moon to shame, there will be no night in the region for His glory will light all. And this will be forever and ever.

So the lineage of King David, his offspring will indeed reign on the throne forever through Jesus the Christ. But a hidden truth is that God has always been King of Israel, from ancient of days even through now. Most of the time this is not physically seen with our eyes. But 1 Samuel 8:7 gives clarity that God has always been King and that God of the the trinity is Jesus. "The LORD said to Samuel, "Listen to the voice of the people in regard to all that they say to you, for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me from being King over them."


So you admit that the kingdom didn't stand forever. On top of that you neglect the many empires which conquered Israel and the entire region for that matter, bringing an end to the reign of jews over their own land.

Also how very convenient for you once again to try and blurr the meanings of words with literal and figurative interpretations. How hell can you even proclaim here that you know the truth when so much in the Bible is so easily interpreted as something else?

btw, here's another one:
Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and mighty in power;
his understanding has no limit.

==> he is omniscient

Genesis 3:8
But the Lord God called to the man, ā€œWhere are you?ā€
==> God does not know where Adam is hiding. In fact all throughout the Bible God asks questions and is surprised on several occasions. How can this be if he is omniscient?
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:49 pm

universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.


Noah's Ark was found in the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey. Built exactly as the Bible described it, built with the same wood as the Bible said, built with the same length, height and depth as the Bible describes it and resting in the location the Bible said it was. Genesis chapters 6-9. Read it and search, you will find. Ask for truth, you will get it. Knock and the door will be open to you. God is waiting for you.

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http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah%27s_ark.htm
http://planet.infowars.com/outdoors/exp ... -noahs-ark
They have found timber, laid out with bulk heads, a keel, keelson, etc.
They found huge stones with a hole at the top, 3 on each side. These provide stabilization and prevent rocking and movement. Clearly for a ship, not meant to move, but to survive.

If you are too comfortable in believing in evolution and don't want truth, then just laugh and poke fun. But if you still have a mind and desire for truth, then you owe this to your eternal soul to seek for truth. Don't delay!


Excellent research. Very credible sources: arkdiscovery.com and infowars.com.

So, how'd they fit 2 of every species/creature on that ship for X-amount of days?

I know the people who wrote the people didn't think that this would be a problem since they probably were not aware of how many species there actually was at the time. Oh wait a minute, maybe they didn't take it literally--unlike this recent, Christian fundamentalist movement from the 1950s/1960s.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:52 pm

waauw wrote:
universalchiro wrote:Image


So you admit that the kingdom didn't stand forever. On top of that you neglect the many empires which conquered Israel and the entire region for that matter, bringing an end to the reign of jews over their own land.

Also how very convenient for you once again to try and blurr the meanings of words with literal and figurative interpretations. How hell can you even proclaim here that you know the truth when so much in the Bible is so easily interpreted as something else?

btw, here's another one:
Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and mighty in power;
his understanding has no limit.

==> he is omniscient

Genesis 3:8
But the Lord God called to the man, ā€œWhere are you?ā€
==> God does not know where Adam is hiding. In fact all throughout the Bible God asks questions and is surprised on several occasions. How can this be if he is omniscient?


Oh gee! He pulled out a literal v. metaphorical argument!? I can't wait until he cracks out the arbitrary distinction!
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby universalchiro on Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:36 pm

chang50 wrote:
universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.


Noah's Ark was found in the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey. Built exactly as the Bible described it, built with the same wood as the Bible said, built with the same length, height and depth as the Bible describes it and resting in the location the Bible said it was. Genesis chapters 6-9. Read it and search, you will find. Ask for truth, you will get it. Knock and the door will be open to you. God is waiting for you.

Click image to enlarge.
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http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah%27s_ark.htm
http://planet.infowars.com/outdoors/exp ... -noahs-ark
They have found timber, laid out with bulk heads, a keel, keelson, etc.
They found huge stones with a hole at the top, 3 on each side. These provide stabilization and prevent rocking and movement. Clearly for a ship, not meant to move, but to survive.

If you are too comfortable in believing in evolution and don't want truth, then just laugh and poke fun. But if you still have a mind and desire for truth, then you owe this to your eternal soul to seek for truth. Don't delay!



It's bordering on impossible not to laugh when someone thinks the theory of evolution deals with the formation of the earth,or have you checked that one out but forgot to retract your earlier statements?

You are performing logical suicide. What evolutionary process occurs on the earth without the earth? Nothing.
What evolutionary process occurs on the earth without the earth's natural processes? Nothing.
You are so blind to your own religion, you don't even know your own doctrine when you hear it.
Without the earth, no evolutionary process occurs on the earth. Every living thing has come to life from the earth's rock and rain of amino acids and proteins that formed complex structures that formed complex molecular structures and given enough time evolved through natural processes into single cell life form. And subsequently into the complexities of life today. Looks like you need the ABC's of evolution. For all and I mean all evolutionist believe the earth was molten 4.6 billion years ago and slowly cooled over millions of years to billion years allowing life to form. You are clueless. And I already addressed this by siting 2 sources of your religion that affirmed what I said.

Evolutionist are leaning too much on a crutch, "Nice straw man argument". Just continue in your ignorance. Believe what has already been proven a flawed hypothesis.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:41 pm

universalchiro wrote:Believe what has already been proven a flawed hypothesis.

I agree with this part of your post.


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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby universalchiro on Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:48 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.


Noah's Ark was found in the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey. Built exactly as the Bible described it, built with the same wood as the Bible said, built with the same length, height and depth as the Bible describes it and resting in the location the Bible said it was. Genesis chapters 6-9. Read it and search, you will find. Ask for truth, you will get it. Knock and the door will be open to you. God is waiting for you.

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http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah%27s_ark.htm
http://planet.infowars.com/outdoors/exp ... -noahs-ark
They have found timber, laid out with bulk heads, a keel, keelson, etc.
They found huge stones with a hole at the top, 3 on each side. These provide stabilization and prevent rocking and movement. Clearly for a ship, not meant to move, but to survive.

If you are too comfortable in believing in evolution and don't want truth, then just laugh and poke fun. But if you still have a mind and desire for truth, then you owe this to your eternal soul to seek for truth. Don't delay!


So, how'd they fit 2 of every species/creature on that ship for X-amount of days?
This is a very good question. I'm proud of you form asking a serious question: Since every single dog, from tiny Maltese to large Great Dane are descendants of the wolf. Then all Noah had to do was grab a male and female baby wolf.

Noah did not grab full size adults of these beast. Also, God guided and sent them to Noah.
The next question would be well did he grab dinosaurs? The answer is yes. All dinosaurs are reptiles. the flood changed the conditions of the earth. Gravity was increased by about 25%. And oxygen concentration was reduced by 50%. Both those two things would change the genome over time and the result would be length of life is reduced and the size of life is reduced. After the flood age of life reduced with each passing generation. From Noah 900+, his son 750+, next son 550+, next son 450+, next generation son 350+, next generation son 275+, next son 250+, then came the book of Job. In the book of Job, there are Behemoth creatures with tails as large as Cedar trees. Cedar trees in Mesopotamian region grew 50-75 feet tall.

So with the reduction of oxygen and increased gravity, the genome had to adapt and the result was loss of longevity of life and reduction of the size of life.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:57 pm

universalchiro wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:So, how'd they fit 2 of every species/creature on that ship for X-amount of days?
This is a very good question. I'm proud of you form asking a serious question: Since every single dog, from tiny Maltese to large Great Dane are descendants of the wolf. Then all Noah had to do was grab a male and female baby wolf.

Noah did grab full size adults of these beast. Also, God guided and sent them to Noah.
The next question would be well did he grab dinosaurs? The answer is yes. All dinosaurs are reptiles. the flood changed the conditions of the earth. Gravity was increased by about 25%. And oxygen concentration was reduced by 50%. Both those two things would change the genome over time and the result would be length of life is reduced and the size of life is reduced. After the flood age of life reduced with each passing generation. From Noah 900+, his son 750+, next son 550+, next son 450+, next generation son 350+, next generation son 275+, next son 250+, then came the book of Job. In the book of Job, there are Behemoth creatures with tails as large as Cedar trees. Cedar trees in Mesopotamian region grew 50-75 feet tall.

So with the reduction of oxygen and increased gravity, the genome had to adapt and the result was loss of longevity of life and reduction of the size of life.


This video summarizes things pretty well, BBS:



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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby waauw on Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:17 pm

universalchiro wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.


Noah's Ark was found in the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey. Built exactly as the Bible described it, built with the same wood as the Bible said, built with the same length, height and depth as the Bible describes it and resting in the location the Bible said it was. Genesis chapters 6-9. Read it and search, you will find. Ask for truth, you will get it. Knock and the door will be open to you. God is waiting for you.

Click image to enlarge.
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http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah%27s_ark.htm
http://planet.infowars.com/outdoors/exp ... -noahs-ark
They have found timber, laid out with bulk heads, a keel, keelson, etc.
They found huge stones with a hole at the top, 3 on each side. These provide stabilization and prevent rocking and movement. Clearly for a ship, not meant to move, but to survive.

If you are too comfortable in believing in evolution and don't want truth, then just laugh and poke fun. But if you still have a mind and desire for truth, then you owe this to your eternal soul to seek for truth. Don't delay!


So, how'd they fit 2 of every species/creature on that ship for X-amount of days?
This is a very good question. I'm proud of you form asking a serious question: Since every single dog, from tiny Maltese to large Great Dane are descendants of the wolf. Then all Noah had to do was grab a male and female baby wolf.

Noah did grab full size adults of these beast. Also, God guided and sent them to Noah.
The next question would be well did he grab dinosaurs? The answer is yes. All dinosaurs are reptiles. the flood changed the conditions of the earth. Gravity was increased by about 25%. And oxygen concentration was reduced by 50%. Both those two things would change the genome over time and the result would be length of life is reduced and the size of life is reduced. After the flood age of life reduced with each passing generation. From Noah 900+, his son 750+, next son 550+, next son 450+, next generation son 350+, next generation son 275+, next son 250+, then came the book of Job. In the book of Job, there are Behemoth creatures with tails as large as Cedar trees. Cedar trees in Mesopotamian region grew 50-75 feet tall.

So with the reduction of oxygen and increased gravity, the genome had to adapt and the result was loss of longevity of life and reduction of the size of life.


This is by far the oddest thing I've ever read here :|
Though I'd like to see you explain how they could possibly all survive on that boat with all the necessary food and heat requirements. :D
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Gillipig on Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:26 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


This is why I keep coming back to this site, for the lols, the fucking lols, thank you, and I mean a sincere thank you universalchiro for displaying how stupid Americans are. Literal believers the whole lot of you haha.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:06 pm

universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.


Noah's Ark was found in the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey. Built exactly as the Bible described it, built with the same wood as the Bible said, built with the same length, height and depth as the Bible describes it and resting in the location the Bible said it was. Genesis chapters 6-9. Read it and search, you will find. Ask for truth, you will get it. Knock and the door will be open to you. God is waiting for you.

Click image to enlarge.
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http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah%27s_ark.htm
http://planet.infowars.com/outdoors/exp ... -noahs-ark
They have found timber, laid out with bulk heads, a keel, keelson, etc.
They found huge stones with a hole at the top, 3 on each side. These provide stabilization and prevent rocking and movement. Clearly for a ship, not meant to move, but to survive.

If you are too comfortable in believing in evolution and don't want truth, then just laugh and poke fun. But if you still have a mind and desire for truth, then you owe this to your eternal soul to seek for truth. Don't delay!




I saw the original 2 hour documentary and was thoroughly convinced. Many people don't even realize that this is a discovery that has been in process since 1977 and not some all of a sudden discovery that can be dismissed as easily. even the government of Turkey acknowledges this fact and the area is a national park preservation site. Many visits have been made to this site and all are conclusive that this is a ship matching the size configuration of Noah's Ark.

Ironically what brought this discovery to light was an earthquake which protuded more of the ark upwards and out of the earth to what it looks like today. Perhaps it is God who decided that it is time that the truth of Noah's Ark surfaced. Normally an earthquake would tend to bury and conceal things. Since then there have been many excavation and artifacts (Wood, nails and such) and they have excavated into the Ark to reveal chambers between the collapsed petrified wood.

What I find intriguing is that the shape is consistant with how you would build a ship. The Bible reads that Noah was instructed to apply "Pitch" (a type of tar) to both the inside and the outside of the ark. If the ark was square shape as is presume in some conceptual art, then how do you get the "Pitch" to the bottom of the ark.

The Pitch is not only a sealant but like a glue, helps to hold the ark together. Otherwise you would not need the pitch inside of the ark. Unless it helps to hold the ark together as well. So that would be odd if you have Pitch on the top and the sides but not on the Bottom. That is with a flat bottom. But with a keel construction you can then apply pitch to the bottom both inside and out.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby waauw on Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:22 pm

Viceroy63 wrote:
universalchiro wrote:
CreepersWiener wrote:I am looking for evidence of God. If any of you have any...please post it here.


Noah's Ark was found in the Mountains of Ararat in Turkey. Built exactly as the Bible described it, built with the same wood as the Bible said, built with the same length, height and depth as the Bible describes it and resting in the location the Bible said it was. Genesis chapters 6-9. Read it and search, you will find. Ask for truth, you will get it. Knock and the door will be open to you. God is waiting for you.

Click image to enlarge.
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http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah%27s_ark.htm
http://planet.infowars.com/outdoors/exp ... -noahs-ark
They have found timber, laid out with bulk heads, a keel, keelson, etc.
They found huge stones with a hole at the top, 3 on each side. These provide stabilization and prevent rocking and movement. Clearly for a ship, not meant to move, but to survive.

If you are too comfortable in believing in evolution and don't want truth, then just laugh and poke fun. But if you still have a mind and desire for truth, then you owe this to your eternal soul to seek for truth. Don't delay!




I saw the original 2 hour documentary and was thoroughly convinced. Many people don't even realize that this is a discovery that has been in process since 1977 and not some all of a sudden discovery that can be dismissed as easily. even the government of Turkey acknowledges this fact and the area is a national park preservation site. Many visits have been made to this site and all are conclusive that this is a ship matching the size configuration of Noah's Ark.

Ironically what brought this discovery to light was an earthquake which protuded more of the ark upwards and out of the earth to what it looks like today. Perhaps it is God who decided that it is time that the truth of Noah's Ark surfaced. Normally an earthquake would tend to bury and conceal things. Since then there have been many excavation and artifacts (Wood, nails and such) and they have excavated into the Ark to reveal chambers between the collapsed petrified wood.

What I find intriguing is that the shape is consistant with how you would build a ship. The Bible reads that Noah was instructed to apply "Pitch" (a type of tar) to both the inside and the outside of the ark. If the ark was square shape as is presume in some conceptual art, then how do you get the "Pitch" to the bottom of the ark.

The Pitch is not only a sealant but like a glue, helps to hold the ark together. Otherwise you would not need the pitch inside of the ark. Unless it helps to hold the ark together as well. So that would be odd if you have Pitch on the top and the sides but not on the Bottom. That is with a flat bottom. But with a keel construction you can then apply pitch to the bottom both inside and out.


I see you've jumped onto the next subject ignoring all answers to your statements once again...
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:26 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
universalchiro wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:So, how'd they fit 2 of every species/creature on that ship for X-amount of days?
This is a very good question. I'm proud of you form asking a serious question: Since every single dog, from tiny Maltese to large Great Dane are descendants of the wolf. Then all Noah had to do was grab a male and female baby wolf.

Noah did grab full size adults of these beast. Also, God guided and sent them to Noah.
The next question would be well did he grab dinosaurs? The answer is yes. All dinosaurs are reptiles. the flood changed the conditions of the earth. Gravity was increased by about 25%. And oxygen concentration was reduced by 50%. Both those two things would change the genome over time and the result would be length of life is reduced and the size of life is reduced. After the flood age of life reduced with each passing generation. From Noah 900+, his son 750+, next son 550+, next son 450+, next generation son 350+, next generation son 275+, next son 250+, then came the book of Job. In the book of Job, there are Behemoth creatures with tails as large as Cedar trees. Cedar trees in Mesopotamian region grew 50-75 feet tall.

So with the reduction of oxygen and increased gravity, the genome had to adapt and the result was loss of longevity of life and reduction of the size of life.


This video summarizes things pretty well, BBS:



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I've weighed the relative evidence, and Andy's video makes more sense.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby john9blue on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:19 pm

this topic is pathetic.

if this were a judged debate, chiro and viceroy would be crushing you idiots.

just because you are in the majority (and, IMO, correct) opinion doesn't mean you get to circlejerk and post stupid trolling flaming bullshit
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:35 pm

john9blue wrote:this topic is pathetic.

if this were a judged debate, chiro and viceroy would be crushing you idiots.

just because you are in the majority (and, IMO, correct) opinion doesn't mean you get to circlejerk and post stupid trolling flaming bullshit


I'm sorry, what? If the criteria to win a judged debate is to reference sketchy sites and apply nonsensical interpretations of physical laws, then I'm not sure the "debate" is valid. Quit being an apologist, john.

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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby john9blue on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:02 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
I'm sorry, what? If the criteria to win a judged debate is to reference sketchy sites and apply nonsensical interpretations of physical laws, then I'm not sure the "debate" is valid. Quit being an apologist, john.

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if the opposition posts sarcastic one-liners and youtube videos, then i agree, there's hardly a debate at all.

quit being an apologist for "your" side just because you agree with them.

and people wonder why nobody likes atheists...
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:11 pm

john9blue wrote:if the opposition posts sarcastic one-liners and youtube videos, then i agree, there's hardly a debate at all.

quit being an apologist for "your" side just because you agree with them.

and people wonder why nobody likes atheists...


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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby crispybits on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:14 pm

john9blue wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
I'm sorry, what? If the criteria to win a judged debate is to reference sketchy sites and apply nonsensical interpretations of physical laws, then I'm not sure the "debate" is valid. Quit being an apologist, john.

-TG


if the opposition posts sarcastic one-liners and youtube videos, then i agree, there's hardly a debate at all.

quit being an apologist for "your" side just because you agree with them.

and people wonder why nobody likes atheists...


We have posted full rebutals to pretty much everything they've brought several times over. The fact they keep repeating flawed arguments over and over and over again means it's not a debate it's a bunch of idiots sticking their fingers in their ears shouting "la la la we're right and we can't hear you!!!". After the 5th or 6th time they post the same thing that's been demonstrated false so many times already the appropriate response is sarcasm and mockery.

and people wonder why nobody likes contrarians.....
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Viceroy63 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:26 pm

We have posted full rebutals to pretty much everything they've brought several times over.


Sure you have??? If you say so. :-s :?
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Symmetry on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:34 pm

Viceroy63 wrote:Image


Are you really still posting this?
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:40 pm

john9blue wrote:this topic is pathetic.

if this were a judged debate, chiro and viceroy would be crushing you idiots.

just because you are in the majority (and, IMO, correct) opinion doesn't mean you get to circlejerk and post stupid trolling flaming bullshit


You'd be correct if you ignored points we've already made--and which have been unaddressed--for the past 80 or so pages. But yeah, your post may make some sense when you consider the past 2-4 pages. Certainly, that wouldn't be taking anything out of context and coming to an incorrect conclusion.

(good troll post by the way).
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:43 pm

Viceroy63 wrote:
We have posted full rebutals to pretty much everything they've brought several times over.


Sure you have??? If you say so. :-s :?


Yeah, you've proven yourself worthy after failing to hold your ground. When will you make the next earthquake shift in the debate to avoid the difficult criticism? Time will tell.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby Lootifer on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:43 am

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You should read his article before copying and pasting, he is unable to refute, he is asking for more clarity, more information before he accepts Dr. Robert Gentry's findings. This doesn't refute at all. And he is not a peer to Dr. Robert Gentry, so he is not providing a peer review. Dr. Robert Gentry has already submitted his findings over the past 3 decades to 100's of peer reviews.
The author is a geologist, not a nuclear physicist. Dr. Robert Gentry is talking about nuclear physics. Also, Dr. Robert Gentry replied to his website post: http://www.halos.com/faq-replies/creati ... efuted.htm
You will serve yourself well to do more research. But you won't, Why? Evolutionist don't want the truth, they believe with blind faith. Even when evolution has been proven wrong, they don't want to hear it...

I read both (also pretty sure the bible says to treat others as you would have them treat you - pretty sure that includes condescension, a simple apology will be fine).

What that article I linked shows is that you have not supplied irrefutable evidence. You have supplied a theory that is simply that. There are, I am sure, many possible ways in which those halos could have been created, and for all I know right one could have been god creating the earth 6000 odd years ago. However they are theories (much like you accuse evolution of). I just ask you alter your english slightly in respect of this (I give you belief/knowledge respect, I just ask the same in return) - that is your belief is based on a theory.
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Re: Post Any Evidence For God Here

Postby john9blue on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:53 am

crispybits wrote:
We have posted full rebutals to pretty much everything they've brought several times over. The fact they keep repeating flawed arguments over and over and over again means it's not a debate it's a bunch of idiots sticking their fingers in their ears shouting "la la la we're right and we can't hear you!!!". After the 5th or 6th time they post the same thing that's been demonstrated false so many times already the appropriate response is sarcasm and mockery.

and people wonder why nobody likes contrarians.....


either you've addressed all his points and there's no reason to post in the thread anymore, or you haven't addressed his points and you should do so. anything else is intellectual dishonesty (which is my #1 pet peeve). i know the mods don't really care about what goes on here (particularly on your end) but if you want intelligent people to take you seriously then you shouldn't post garbage.
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