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IcePack wrote:Noon (ish) update. All but 3 rankings received.
Waiting on:
MB
TNC
LEG
Keefie wrote:Well that's thrown up some surprise rankings.
ACE (Empire) who've won this for the last two years only 4th, ATL 9th and Fall 2nd !!!!!!!
chapcrap wrote:Keefie wrote:Well that's thrown up some surprise rankings.
ACE (Empire) who've won this for the last two years only 4th, ATL 9th and Fall 2nd !!!!!!!
I agree. I didn't rank them, but I definitely would have made ACE first and Fallen was out in the first round last year. Probably would have but them 5-6 I think. Good luck to all.
IcePack wrote:chapcrap wrote:Keefie wrote:Well that's thrown up some surprise rankings.
ACE (Empire) who've won this for the last two years only 4th, ATL 9th and Fall 2nd !!!!!!!
I agree. I didn't rank them, but I definitely would have made ACE first and Fallen was out in the first round last year. Probably would have but them 5-6 I think. Good luck to all.
I also agree, I ranked both ACE and ATL higher than they ended up. But in the end, I see some pretty interesting match ups in the future
Keefie wrote:I totally agree Chap. FYI here are my rankings.
TNC - 11
MD - 12
KNT - 18
MB - 17
VVV - 19
TFFS - 13
FALL - 5
ATN - 15
FISO - 16
WAR - 9
PIG - 6
ACE - 1
KORT - 2
ID - 4
OTP - 7
ATL - 3
OSA - 8
LEG - 10
SOH - 14
chapcrap wrote:Keefie wrote:I totally agree Chap. FYI here are my rankings.
TNC - 11
MD - 12
KNT - 18
MB - 17
VVV - 19
TFFS - 13
FALL - 5
ATN - 15
FISO - 16
WAR - 9
PIG - 6
ACE - 1
KORT - 2
ID - 4
OTP - 7
ATL - 3
OSA - 8
LEG - 10
SOH - 14
You missed a clan somewhere... I can't really argue much with your rankings.
It'll all be sorted out in a few months though!
Keefie wrote: However, I'm left scratching my head at how some Clan Leaders worked out their rankings.
Keefie wrote:Well that's thrown up some surprise rankings.
ACE (Empire) who've won this for the last two years only 4th, ATL 9th and Fall 2nd !!!!!!!
You must rank the clans in order of best to last for 1 vs 1 talents.
Leehar wrote:I can't be too surprised since I imagine a few folks may just have copied the F400 rankings verbatim, where we're 'unranked'.
Leehar wrote:Keefie wrote:Well that's thrown up some surprise rankings.
ACE (Empire) who've won this for the last two years only 4th, ATL 9th and Fall 2nd !!!!!!!
While I am somewhat disappointed, I can't be too surprised since I imagine a few folks may just have copied the F400 rankings verbatim, where we're 'unranked'. Heck we were ranked 12th in the BG's Coaches Poll which isn't really that great an indicator of our level either, but it's just how things go sometimes, and what the different perspectives offer.
Leehar wrote:It would be great to see a standard deviation like how Chuuuuck used to do with the power rankings, since I expect we'd have a fairly large differential between the guys who ranked us first like you, and others who left us right nearer the bottom as a side-effect of the new 'dynamic' :/
Genoke wrote:Strongest
KORT
ACE
ID
OSA
MD
TNC
TFFS
FALL
OTP
PIG
WAR
ATN
LEG
HH
FISO
KNT
SOH
MB
VVV
Weakest
Genoke wrote:Genoke wrote:Strongest
KORT
ACE
ID
OSA
MD
TNC
TFFS
FALL
OTP
PIG
WAR
ATN
LEG
HH
FISO
KNT
SOH
MB
VVV
Weakest
I mainly used F400 too and took notice of former 1v1 clan challenge:
and added a bit of my intuition...
Keefie wrote:You obviously don't look at current wars. HH are thrashing the pants off of ATN, but you rank them higher
ViperOverLord wrote:Keefie wrote:You obviously don't look at current wars. HH are thrashing the pants off of ATN, but you rank them higher
Not to compare the two clans; I'll just make the philosophical point that clan wars are not the same as 1 v 1 gaming. I felt like my clan was the best 1 v 1 clan going into last year (if not top 3). Because we were all great 1 v 1 players who formed a clan and that was our background. We beat FALLEN and minus some tough breaks, I thought we would have beaten Empire too. Despite our great 1 v 1 records, we were seeded like 14 or something b/c we had little prestige as a clan. The disconnect happens, but as this event continues and precedents are established, hopefully there will be less of that.
As for this year, I haven't examined it as closely. I know we've been playing a lot more team games and I don't know if there's been some drop-off in our 1 v 1 games either via departures or a lack of playing 1 v 1 games as much. I just knew going into last year, we were a frontrunner and nobody else (or few else) even knew it and that was reflected in the seedings.
But, to circle back to my original point, a clan can be ranked low and have good to great 1 v 1 players and therefore can beat clans they may normally not beat.
ViperOverLord wrote:1. The Coaches poll voters are self appointed? Not at all. Every clan is entitled to one representative. That's perfectly fair. And KORT if I recall correctly, does not have a representative. Why? Are they protesting the legitimacy of the poll? I don't know. But, they have every right to participate if they choose.
ViperOverLord wrote:2. You don't need power rankings based upon formulas. That's exactly what the f-400 is. The coach's poll gauges perception and therefore can account for potential discrepancies or shortcomings in the system. I for one, like that. It doesn't mean it's without biases and therefore it can always be argued that it's flawed. Nonetheless, it's good to know how your peers fancy you.
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