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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby owenshooter on Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:16 pm

Metsfanmax wrote: I do believe that if I weren't here, the Great Decline would immediately end.

no, no... i have already been squarely blamed for the decline.. don't go trying to horn in on my claim to fame...-Jésus noir
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Metsfanmax on Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:30 pm

All you've got is that you're a venereal disease. I've got #1 most annoying CC member.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby owenshooter on Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:12 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:All you've got is that you're a venereal disease. I've got #1 most annoying CC member.

but, it is true... however, stating a fact is still not as good as being pinpointed as the exact moment that CC began it's decline... the black jesus brought a plague upon CC... just ask Andy and OP... :D :D the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir
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Re: Is CC Declining?

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Endgame422 on Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:46 pm

Thanks williams.
What a stupid movie that you can't help but laughing at.
You got me.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby actoft on Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:45 pm

Don't you guys think it's because mainly that games have gone the way of apps. I mean I would probably play daily if there was an app on my phone but because it's become so complicated to do anything I'm not gonna bother with using chrome or safari on my phone or iPad.

This would explode I believe if there was an app. I love this game!

So the question ... Why no app??? (As if that's not been asked yet but I don't have an answer.)
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:19 am

actoft wrote:Don't you guys think it's because mainly that games have gone the way of apps. I mean I would probably play daily if there was an app on my phone but because it's become so complicated to do anything I'm not gonna bother with using chrome or safari on my phone or iPad.

This would explode I believe if there was an app. I love this game!

So the question ... Why no app??? (As if that's not been asked yet but I don't have an answer.)


Some random volunteer was working on an app for a while but they disappeared. I'd be surprised if bW doesn't have plans in the works though.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby _sabotage_ on Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:12 am

There was an app.

It wasn't very good. I think BW should partner with a decent app maker and go splitsies on profit. Loads of app makers who cross-advertise who are looking for ideas on apps everyday.

The app market will create a very different kind of user, but the old school can always use the site and many app folk would use it as well.

I would suspect that some recent changes: auto-resubscribe, raised prices, UI change, were meant to put CC in a better partnering position. With people on auto-resubscribe, it makes the user base appear committed, it allows BW to say that he has a core user base and a steady income flow despite what user numbers may indicate.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:06 pm

Endgame422 wrote:Thanks williams.
What a stupid movie that you can't help but laughing at.
You got me.


Ha!
yeah, it's just barely good enough to watch once, the second time is torture.

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby jsnyder748 on Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:21 am

I will single handedly revive Conquer Club if you let me change a few things. thanks. Then we can erase the decline from our brains and pretend to be CC zombies once more. It is an admittedly subtly plan, but it may just be crazy enough to work.

step 1:

Attract 12 year olds with an app in the itunes store.

Step 2:

Step back and pay close attention to the amount of new noob members. It will astound you.

step 3:

Teach them how to play risk. Albeit, the dummy version where they are told how to win 1v1 and flat rate games.

step 4:

Change the game searching criteria on the join a game tag to show the games that have been waiting the longest to the front. This will get them looking at who plays weird settings and maps to gain points from noobs.

step 5:

The noobs want to not be noobs anymore since every online twelve year olds goal in life is to not be a noob. They then become point hungry and look at the special games and weird maps the good players are playing such as a conquerer or the guy who has 20 games on the first page of "Join a game" and the rank of a brigadier.

step 6:

The noob learns from those who manipulate the system. But, there are those that are much smarter than the average human and can understand complex maps and new strategies that take the luck of the dice out of the game. The noob loses for a long time before finding what they are good at. They play more games and all the smart manipulators of the game stay ahead of the curve and challenge other members to do the same thing.

step 7:

membership grows. competition grows. Conquer Club once again flourishes. I continue to pwn noobs.

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I was taught all I know by copying and improving on others staregies. I taught 3 conquerers how to play the game, but never had the discipline myself to get to conquerer. Now the system is backwards. No one can go anywhere or do anything special and the new members see that and wonder what happened to a website with 30,000 users. Conquer Club is dead and it seems so old to me now. Its good to be back.

Game 12971764 is the last game on page 58 of join a game.

My closeest game to this one that predates that game is this Game 12964198. This game ended August, 5th 2013. That means that the last game on page 58 has been waiting over a year to get players.

There is also double the waiting game pages as a year ago (20 pages) with HALF THE PLAYERS ON CONQUER CLUB MISSING. This is what killed CC to me. Fix this and get a young generation this game might be good again HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I meant to make this a troll post, but then I actually thought of all this. Stupid time waster.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=190452&p=4175763#p4175763 It was said here a year ago by Ljex.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby keyborn on Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:55 pm

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby owenshooter on Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:17 pm

keyborn wrote:9333

and i bet they all have SUBSCRIPTION memberships... they just lost this loyal customer with the membership bullshit scam they are pulling...-Jésus noir
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Keefie on Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:13 pm

owenshooter wrote:
keyborn wrote:9333

and i bet they all have SUBSCRIPTION memberships... they just lost this loyal customer with the membership bullshit scam they are pulling...-Jésus noir


What are you on about :cry:

The store has been changed to make it very clear what is being purchased. Along with that are VERY clear instructions as to how you can cancel/opt out of the annual renewal.

But no this isn't good enough, now you want a discount too :roll:

FFS we're only paying 8 cents a day for all of this, unbelievably amazing value.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby owenshooter on Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:56 pm

Keefie wrote:FFS we're only paying 8 cents a day for all of this, unbelievably amazing value.

i sent you a PM... not hashing back and forth in this thread... it's not about value, i have been premium for my entire time here, all 8 years (even when on 6 month bans)... it is about customer service and respecting people that have been loyal to the site... especially during these past few messy years...-Jésus noir
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ConfederateSS on Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:34 am

Yeah,an amazing value...8 cents a day for what????..0 cents for four games,that's the only value we are getting,I'm on board.......It has been fixed,What ,that our pockets were being picked without us knowing..Your right High Command it was fixed..not by Whammy,but but CC members who caught it and spoke out..Let us see,Central Command will not be changed back...so says The High Command.even though a loud cry went out..change it back.Speed games are a joke,the only reason I got premium in the first place,was to play risk like if I was playing in real time,but not in one second..Yes,all the dice stats you want for some reason..I am glad all this crap went down before I renewed..So let The Blue and Silver Rebellion ring out,speak for the people,and those 20 thousand that left..Or get Red and Gold for an amazing value,and more,and more changes to come,that will give you buyers remorse in the pit of your stomach.Also that I fell for it again feeling..OH!YEAH!!!..ConfederateSS..out!!!.p.s.Like The Lone Ranger..I LOVE SILVER...AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby jsnyder748 on Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:38 am

Ya change everything. I'm calling for Anarchy.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby keyborn on Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:48 pm

10526... :shock:

Over 1100 new members in the last 24 hours??? I highly doubt it.... Something smells fishy on the full scoreboard page.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:15 am

ConfederateSS wrote:Yeah,an amazing value...8 cents a day for what????..0 cents for four games,that's the only value we are getting,I'm on board.......It has been fixed,What ,that our pockets were being picked without us knowing..Your right High Command it was fixed..not by Whammy,but but CC members who caught it and spoke out..Let us see,Central Command will not be changed back...so says The High Command.even though a loud cry went out..change it back.Speed games are a joke,the only reason I got premium in the first place,was to play risk like if I was playing in real time,but not in one second..Yes,all the dice stats you want for some reason..I am glad all this crap went down before I renewed..So let The Blue and Silver Rebellion ring out,speak for the people,and those 20 thousand that left..Or get Red and Gold for an amazing value,and more,and more changes to come,that will give you buyers remorse in the pit of your stomach.Also that I fell for it again feeling..OH!YEAH!!!..ConfederateSS..out!!!.p.s.Like The Lone Ranger..I LOVE SILVER...AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

It's like anything else. You get out of it what you put into it.

I remember in the summer you were saying we needed an event to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Great War. Well, we put together a Great War event, bigger and more intricate than anyone expected, and have you participated in any aspect of it? Not one. Not one of the 30-something Great War tournaments have you joined, nor the writing contest, nor the guessing game, nothing.

It's like the antisocial kids in school who go to the dance but sit in the parking lot smoking dope in their cars and never do come in and dance. And then they go around saying "dancing is stupid." It's only stupid to them because they don't do it, and they need to have some swisted justification to avoid cognitive dissonance. Bottom line in, CC is dead to you because you don't bother participating in the events that are right under your nose to participate in.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:51 am

keyborn wrote:10526... :shock:

Over 1100 new members in the last 24 hours??? I highly doubt it.... Something smells fishy on the full scoreboard page.


yeah, your number is bunk.

someone took it upon themselves to add all the new recruits that have not finished a game to the list. despite what it says at the top of the scorecard.

The scoreboard is updated every hour. Only players that have taken a turn within the past 30 days are listed. New Recruits are listed once they have finished a game. If you are not familiar with the ranks, they are described in the "Instructions" section.


we'll see what comes of this. till then the real number is 9224. which is the amount of players that have at least one game completed.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ConfederateSS on Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:53 am

Along with WWI on August 4th,I also said A D-Day Event..back on June 6th..I waited 3 years for D-Day to play in a 70th ann D-Day event.Like Gilligan had a Pearl Harbor 70th ann.Event..there was none..I liked the Great War..Idea..I will not ever join a Tourney..You have rdsrds2121 to thank for that...I joined HighlanderAttack's 100th tourney..Rds. got a hold of his member list and spammed everyone..I won my way to the next round.But told Highlander to take me out of his tourney..in a pm.Highlander said it was the best pm he ever read.I was not happy and swore I would never play in another tourney..I haven't.and never will..Events are not tourneys.I won one ga medal in the 70th ann.Pearl Harbor event.I won my other ga medal in a find the maps in New York City..by spelly..So don't tell me what I have done..We didn't need stupid things to collect to join tourneys either back then..just one more thing to make being a premium member useless and a slap in the face...So now the High Command dares attack my battling record and how I chose to spend my time on CC..now that I refuse to renew..nice...I have been trying to talk myself in joining the great war..because I really like what you guys put together..But as with sneaky tricks like premium prices..how can you be trusted..I don't want that fooled me again feeling..ConfederateSS..out!!!!
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:19 am

ConfederateSS wrote:Along with WWI on August 4th,I also said A D-Day Event..back on June 6th..I waited 3 years for D-Day to play in a 70th ann D-Day event.Like Gilligan had a Pearl Harbor 70th ann.Event..there was none..I liked the Great War..Idea..I will not ever join a Tourney..You have rdsrds2121 to thank for that...I joined HighlanderAttack's 100th tourney..Rds. got a hold of his member list and spammed everyone..I won my way to the next round.But told Highlander to take me out of his tourney..in a pm.Highlander said it was the best pm he ever read.I was not happy and swore I would never play in another tourney..I haven't.and never will..Events are not tourneys.I won one ga medal in the 70th ann.Pearl Harbor event.I won my other ga medal in a find the maps in New York City..by spelly..So don't tell me what I have done..We didn't need stupid things to collect to join tourneys either back then..just one more thing to make being a premium member useless and a slap in the face...So now the High Command dares attack my battling record and how I chose to spend my time on CC..now that I refuse to renew..nice...I have been trying to talk myself in joining the great war..because I really like what you guys put together..But as with sneaky tricks like premium prices..how can you be trusted..I don't want that fooled me again feeling..ConfederateSS..out!!!!

Let me get this straight: you won't play in tournaments ever, because you had one bad experience three years ago? That's like saying you'll never have sex again, because one girl in 1958 broke your heart. Or you won't eat food ever again because you had a bad case of salmonella during the Spanish Civil War.

Nice that you're still pining for HighlanderAttack and rdsrds2120. A couple more whiners who quit CC because they disagreed with some trivial decision or other. Their existence is as insignificant as yours.

Still calling me "High Command." :lol: Not that I ever was, since I was always just a volunteer helping preach the gospels of the High Command to the unbelievers. But even that I am no longer. If you actually paid attention to what goes on around here instead of making assumptions, you'd know I resigned almost two weeks ago. I still have the name tag because my successor hasn't been confirmed yet. But as of now, I'm a civilian just like you, which is why I can speak my mind now.

And my mind is that you are dead to me. The only people that matter are those who play in my tournaments. If you don't play in my tournaments, your opinion means less than shit to me.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ConfederateSS on Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:15 am

Who said I am quitting,I'll be here to turn the lights out..Some of us also have real lives Duke..I can't be on the computer 24 hours a day..I don't play doubles,clans,etc..because if something happens in real life,I don't want to let anyone down..The time I won my Pearl Harbor medal, I wrote Gilligan,my daughter was in a car crash,she made it but I had to tell her,her best friend didn't .I almost didn't finish that event.So GO TO HELL using phrases.."you're dead to me"...As player I have been helping people since day one..New comers..Like game 4043055..I didn't need the high command setting up a group to do so...A class act player as well..as in game 4189424,when 2 deadbeat players,I told Firehorse,lets each split the map between us with a buffer zone and go from there.Herd of anyone else doing that...You speak for the high command,you get called the high command.I said,I don't like sneaky people(not you),Rds,whoever came up with the Idea not to tell us about the new prices.etc,etc.Another reason for The Blue and Silver Rebellion...I became a premium member for games that didn't take 24 hours...but not games in one second either..I am not trying to win 1,000 games an hour..Just wanted to play a game on the computer,like a real time game.I see your speed medal is also broze,it is nice to chose what one does on CC isn't it..ConfederateSS..out!!!!.p.s..I will say I do enjoy talking to people from around the world.That is Conquer Club's greatest quality...That is the one thing that will never change.p.s.s.As far as never...it's not written in stone.Your tourneys are not God's gift to CC and neither were Highlander's..If we play 1 game,or a million games on CC,every player is equally important and should be treated as such by The High Command(not you anymore/nice job on the paper)..Like others,I want to see the way the wind is going to blow..If Red and Gold will become worth something again...
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby keyborn on Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:43 am

WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
keyborn wrote:10526... :shock:

Over 1100 new members in the last 24 hours??? I highly doubt it.... Something smells fishy on the full scoreboard page.


yeah, your number is bunk.

someone took it upon themselves to add all the new recruits that have not finished a game to the list. despite what it says at the top of the scorecard.

The scoreboard is updated every hour. Only players that have taken a turn within the past 30 days are listed. New Recruits are listed once they have finished a game. If you are not familiar with the ranks, they are described in the "Instructions" section.


we'll see what comes of this. till then the real number is 9224. which is the amount of players that have at least one game completed.


It is not my number, it is CC's, which means their number is bunk. Like I said, something smells fishy. Why are the new recruits without one completed game added to the total now (if in reality that is the reason for the spectacular jump of 1100+ members)? This just inflates the real number and is an attempt to disguise the rapid decline in active members.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby blakebowling on Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:22 am

keyborn wrote:
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
keyborn wrote:10526... :shock:

Over 1100 new members in the last 24 hours??? I highly doubt it.... Something smells fishy on the full scoreboard page.


yeah, your number is bunk.

someone took it upon themselves to add all the new recruits that have not finished a game to the list. despite what it says at the top of the scorecard.

The scoreboard is updated every hour. Only players that have taken a turn within the past 30 days are listed. New Recruits are listed once they have finished a game. If you are not familiar with the ranks, they are described in the "Instructions" section.


we'll see what comes of this. till then the real number is 9224. which is the amount of players that have at least one game completed.


It is not my number, it is CC's, which means their number is bunk. Like I said, something smells fishy. Why are the new recruits without one completed game added to the total now (if in reality that is the reason for the spectacular jump of 1100+ members)? This just inflates the real number and is an attempt to disguise the rapid decline in active members.

There was an issue with some games not being counted as "Finished Games". This caused some members to fall off the scoreboard despite still being active. This issue has now been fixed and the scoreboard is displaying properly.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby waauw on Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:00 am

Metsfanmax wrote:Image


Got bored and looked up some numbers. And apparently if we compare Metsfanmax's graph with some Google trends history for the keywords 'play risk online', there is indeed an overall decline in popularity of the game risk. How much that decline is, I don't know as no y-axis was offered. However this at the very least shows that the management of this website is at least partially not to blame for the general decline.

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For those interested btw, here's the link to Google trends and if you want to research more you need to log into your gmail account:

http://www.google.com/trends/

most popular related key words are:
  • risk online free
  • play risk free
  • risk free
  • risk game
  • risk game online
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