Serbia wrote:I'm right handed, and I use my fork in my left hand, knife in the right. Why? So I can knife motherfuckers who mess* with me while I eat.
Bollocks.
*"Mess" can refer to, but is not limited to: talk to, look at, annoy, be in the same room as, be in the same state as, breathe, talk funny, talk, be relatively alive, look funny, look not hot, exist, forget to offer me a drink, offer me a drink I don't want, ask to try my food, chew with their mouth open, chew, be human, etc.
well you just do like most people do. It's absolutely impossible to cut meat for me, as a right handed, with the fork on the left knife on the right. I did notice that some right handed people have the same "problem". Although technically it's way easier no to have to swap cutelry each time you have to cut a chunk of meat, you impractical bastard.
You do realize that I said I cut meat, as a right handed, with the fork in my left hand, knife in the right. Right?? I don't swap hands.
Bollocks.
???? i said that I CAN'T cut that way. The fork is ALWAYS in the right hand for me.
If you don't swap and the fork is in the left hand all the time, sorry to say buddy but you are not right handed by the way!
mrswdk wrote:Pretty sure proper etiquette is fork in the left hand, knife in the right hand, never swap.
not true. If you have only a fork or a spoon in hand, of course you can use your "natural" hand in proper etiquette. Do you think etiquette is a TV game show or something?
betiko wrote:If you have only a fork or a spoon in hand, of course you can use your "natural" hand in proper etiquette
The only reason I can think of to be holding a fork but no knife is because you have put down the knife in order to swap your fork into your right hand and start shovelling your food down your throat at maximum speed, which hardly sounds like good table manners.
And of course, proper etiquette within the boundaries of civilization is chopsticks in the right hand, held about 3/4 of the way up, using your pointing finger and thumb to pinch the top chopstick onto your unmoving bottom chopstick, knife and fork on the shelf at IKEA or in the bin where they belong.
betiko wrote:If you have only a fork or a spoon in hand, of course you can use your "natural" hand in proper etiquette
The only reason I can think of to be holding a fork but no knife is because you have put down the knife in order to swap your fork into your right hand and start shovelling your food down your throat, which hardly sounds like good table manners.
And of course, proper etiquette within the boundaries of civilization is chopsticks in the right hand, held about 3/4 of the way up, using your pointing finger and thumb to pinch the top chopstick onto your unmoving bottom chopstick, knife and fork on the shelf at IKEA or in the bin where they belong.
I use the chopsticks like 1/3rd down. No way for me to hold them and be accurate holding them as high as real asian people.
And there are plenty of food you can eat with just a fork or a spoon. Like would you really roll spaghettis on the fork with your left hand if you are right handed? That is just something my brain and my left hand are unable to do. i really use my left hand only for actions that require 2 hands, otherwise it's a pretty useless hand. I'd trade it for a second right hand any day!
betiko wrote:If you have only a fork or a spoon in hand, of course you can use your "natural" hand in proper etiquette
The only reason I can think of to be holding a fork but no knife is because you have put down the knife in order to swap your fork into your right hand and start shovelling your food down your throat at maximum speed, which hardly sounds like good table manners.
And of course, proper etiquette within the boundaries of civilization is chopsticks in the right hand, held about 3/4 of the way up, using your pointing finger and thumb to pinch the top chopstick onto your unmoving bottom chopstick, knife and fork on the shelf at IKEA or in the bin where they belong.
One of my favorite instances of bullshit in American literature is Jack Kerouac talking about how much more civilized the Asians are because they eat with chopsticks; therefore, they must delicately eat the food--one bit at a time. Americans are brutes because they have forks which allow them to shovel food in their mouths.
Jack has never seen Chinese or Japanese people eat with chopsticks. With the right kind of bowl, you can shovel in food real fast. Therefore, Jack Kerouac is a cunt.
betiko wrote:If you have only a fork or a spoon in hand, of course you can use your "natural" hand in proper etiquette
The only reason I can think of to be holding a fork but no knife is because you have put down the knife in order to swap your fork into your right hand and start shovelling your food down your throat at maximum speed, which hardly sounds like good table manners.
And of course, proper etiquette within the boundaries of civilization is chopsticks in the right hand, held about 3/4 of the way up, using your pointing finger and thumb to pinch the top chopstick onto your unmoving bottom chopstick, knife and fork on the shelf at IKEA or in the bin where they belong.
One of my favorite instances of bullshit in American literature is Jack Kerouac talking about how much more civilized the Asians are because they eat with chopsticks; therefore, they must delicately eat the food--one bit at a time. Americans are brutes because they have forks which allow them to shovel food in their mouths.
Jack has never seen Chinese or Japanese people eat with chopsticks. With the right kind of bowl, you can shovel in food real fast. Therefore, Jack Kerouac is a cunt.
When I need to use a knife, I usually swap hands. This is only because I was taught that this is proper etiquette; however, I thought it was dumb when I learned it and still do.
BigBallinStalin wrote:One of my favorite instances of bullshit in American literature is Jack Kerouac talking about how much more civilized the Asians are because they eat with chopsticks; therefore, they must delicately eat the food--one bit at a time. Americans are brutes because they have forks which allow them to shovel food in their mouths.
Jack has never seen Chinese or Japanese people eat with chopsticks. With the right kind of bowl, you can shovel in food real fast. Therefore, Jack Kerouac is a cunt.
Once or twice I have seen men with their lips almost touching the rim of the bowl, pushing their noodles into their mouths at an inhuman speed, but from their appearance I could tell they were not Beijing people.
Why switch hands? That's stupid. Hold fork in left hand, stab steak, cut with knife in right hand. If you're so uncoordinated you can't lift a fork to your mouth with your left hand, you've got problems.
Alternately, you could stop putting on airs and just use your hands for foods that don't require utensils.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Why switch hands? That's stupid. Hold fork in left hand, stab steak, cut with knife in right hand. If you're so uncoordinated you can't lift a fork to your mouth with your left hand, you've got problems.
Alternately, you could stop putting on airs and just use your hands for foods that don't require utensils.
-TG
So what reason can you see in etiquette that forces right handed to hold their fork in the left hand? It s just plain dumb. It doesn t make you eat less properly.
And yeah, you grew up being taught to hold the fork in the left, if you are right handed it will be probably easy for you to eat with the right, but for an untrained right handed eating with the left is really uncomfortable.
And as smegal says... I grew up in india where you whipe your ass with the left and eat with the right. There it s really offensive for a good reason to use your left for eating.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Why switch hands? That's stupid. Hold fork in left hand, stab steak, cut with knife in right hand. If you're so uncoordinated you can't lift a fork to your mouth with your left hand, you've got problems.
Alternately, you could stop putting on airs and just use your hands for foods that don't require utensils.
-TG
So what reason can you see in etiquette that forces right handed to hold their fork in the left hand? It s just plain dumb. It doesn t make you eat less properly.
And yeah, you grew up being taught to hold the fork in the left, if you are right handed it will be probably easy for you to eat with the right, but for an untrained right handed eating with the left is really uncomfortable.
And as smegal says... I grew up in india where you whipe your ass with the left and eat with the right. There it s really offensive for a good reason to use your left for eating.
Actually, I was taught the switch hands method, but I didn't like it. It's cumbersome. I don't really care about "proper etiquette," I'm an uncultured heathen.
I wipe with my right hand. I also wash my hands before eating.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Why switch hands? That's stupid. Hold fork in left hand, stab steak, cut with knife in right hand. If you're so uncoordinated you can't lift a fork to your mouth with your left hand, you've got problems.
Alternately, you could stop putting on airs and just use your hands for foods that don't require utensils.
-TG
So what reason can you see in etiquette that forces right handed to hold their fork in the left hand? It s just plain dumb. It doesn t make you eat less properly.
And yeah, you grew up being taught to hold the fork in the left, if you are right handed it will be probably easy for you to eat with the right, but for an untrained right handed eating with the left is really uncomfortable.
And as smegal says... I grew up in india where you whipe your ass with the left and eat with the right. There it s really offensive for a good reason to use your left for eating.
Actually, I was taught the switch hands method, but I didn't like it. It's cumbersome. I don't really care about "proper etiquette," I'm an uncultured heathen.
I wipe with my right hand. I also wash my hands before eating.
-TG
the difference is that in india people don't use toilet paper, they whipe with their bare hand; they also eat with their hands and often pick in the same dish. So even if you tell them you wash your hands and you actually do, there is just no way you will shovel your clean left hand in their food!
and what is the propper etiquette for left handed, to use their left for the fork or the right for the fork? From what I see most lef handed swap too and fork with the right.
KoolBak wrote:Never seen anyone hold silverware in a fist...hmmmm. I and everyone (Americans) I've eaten with use the pen-grip...Perhaps burrito-boy knows more Americans than I....?
Europeans I've eaten with hold the fork upside down however (inverted-pen?).
What do you mean by upside down? My fork's pits will look towards the plate if i m pinching stuff in the plate, and will look upwards if i m gathering stuff in the plate.
In other news, my question was a real question. Do you guys swap the fork from one hand to the other when you cut meat or not?
most don't.. but proper etiquette is to use the fork in left hand, knife in right hand, and then switch fork to the right hand to eat...
yes I agree it's proper etiquette, but I just physically can't. Just as I could hold a tennis racket with my left hand. And are you sure the majority don't swap hands in america?
In france it's really extremely rare not to swap.
it's extremely rare in America... I've seen it only a handful of times.. my mom does, but that's the only one I actually remembering doing that
KoolBak wrote:Never seen anyone hold silverware in a fist...hmmmm. I and everyone (Americans) I've eaten with use the pen-grip...Perhaps burrito-boy knows more Americans than I....?
Europeans I've eaten with hold the fork upside down however (inverted-pen?).
What do you mean by upside down? My fork's pits will look towards the plate if i m pinching stuff in the plate, and will look upwards if i m gathering stuff in the plate.
In other news, my question was a real question. Do you guys swap the fork from one hand to the other when you cut meat or not?
most don't.. but proper etiquette is to use the fork in left hand, knife in right hand, and then switch fork to the right hand to eat...
the difference is that in india people don't use toilet paper, they whipe with their bare hand
it's extremely rare in America... I've seen it only a handful of times.. my mom does, but that's the only one I actually remembering doing that
Metsfanmax wrote:Since it came up: men, hand-washing after using a restroom is not optional. I don't care what you were doing in there -- wash your hands. Please.
Metsfanmax wrote:Since it came up: men, hand-washing after using a restroom is not optional. I don't care what you were doing in there -- wash your hands. Please.
waste of water and paper/power.
I thought you were an environmentalist?
There are some guys who see life differently. They wash their hands before allowing themselves to touch the dick. Then don t wash their hands cause their dick is "clean"
