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BigBallinStalin wrote:
If these insignificant improvements do not lead to profitability, then those resources (thought, time, labor, etc.) which were spent on improving insignificant aspects were wasted--relative to pursuing better opportunities. Do you feel that CC is pursuing the better opportunities?
BigBallinStalin wrote: Would the resources spent on [insert superficial improvement here] have been better spent on more important features?
Do the decision-makers even know how to determine which is more important?
Are they satisfying the right groups at the right time with the highest priority?
How do they know?
BigBallinStalin wrote: Although a few customers may have been satisfied with marginal improvements, does that correct the current trend of decline?
Does that bring CC to the path of long-run profitability? (Is that even the goal of the owner, or is he hoping to sell soon and be done with it?)
If these insignificant improvements do not lead to profitability, then those resources (thought, time, labor, etc.) which were spent on improving insignificant aspects were wasted--relative to pursuing better opportunities. Do you feel that CC is pursuing the better opportunities?
Funkyterrance wrote:I honestly think that the important thing is that they are trying. You could spend all day debating which updates are going to be the most profitable/cost effective for the long run but until you actually try some out it's all just conjecture. Eventually you have to get your hands dirty and do some wading in order to have any kind of idea what really will make a positive difference and I feel that's just what they're doing. They may make some mistakes/non-optimal choices but if they pay attention to the resultant trends I think they will prevail.
BigBallinStalin wrote:I hope so, but I think they lack the know-how--even though there's plenty of ideas on the board. Instead of your utopian vision, I look forward to a hallowed-out CC of 30 grumpy, regular forum-goers. In the desolate corner of cyberspace, their arguments would escape the notice of those in the RL. Then over the years, they slowly wither away, but their posts shall remain as incomplete reflections of their souls--both tortured and misunderstood.
I can dream, can't I, FT?
Funkyterrance wrote:I honestly think that the important thing is that they are trying. You could spend all day debating which updates are going to be the most profitable/cost effective for the long run but until you actually try some out it's all just conjecture. Eventually you have to get your hands dirty and do some wading in order to have any kind of idea what really will make a positive difference and I feel that's just what they're doing. They may make some mistakes/non-optimal choices but if they pay attention to the resultant trends I think they will prevail.
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Dukasaur wrote:Public interest is fickle, and despite propaganda to the contrary, marketing is more of an art than a science. A majority of people in focus groups preferred New Coke over old, but when released to the public, it was a legendary flop. Ultimately sometimes the only way forward is to just put one foot in front of the other and see what happens.
greenoaks wrote:not long after the site changed hands the new owner pm'd me saying he'd really like to hear my thoughts on how to improve Tournaments. i felt honoured so i clicked reply and gotThe webmaster does not accept messages.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Funkyterrance wrote:I honestly think that the important thing is that they are trying. You could spend all day debating which updates are going to be the most profitable/cost effective for the long run but until you actually try some out it's all just conjecture. Eventually you have to get your hands dirty and do some wading in order to have any kind of idea what really will make a positive difference and I feel that's just what they're doing. They may make some mistakes/non-optimal choices but if they pay attention to the resultant trends I think they will prevail.
I hope so, but I think they lack the know-how--even though there's plenty of ideas on the board. Instead of your utopian vision, I look forward to a hallowed-out CC of 30 grumpy, regular forum-goers. In the desolate corner of cyberspace, their arguments would escape the notice of those in the RL. Then over the years, they slowly wither away, but their posts shall remain as incomplete reflections of their souls--both tortured and misunderstood.
I can dream, can't I, FT?
Funkyterrance wrote:I know it's much more fun to bitch but has anyone noticed that there have been some pretty thoughtful improvements to CC lately? The quick edit thing, the changes to the games waiting list, etc..
To risk not being in fashion, I would have to say CC has become more fun for me in the past month or so. Perhaps some credit is due to the new leadership? I'm thinking these changes are a sign of good things to come.
Woodruff wrote:Meh...do we still have relatively-simple 6-year-old suggestions-that-are-really-bug-fixes uncoded? Can't say I'm that impressed.
greenoaks wrote:not long after the site changed hands the new owner pm'd me saying he'd really like to hear my thoughts on how to improve Tournaments. i felt honoured so i clicked reply and gotThe webmaster does not accept messages.
ljex wrote:greenoaks wrote:not long after the site changed hands the new owner pm'd me saying he'd really like to hear my thoughts on how to improve Tournaments. i felt honoured so i clicked reply and gotThe webmaster does not accept messages.
That is likely old coding from Lackattack's webmaster days. It may be that the current webmaster is not even aware that this is an issue. I would suggest sending rds a reply.
The fact that the new webmaster even asked is a step up from lack though
Woodruff wrote:Funkyterrance wrote:I know it's much more fun to bitch but has anyone noticed that there have been some pretty thoughtful improvements to CC lately? The quick edit thing, the changes to the games waiting list, etc..
To risk not being in fashion, I would have to say CC has become more fun for me in the past month or so. Perhaps some credit is due to the new leadership? I'm thinking these changes are a sign of good things to come.
Meh...do we still have relatively-simple 6-year-old suggestions-that-are-really-bug-fixes uncoded? Can't say I'm that impressed.
Funkyterrance wrote:I know it's much more fun to bitch but has anyone noticed that there have been some pretty thoughtful improvements to CC lately? The quick edit thing, the changes to the games waiting list, etc..
To risk not being in fashion, I would have to say CC has become more fun for me in the past month or so. Perhaps some credit is due to the new leadership? I'm thinking these changes are a sign of good things to come.
Gillipig wrote:Funkyterrance wrote:I know it's much more fun to bitch but has anyone noticed that there have been some pretty thoughtful improvements to CC lately? The quick edit thing, the changes to the games waiting list, etc..
To risk not being in fashion, I would have to say CC has become more fun for me in the past month or so. Perhaps some credit is due to the new leadership? I'm thinking these changes are a sign of good things to come.
No one is as out of fashion as you funky, you have nothing to fear. The bottom is already yours, you can't sink any lower mate.
macbone wrote:Indeed! Very newbie friendly!
I just hope BOB + Clickies are back soon. They seem to be allergic to site updates. =)
Dukasaur wrote:macbone wrote:Indeed! Very newbie friendly!
I just hope BOB + Clickies are back soon. They seem to be allergic to site updates. =)
Yeah, every update requires a BOB update as well. Still, a day or two without BOB is a small price to pay to be getting some site upgrades.
Dukasaur wrote:macbone wrote:Indeed! Very newbie friendly!
I just hope BOB + Clickies are back soon. They seem to be allergic to site updates. =)
Yeah, every update requires a BOB update as well. Still, a day or two without BOB is a small price to pay to be getting some site upgrades.
AAFitz wrote:Dukasaur wrote:macbone wrote:Indeed! Very newbie friendly!
I just hope BOB + Clickies are back soon. They seem to be allergic to site updates. =)
Yeah, every update requires a BOB update as well. Still, a day or two without BOB is a small price to pay to be getting some site upgrades.
But one turn without clickable maps isnt.
I just joined a few games too, and the site click maps is so bad I dont even want to play them. How can they f*ck something so perfect up? Seriously.
Dukasaur wrote:AAFitz wrote:Dukasaur wrote:macbone wrote:Indeed! Very newbie friendly!
I just hope BOB + Clickies are back soon. They seem to be allergic to site updates. =)
Yeah, every update requires a BOB update as well. Still, a day or two without BOB is a small price to pay to be getting some site upgrades.
But one turn without clickable maps isnt.
I just joined a few games too, and the site click maps is so bad I dont even want to play them. How can they f*ck something so perfect up? Seriously.
I've experimented with using the clickies and I always go back to the pull-downs in the end, so I honestly don't know what the big deal about clickies is. I know some people swear by them, but unless you're playing freestyle speed then it seems that spending a few extra seconds to use the pull-downs is worth it, for being able to choose the exact number of troops that you want to advance instead of only choosing between advance none and advance all.
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