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BigBallinStalin wrote:As long as everyone agreed to the delaying or speeding up of a game, then I don't see how his method is illegitimate nor illegal.
After reading the OP, I don't see any good arguments from the anti-TheCrown crowd.
BigBallinStalin wrote:As long as everyone agreed to the delaying or speeding up of a game, then I don't see how his method is illegitimate nor illegal.
After reading the OP, I don't see any good arguments from the anti-TheCrown crowd.
TheCrown wrote:The story of the 3 day conqueror.
Hello everyone, ........
........
In the end, I was reset, which I disagree with, but life goes on. I just wanted to post this for something to read for those who were curious about how things went down. I did NOT post this for more arguement or negative posts. So if you feel you have something else to say, say it to someone else, because I didn't even read all the garbage on all the posts, wasn't worth my time.
Peace,
Randall
spiesr wrote:What TheCrown was "convicted" of was "Colluding with other players to artificially manipulate the scoring system." What he says he did here pretty much sounds like that.
HardAttack wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:As long as everyone agreed to the delaying or speeding up of a game, then I don't see how his method is illegitimate nor illegal.
After reading the OP, I don't see any good arguments from the anti-TheCrown crowd.TheCrown wrote:The story of the 3 day conqueror.
Hello everyone, ........
........
In the end, I was reset, which I disagree with, but life goes on. I just wanted to post this for something to read for those who were curious about how things went down. I did NOT post this for more arguement or negative posts. So if you feel you have something else to say, say it to someone else, because I didn't even read all the garbage on all the posts, wasn't worth my time.
Peace,
Randall
I really dont even read all the garbage on the OP since it isnt any worth of my time;
this is said,
should i take any serious the any story that may come anytime from anyone ?
BGtheBrain wrote:LAL
Vote thecrown
TheCrown wrote:So, on to something I thought might entertain me, give me something to do, and prove a mathematical calculation of mass games that I had thought of for some time.
If I saw I was losing a game, I would take the turns faster. If I was winning, I would take my turn slower. An experiment of sorts...
agentcom wrote:Well my quick search makes me think the post is a hoax. That and normally one would provide a link to such damning evidence if indeed it was real.
Swifte wrote:agentcom wrote:Well my quick search makes me think the post is a hoax. That and normally one would provide a link to such damning evidence if indeed it was real.
I'm sure it's from their clan forums from back when Crown was in TNC... so a link would not do you much good.
2dimes wrote:Uh, so? It's a title on here. It's not the hope diamond.
Jippd wrote:
To those of you who don't get that what he did was wrong:
If this was allowed anyone could become conqueror easily and it would only require them teaming up with 1 friend.
You team up with one friend and you guys create 800 1 v 1 games on doodle earth. You guys play with a "tournament rule and setting" that you will play out all the games and give them your all. Once you get an opponent down to 1 region though all game play stops and players only deploy and end turn. Once all 800 games are decided and one of the two players only has 1 region then it comes time for the players to cash in there games and each can enjoy becoming conqueror easily.
Say the games go 50/50 and players are at 2000-2500 points.
Player 1 finishes their 400 games that they have won and they jump up in score to conqueror and sit there for a day or two or whatever.
Meanwhile player 2 and player 1 just keep deploying and ending turn in the rest of player 2s "won" games.
Then comes the time for player 2 to make his run to the top. Player 2 cashes in all the games he has as "wins" and makes his run to the scoreboard and then gets his conqueror medal and sits at the top for however long they want.
Now imagine this method being multiplied between lots of people, with as many games as they want. This would ruin the integrity of the scoreboard and does not show a players true skill level. Many players value the scoreboard as an overall ranking system. Though it is not perfect that does not mean we should attempt to make it any less perfect by allowing behavior like this too occur.
If you still don't see the problem with what he did then I would like to direct you to learning about common sense.
I think what TheCrown did was ingenious, but that doesn't mean that it was right or that he didn't deserve punishment. There are many criminals that have "brilliant" plans but that doesn't mean what they do is right just because it required a level of intelligence and planning to accomplish.
Jippd wrote:I don't think you can say the post is not a valid piece of evidence. If anything it shows that this plan was premeditated by the crown for a very long time to me.
If the post was in the TNC forum maybe he couldn't get the TNC cohorts to go along with his plan. This explains him starting a new clan and inviting new players that were desperate for attention and being welcomed into a new clan. He then persuaded these unknowing accomplices to help him fulfill his dream of making it to conqueror by manipulating the average system of game play. These low ranked players who barely understand clan life surely don't understand the intricate workings of the game and didn't fully grasp what the crown was planning to do in terms of manipulating the score board by holding games for a very long time in order to finish them in rapid succession and run up the scoreboard.
Think of it like a gang. People are desperate to join and feel "welcome" and part of the "brotherhood". This wanting to belong often leads people to blindly doing whatever their "leader" or "higher ups" want them to do.
Part of me thinks The Crown helped sell this to his clan members by saying they could jump up in points until he made his conqueror run. This would be due to the fact that they could gather their wins early while he held off on finishing his wins til he was ready to make his run.
I would be really interested to see the threads that MOB posted the image from and the thread that is in TheCrowns clan forum but I know that will never happen. I'm sure a lot of the truth lies inside those threads.
To those of you who don't get that what he did was wrong:
If this was allowed anyone could become conqueror easily and it would only require them teaming up with 1 friend.
You team up with one friend and you guys create 800 1 v 1 games on doodle earth. You guys play with a "tournament rule and setting" that you will play out all the games and give them your all. Once you get an opponent down to 1 region though all game play stops and players only deploy and end turn. Once all 800 games are decided and one of the two players only has 1 region then it comes time for the players to cash in there games and each can enjoy becoming conqueror easily.
Say the games go 50/50 and players are at 2000-2500 points.
Player 1 finishes their 400 games that they have won and they jump up in score to conqueror and sit there for a day or two or whatever.
Meanwhile player 2 and player 1 just keep deploying and ending turn in the rest of player 2s "won" games.
Then comes the time for player 2 to make his run to the top. Player 2 cashes in all the games he has as "wins" and makes his run to the scoreboard and then gets his conqueror medal and sits at the top for however long they want.
Now imagine this method being multiplied between lots of people, with as many games as they want. This would ruin the integrity of the scoreboard and does not show a players true skill level. Many players value the scoreboard as an overall ranking system. Though it is not perfect that does not mean we should attempt to make it any less perfect by allowing behavior like this too occur.
If you still don't see the problem with what he did then I would like to direct you to learning about common sense.
I think what TheCrown did was ingenious, but that doesn't mean that it was right or that he didn't deserve punishment. There are many criminals that have "brilliant" plans but that doesn't mean what they do is right just because it required a level of intelligence and planning to accomplish.
BigBallinStalin wrote:
That's a great point, and I don't have much of an argument against it; however, it only justifies punishing the copy-cats of thecrown's strategy.
That, and there's this very vague line of legitimacy which most of us cross. Many of us play particularly complicated maps and settings in order to run circles around most of our opponents. This is collusion with other teammates in manipulating the scoreboard. Granted, the impact is much less--unless one plays many team games, I still don't see a difference between this 'legit' play and thecrown's tactics except in degree, but in kind both are equally illegitimate, in the sense that some call thecrown's strategy illegitmate while neglecting the cheapness of their own strategies. That's mainly why I find most opponents of thecrown to be hypocrites.
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