owenshooter wrote:Alexscelus wrote: I also don't recall the rules saying anything about not doing that, though I haven't checked the rules since 2011. I'll have to take a look at what's been updated.
you obviously never read the rules, then... secret diplomacy, etc... open and shut.. someone is getting a warning... that's how it goes and now you now...-Jésus noir
No, it's not obvious, though thanks for highlighting the issue I see with this.
I played a fair bit of CC from 2009 to 2011, enough to think I knew what was up. I had some regular allies for team games and such, though I don't remember the clans being a thing, or Global Chat. Suffice to say, I was familiar with CC minus the tournaments and regularly used the wall and PMs to chat with players.
Then I left and played other games, with different rules. The most prominent in the last year has been Neptune's Pride, whose rules are about as opposite CC as it gets. Multi accounts aren't regulated, or even an issue because of how gameplay works. Alliances are completely up to the discretion of the players and their personal honor. Reputation is measured vaguely in victories and medals, paid for by other players. All messages are private unless you choose to include multiple recipients. The creator does not monitor any communications. Relations are tenuous and while alliances are critical to winning, betrayals happen all the time, making successful alliances all the more exciting.
I returned recently to a simple board game I used to play and didn't think to look for the rules. I already knew how to play and had had no problems in the past. There was no reminder to check them or other obvious hint to deter me from breaking any rules. I put a couple messages on opponents' walls, which seemed pretty forthright to me since it was public and all, hardly a secret alliance, and then mrswdk annoyingly called me out on it formally instead of just asking me about it. Likewise, the two "honest" players I contacted out of game said nothing about its illegality. Maybe eleni forgot, how should I know? But it's a freaking game, not a matter of life or death, and if the rules aren't posted blatantly, I don't think it's crazy to assume that some people may have reason to have forgotten them.
But please, if you'd like to accurately recite all the rules you've ever read in your life to prove whatever it is exactly you're trying to prove, go do it somewhere else because I don't give a damn.
If there are others like Owen who are on a warpath when it comes to this issue, then my suggestion is to do something about it other than blaming players who profess innocence. The point I did want to make is that if CC rules are changing, or at least being rewritten, and the rules are important, maybe they should be linked to from more than just the RULES in the upper right corner.
*When someone returns after a hiatus, they could receive an email reminder with the rules. Or there could be a button on player's pages so you can quickly send them a reminder of the rules if you think they aren't following them (including rating or whatever else).* Basically, I'm saying culpability should be reasonable and I don't know of any other games where it's important to check the rules again before you join back in after having been away a while. If it's a serious infraction that's easy to make, it should be more obvious it's a problem to help prevent it from happening instead of just accusing people of being LIARS, which some people do NOT appreciate, and thinking you've saved the world.
