jak111 wrote:Whether you like it or not pcm, I am killing someone tonight, so who do you think is lying? (besides me which you keep pushing).
I answered your question.
You're right, you got two investigations, very convenient for you is it not? You're acting like Anark at this point. He's doing the exact same thing to you as you're doing to me and yet you find him odd. Only difference is you post more than he does.
So with you both doing the same thing, how do you think I should shoot between you two? Both of you are using the "well I'm pretty damn clear" card as if in Mafia it is ever 100% to everyone else. Right now we're going under the assumptions.
I'm not basing things on my gut, I'm basing things on facts that have been submitted and the evidence that backs it up. You have none. You can't even explain how your whole role works and hold back pertinent info unless pressed. How can I trust you to know where the faction lines lie?
And yes, it is convenient. Thank you for that, btw.

You're working very hard to discredit what your were very certain of earlier today. I find that troubling. Or are you deciding not to believe MP again? I can't tell.
You want me to flip a vampire, well if I shoot you tonight, think I can flip one? You're right, I haven't hit one once so far, but that's bullshit logic and you know it is. Mafia go entire games without vig or anyone else hitting even one.
Nope. That being the case, by all means, shoot me. Get yourself lynched, lower my blood pressure, put this wretched game out of its misery.
One major thing that is counting against you this game is your tunneling. If you want me dead, I'll help hang myself tomorrow if I can't flip a vampire, but until then you aren't even trying to open up to the possibility that I am what I say I am and I can't do my job without town helping to lynch the right people.
Then you ought to have done your job. Jmac stands out as a painful and telling mark of your scumminess. You harped on him for three days and for three nights have chosen not to shoot him. You are only as good as your record, and your record as a mafia hunter and a vampire hunter do not coalesce.
Anark's posts are not helpful in anything I'm trying to do for town, but to say yours are, I'd be lying. I have to pick between the two of you in HOPES that I hit the original vampire if Jmac is not it. So tell me besides investigation and all of that, why should I not kill you over Anark? You're both doing the exact same thing, except he's tunneling you and you're tunneling me.
I have asked you time and again why things are so complicated with you when no other claimed PR exhibits such complexity, and why you shot who when. These are questions that need asking. Nark just goes with his gut. And you're saying my contributions aren't helpful? At least two others see the logic in my thought process, so I'd beg to differ. I'm going on evidence I can see in front of me. And again, you have none. I'm done making deals. If you think you can act scummy and get away with it, you're wrong.
I think I forgot to reply to something about the Jonty lynch a bit ago. You pushed JUST as hard for his head. Anark didn't. Another thing to count against you.
And? He was scummy. I saw a connection. I went with it. What do you want?
Ever since MP claimed, you've been sucking up to him hoping to control his vote.
Well, he actually did his job correctly and caught a scum. I still see no vampires...
So. Why should I not shoot you and shoot Anark instead? Give me the reason before we go into the night if someone votes between now and tomorrow. Unless you wish me to shoot "blindly" again.
(Note: I was leaning more towards shooting Anark actually before you just got to go on and on about me. Now I'm not so sure, it makes sense for a vampire to tunnel me, hell for all I know vampires are just single guy trying to survive and not even anti-town, I'm just assuming they are as mafia are dead and the game is still going).
What answer did you think I was going to give? What answer do you think I'm going to give now? Forget what I think, killing me is a hard sell with anyone else. You're bending and breaking a lot of rules (mind you, you set some of them) to force a pretext to shoot me. I'll remind you that you were about to go after Nark before I made my initial post.
I'd like to point out that being "protected" from vampires by garlic lines up in no way with your speculation there. Your lies fail you. That's why I'm valuable. I talk. I read (despite your boorish accusations to the contrary). You only think you should shoot me because I'm a threat to you. And you're right. As long as you're scummy, I'm a threat. As long as there are no dead vampires, I'm a threat. I hold you accountable, and that makes me dangerous. You have to deal with that. If I die, let my death be the harbinger of yours.