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Storr claims to have no active abilities:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Deg's investigation last night shows there to at least be players without wands, or without active abilities if I have interpreted it correctly.
It is possible that he's lying, but I don't think so at this point. But even if a player does not have a wand, that may not mean that they have no abilities. There could be potions, charmed/enchanted (is there a difference?) objects, etc. and from the HP Wiki: "Goblins have their own type of magic and can do magic without a wand." Maybe there's a mountain troll or basilisk serial killer? We haven't seen any of these yet, but with a game this big, I would think that anything is possible.StorrZerg wrote:I claimed everything about my role. No wand, no night action, day action etc.
There's also Filch. And we have confirmation of Snape and McGonagall.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:We had claims D1 of Kingsley - Double Voter, Mad-Eye & Harry Potter. (If there were anymore please correct me)
What are you referring to here? How did strike pop up and say "oooh look at me I'm town"?WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:So Strikewolf, a town watcher, who believes there to be no vanilla roles, pops up and says "oooh look at me I'm town" and thus takes the nightkill which you have to think would be better served by shooting the claimed Auror... Is this actually a bad play? I think its a really clever unselfish play. It annoys me how many people are very protective of their own skin, when if you are a low power role, stand up and take the hit for the team.
Here's the wiki page on passive roles:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Side note: Are there any mafia roles which dont have actives?
Again from the wiki, a mafia goon "can make the factional kill, and they can speak to the other scum when allowed to do so, but that's it." Don't all mafia have to be able to kill at night, or else it would be very hard for them to win if the only ones left had no night-kill?WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:I suppose mafia goon falls into that category, but they must need a wand to cast avadra kevadra if called upon.
I have no indication of this person's alignment. I assume that if we get close to lynching them, then I should reveal what I know?WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Is the person Deg investigated last night confirmed non-mafia? If so, is it beneficial to Town for Deg to say who that was?
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Thinking about it, Minerva wouldnt have needed a wand to be a watcher. She could just switch to tabby cat form and watch unnoticed.
I dont like the idea of killers using non-wand weapons. Doesnt fit with the flavour. I dont know mafia roles well enough to comment on whether there are going to be non-wand roles in mafia.
StorrZerg wrote:i find no joy in this
aage wrote:I have managed to steal my girlfriend's phone so I can make one short post now.
I want to respond to a lot of things so I'll just respond to one thing: why I voted for Pershy.
Deg already mentioned it: I wanted to avoid a tie. Storr forced a push back on Pershy which divided the votes so much that deg wasn't getting lynched. I did want a lynch. Hence I voted the most likely candidate. Call me a band wagoner but the day could end at any second and I didn't want to risk no lynch.
More on Sunday as I'll be back home then.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
strike wolf wrote:Where did I suggest the game was NV? I saw Wing mention that but I don't remember stating it.
*Pixar* wrote:So just a clairification, MTAM cannot be night killed? seems odd to me...
Streaker wrote:This actually proves that those 'useless' discussions actually contributed to the activity level of the general thread.
So Strikewolf, a town watcher, who believes there to be no vanilla roles, pops up and says "oooh look at me I'm town" and thus takes the nightkill which you have to think would be better served by shooting the claimed Auror... Is this actually a bad play?
Mafia would have known that Mtam and Storr were non-mafia, so would be quite willing to push those two cases amidst the town confusion of what on earth the two of them were playing at.
Streaker wrote:Doing the best I can under these conditions, and I feel like nobody is really following me on my reads.
Ok you made your point, but for me personally I don't know any other way to play this game.
Ragian wrote:But if [charm] was indeed hit with something of a malign character last night, it would suggest that she's town.
Talapus wrote:mtam is still playing like a dick even though he is claiming HP. But seriously I have no idea why some people still push it as no one else has claimed HP. And unless the mod is seriously twisted and didn't put HP in the game but gave the big V that fake claim then the entire argument is a waste of time.
And really, storr as a topic of conversation still. I see it two ways with him. Either A - he really is a survivor and a vocal one that gets lots of attention at that. Which is just fine because we had one kill last night people and that means I think several people targeted storr and mtam and canceled or blocked each others powers. So I would totally buy that whatever mtam claimed to have sent never made it.
The other option is storr is full of BS and has one hell of a fake claim. I mean lets be honest here, Filch was a fairly useless character in the story. Always present, but never really active. Several characters fit that as well but storr is only one so far to come forward and claim it. Could he be a death eater right under our noses and lying to us even now? Absolutely. Do I think it matters regardless at the moment? Hell no. He is drawing far too much attention to himself and someone will again no doubt target him tonight so either way I think looking at him any more is a complete waste of time.
There were however quite a few last minute vote hoppers before the end of day one we may benefit from looking at. Will go back and relook at those tonight and see what stands out.
charm wrote:I would assume that Minerva had a wand too. I also wonder if mafia kills someone does that mean they have the wand or does the wand disappear/die with the character??
It may be nothing, or something, I don't know and not that it matters since I don't count today! So, don't bother with paying any attention to me if you don't want to.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:strike wolf wrote:Where did I suggest the game was NV? I saw Wing mention that but I don't remember stating it.
Feck - You didnt, Streaker did. Slightly alters my logic a bit. Still doesnt change the fact that losing a town watcher is much more preferable to losing a claimed auror.
mafiascum.net wrote:The Follower is an informative role that can target a player at Night and learn what form of action they took that Night (investigation, protection, killing, etc), but not who they targeted.
degaston wrote:strike wolf wrote:He hasnt claimed cop, he claimed an investigative role that he didnt specify.
I don't know if there is a role that exactly matches a cop. I am able to cast Prior Incantato once each night to learn the last spell cast from someone's wand.
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