Deliberately missing turns. Clever strategy or cheap tactic?

[adban]

I'm lying.

[stahrgazer]

If you say you have never missed a turn on purpose, you have never played Nuke or you are lying.

You're wrong.

I had a game where I had the choice.

I chose to sacrifice the game points to preserve my self respect; I took the turn and nuked myself. For me, that was the right choice.

[Gweeedo]

If you say you have never missed a turn on purpose, you have never played Nuke or you are lying.

You're wrong.

I had a game where I had the choice.

I chose to sacrifice the game points to preserve my self respect; I took the turn and nuked myself. For me, that was the right choice.

Most admirable.

Taking your turn is one thing, ending it is another.
Want to hear my excuse for losing?
I won a game; nuking myself, in order to prevent others from getting points (terminator)...I win!
Nobody is going to know the difference, whether by you missing a turn on purpose or CC (lag, other game, not caring, strategy etc..) missing it for you.

I have missed plenty of turns (games) due to lag or not getting a notice that my game was up.
You got to admit, it is funny as hell when somebody runs out of time and is not able to end his turn...Nuke is the opposite...all in good fun.

Play to win, or lose.

[macbone]

Gweedo, stahrgazer has a 53% win percentage. I think it's safe to say she plays to win. =)

And add me to the list of players who has never deliberately missed or failed to end a turn. Exploiting loopholes isn't my idea of fun, but different strokes for different folks, eh?

[iAmCaffeine]

I'm not disagreeing with the premise macbone, but win percentage is an incredibly pointless profile statistic.

[Gweeedo]

Gweedo, stahrgazer has a 53% win percentage. I think it's safe to say she plays to win. =)

And add me to the list of players who has never deliberately missed or failed to end a turn. Exploiting loopholes isn't my idea of fun, but different strokes for different folks, eh?

Yes, I think most CC players feel the same as you...that does not stop them from playing it.
Risk is not a gentleman's game.
Where do you get this loophole?
In keeping with the original game of risk, (Rule book) if you missed picking up a card at the end of your turn, you missed out.
I don't know the crowd you played with when all we had was the board game.
It is all about manipulating the rules (every game ever made)!!!
In RISK; Sometimes you would choose to miss pulling your card, only to have one handed to you by your opponent (opponent being the guy who turns in set after you).
Other times you would go (your turn) as fast and as soon as you could before the other guy realized he did not pick up a card...Ha, Hah.

I understand that you are able to pick and choose whom you play against, in CC.
I am certain that if you find yourself in a 1vs1 tourney against players who use such tactics, you would hold true to your honor and not follow their lead (rule).

I rarely (if ever) miss ending my turn...usually forget to stop myself from pressing the button.
I have played against people who miss their entire turn, it is an OK strategy.
Being able to thwart off such tactics, gives me a greater sense of victory.
Makes me want to beat them all the more.
I can play with it or without it, makes no difference to me...

Why play at a disadvantage?
Learn to adapt
If you can't beat them, join them.
It is all part of the game (in the rules).

[macbone]

Eh, Caffeine, perhaps by itself, but if I see a win percentage over 50%, I'm impressed. I'd assume with that kind of win percentage, a player is playing almost exclusively two-team or 1v1 games, but against equal competition on a variety of maps and settings, that's pretty impressive.

Whew, stahrgazer, that's a lot of bot games. Do those count toward win percentage? =)

[iAmCaffeine]

Bot games do count towards win percentage.

[Gweeedo]

I have noticed, it is the lifers (long time residence, officers) that seem to hate this ploy.
Not just in this post, but every post that has ever come up about said topic.

Why is that...Maybe because they like to fight in pitched battles only?

Example: Escalating spoils, Freestyle, Classic you have incorporated house rules in some of these games; not because it is the winning strategy (as I was told) but because it makes the game more balanced (my belief).
If you want to keep your so called ''honor'' intact, go ahead and lose the game, but don't bitch about it when others (in WAR) don't play by ''your'' rules.
This is WAR after all.

[Alchemistery]

Hi all

Missing turns is sometimes unavoidable but is incredibly frustrating and annoying to other players.

It is made worse by those who delberately use missing turns as a strategy for gaining defferred troops, we have all experienced this.

I previously tried to highlight this issue and cc said there was nothing they can do?

However i maintain the way forward is that when a turn is missed any troops due should be randomly allocated by the game on that turn , that way there are no deferred troops and the genuine turn misser still gets their troops.

It also means the non genuine miss turner has no way of knowing where the troops will be allocated and will gain no benefit from missing the turn .

This should at least eradicate the strategy element some mistakingly believe is part of the game , when we all know the reality, deliberate miss turning, many consider is bad gamesmansip and cheating, and does ruin the game for many people on a consistently and at the same time prolongs matches especially if its a 24 hr game

peace - alchemistery

[owenshooter]

I have noticed, it is the lifers (long time residence, officers) that seem to hate this ploy.
Not just in this post, but every post that has ever come up about said topic.

not true... i mostly play doubles and i LOVE when someone misses a turn... why? you attack the hell out of them for two turns and they lose whatever little advantage they may have gained by decimating their numbers... i do think the rule should be changed to 3 total missed turns and you are out or something along those lines... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir™

[Gweeedo]

This is in response to; Community Discussion #2* - New Deadbeat Rule?

I did not want to bombard a thread that has little to do with deferred troops, I already bombarded this thread so I will respond here.

For those of you who believe deferred troops are totally irrelevant, why is it that so many players hate deferred troops?

Deferred troops might not display any kind of advantage in the games that you play,
a newb might see it differently.
Deferred troops can be advantageous (against a newb), the same holds true when you hold back from turning in a set (flat rate).

I have played games where a player is on the verge of missing his turn and I am thinking, it would probably be in his best interest not to make a move at this time.
There have been turns where I would have been much better off if I had not gone at all.

I have never had the patience to miss a turn.
If you believe there is no advantage in such a maneuver, you are leaving yourself open.
Not only that, you will never be able to exploit using such tactics.

So many different game options, this tactic could rule the day if somebody was lame (taking the time) enough to exploit it...you never know.

I have played enough war games; never say never when a War game is involved...you will get smoked!

[rhp 1]

if it's within the rules, it's fine.. plain and simple... calling it cheap is a waste of time.

[Gweeedo]

if it's within the rules, it's fine.. plain and simple... calling it cheap is a waste of time.

This is in response to topic; Community Discussion #2* - New Deadbeat Rule?
Some players think that missing a turn is irrelevant ''never'' ever giving advantage to players who use it.
For those of you who believe deferred troops are totally irrelevant, why is it that so many players hate deferred troops?

Deferred troops might not display any kind of advantage in the games that you play,
a newb might see it differently.
Deferred troops can be advantageous (against a newb); the same holds true when you hold back from turning in a set (flat rate)...
A player that chooses to mis multiple turns in an assassin (no spoils) game can be most effective.

I have played games where a player is on the verge of missing his turn and I am thinking, it would probably be in his best interest not to make a move at this time.
There have been turns where I would have been much better off if I had not gone at all.

I have never had the patience to miss a turn.
If you believe there is no advantage in such a maneuver you are leaving yourself open
not only that you will never be able to exploit using such tactics.

Sooo many different game options, this tactic could rule the day if somebody was lame (taking the time) enough to exploit it...you never know.

I have played enough war games to know; never say never when a game is on the line...you will get smoked!

My point being, missing a turn on purpose can be advantageous, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise.