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Lord Arioch wrote:That would depend on the context of using the word.
Cant people just be polite and play games instead?
Lord Arioch wrote:Well i tend to agree with u... its not impolite per se. BUT it can be used in a way thats demeaning, and i think thats why CC dont want to allow it. The funny thing is if u are GĀ¤y and u want to describe yourself as that how do u do it when its not allowed:)
What should be done it think is to smash down hard on thoose that uses the word wrong. Not on the word itself cause there is nothing bad/evil or wrong with it... and there are plenty of id&%ots around that dont respect people for various stuff they should be hammered!
Symmetry wrote:Lord Arioch wrote:Well i tend to agree with u... its not impolite per se. BUT it can be used in a way thats demeaning, and i think thats why CC dont want to allow it. The funny thing is if u are GĀ¤y and u want to describe yourself as that how do u do it when its not allowed:)
What should be done it think is to smash down hard on thoose that uses the word wrong. Not on the word itself cause there is nothing bad/evil or wrong with it... and there are plenty of id&%ots around that dont respect people for various stuff they should be hammered!
The mod who banned me argued a similar position- that the current rules take the word as bigotry automatically. He seems to be in a position where he's enforcing a rule he thinks should be changed.
mrswdk wrote:So what was the actual context the word was used in? Or are we just going to have to draw conclusions about this from an incomplete set of facts?
thegreekdog wrote:Symmetry wrote:Lord Arioch wrote:Well i tend to agree with u... its not impolite per se. BUT it can be used in a way thats demeaning, and i think thats why CC dont want to allow it. The funny thing is if u are GĀ¤y and u want to describe yourself as that how do u do it when its not allowed:)
What should be done it think is to smash down hard on thoose that uses the word wrong. Not on the word itself cause there is nothing bad/evil or wrong with it... and there are plenty of id&%ots around that dont respect people for various stuff they should be hammered!
The mod who banned me argued a similar position- that the current rules take the word as bigotry automatically. He seems to be in a position where he's enforcing a rule he thinks should be changed.
So this suggestion should be implemented quickly, right?
Perhaps this is a "live chat" quirk. If I recall, global moderators took context into account when making bigotry (and other) determinations (or at least I did when I was a global moderator). That being said, I remember Andy (or someone in a head job position) telling me that chat was a different place.
Just out of curiousity, how many times have you used the word "gay" in the forums and how many time were you banned for it? I think you've used the word at least five times in the last 24 hours (and I've just used it here). I think under the escalating systems, I'm up to a one day ban so I'll let you know when the ban comes down for bigotry for me using the word "gay." Shit, I did it again.
mrswdk wrote:Maybe it was felt you were using the word gay as a homophobic slur (lol - the irony!).
Shoot first, don't reappraise later. The one constant.
Symmetry wrote:Trini hasn't given me an exact context beyond saying that using the word "gay" with regards to someone else is currently a major violation of the rules.
I've pieced together a few more details, but I can't be sure of them.
Essentially, I'm told that I used the word "gay" in a conversation with another player in Live Chat. That resulted in a chat ban for myself and the player I was talking too.
JBlombier wrote:Symmetry wrote:Trini hasn't given me an exact context beyond saying that using the word "gay" with regards to someone else is currently a major violation of the rules.
I've pieced together a few more details, but I can't be sure of them.
Essentially, I'm told that I used the word "gay" in a conversation with another player in Live Chat. That resulted in a chat ban for myself and the player I was talking too.
That sounds completely ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with using the word 'gay', unless you use it as an insult. Even then, I wouldn't be insulted if someone called me gay. It'd have to an explicit homophobic comment, not towards a specific person, but insulting to homosexuality. I don't know you that well, Symmetry, but I don't think you wrote something like that from the posts I've read earlier from you.
Very questionable decision, seemingly one that is made by the personal preference of the mod. I'll refrain from actual mud-throwing until the mod has come here to defend himself, though.
Stephan Wayne wrote:Every day is Fool's Day on CC.
JamesKer1 wrote:If you get chat mods to support this, then they should probably bring it up for mods to discuss. I know that this probably belongs in Suggestions, but I'm not sure if it's a decision that should be made in Suggestions.
My rule of thumb, personally, is to try and stay classy. If the only way you can describe a person, situation, or to make a joke is to use words that could possibly be demeaning to audiences other than the target, then go read a dictionary. References to women's genitalia, women's sexual activity levels, mental abilities, sexual orientations, and the likewise in a demeaning way are all wishy-washy with the rules and are enforced differently by different mods in different situations (even though all should be treated as a severe infraction per Community Guidelines), so avoiding those words as much as possible is your best course of action.
Symmetry wrote:mrswdk wrote:Maybe it was felt you were using the word gay as a homophobic slur (lol - the irony!).
Shoot first, don't reappraise later. The one constant.
Possibly, but of the word with regards to anyone is currently seen as bigotry according to the mod,
codierose wrote:is there a list of what words cant be used
TeeGee wrote:codierose wrote:is there a list of what words cant be used
As far as I know its only 2 words currently not allowed
1 starts with F and rhymes with duck and the other starts with C
TeeGee wrote:codierose wrote:is there a list of what words cant be used
As far as I know its only 2 words currently not allowed
1 starts with F and rhymes with duck and the other starts with C
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