Equality of access

[mrswdk]

IF YOU ARE DISTRAUGHT THAT YOU ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS LIST THEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK

The preponderance of straight, white males on this site is troubling. Now that nietzsche has gone into hibernation the minority community basically only consists of:

• Me (female, Chinese);
• AoG and owen (black);
• Lord Arioch (cornholer); and
• waauw (ladyboy),

with the remaining 99% of CC members falling into the category of 'white privilege'.

What can CC do to bring a little diversity to its throwback membership?

[owenshooter]

wow... how did the black jesus get left out of this?-Jésus noir

[mrswdk]

My bad. Updated!

[Coler]

There are lots of people who arn't straight white males on here who are also not loud and annoying.

[DoomYoshi]

Well, me and my Bilderberg Buddies have pretty much skedaddled....

[owenshooter]

There are lots of people who arn't straight white males on here who are also not loud and annoying.

wait.. your country code says ireland... *cough*... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

[Army of GOD]

There are lots of people who arn't straight white males on here who are also not loud and annoying.

Check your white privilege

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

There are lots of people who arn't straight white males on here who are also not loud and annoying.

wait.. your country code says ireland... *cough*... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

So you're going to stereotype someone based on their location? WOW

[iAmCaffeine]

There are lots of people who arn't straight white males on here who are also not loud and annoying.

wait.. your country code says ireland... *cough*... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

So you're going to stereotype someone based on their location? WOW

I think it's called a joke.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

There are lots of people who arn't straight white males on here who are also not loud and annoying.

wait.. your country code says ireland... *cough*... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

So you're going to stereotype someone based on their location? WOW

I think it's called a joke.

Alright calm down . Sorry just a joke

[the white rose]

white straight male and proud of it.

join me at straight pride!

[Nymeria Stark]

It's definitely safe to assume someone is a straight white male if they don't state otherwise.

[clangfield]

The preponderance of straight, white males on this site is troubling. Now that nietzsche has gone into hibernation the minority community basically only consists of me (female, Chinese), AoG and owen (black) and Keefie (mentally impaired), with the remaining 99% of CC members falling into the category of 'white privilege'.

What can CC do to bring a little diversity to its throwback membership?

Maybe censure the macho culture that leads to comments like "suck it up cupcake" and slags off new players who make unfortunately naive C&A reports or suggestions?
Treating new, and indeed experienced, players with respect so that they can play and express themselves without fear of being humiliated would go a long way.

I also think there are quite a few with psychological issues still here...

[owenshooter]

The preponderance of straight, white males on this site is troubling. Now that nietzsche has gone into hibernation the minority community basically only consists of me (female, Chinese), AoG and owen (black) and Keefie (mentally impaired), with the remaining 99% of CC members falling into the category of 'white privilege'.

What can CC do to bring a little diversity to its throwback membership?

Maybe censure the macho culture that leads to comments like "suck it up cupcake" and slags off new players who make unfortunately naive C&A reports or suggestions?
Treating new, and indeed experienced, players with respect so that they can play and express themselves without fear of being humiliated would go a long way.

I also think there are quite a few with psychological issues still here...

first off, let me comment on the bold... cool that your family stuck around and are enjoying the premium i bought them... now, onto the rest of your post

there are those that make every topic about themselves and post something that has nothing at all to do with the subject the OP has brought about... nice try, but you kind of missed the mark with this whining and meandering post about your trials and tribulations within the C&A forums and forums in general... you seem to take great offense at things that are engrained within the CC culture. "suck it up, cupcake" and "sorry about your little butt" have been on this site since almost the very beginning. glad you were able to find a place for your latest rant about the forums and the lunatics and C&A, now move along, unless you really have something to say... otherwise, let me introduce you to another time honoured CC saying... "stop beating a dead horse." (that one is even in the site's forum rules!!)... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

*cough*

[Keefie]

The preponderance of straight, white males on this site is troubling. Now that nietzsche has gone into hibernation the minority community basically only consists of me (female, Chinese), AoG and owen (black) and Keefie (mentally impaired), with the remaining 99% of CC members falling into the category of 'white privilege'.

What can CC do to bring a little diversity to its throwback membership?

I'd just like to say that I'm completely normal and that comes from my long term psychologist.

[owenshooter]

The preponderance of straight, white males on this site is troubling.

little black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

[iAmCaffeine]

The preponderance of straight, white males on this site is troubling. Now that nietzsche has gone into hibernation the minority community basically only consists of me (female, Chinese), AoG and owen (black) and Keefie (mentally impaired), with the remaining 99% of CC members falling into the category of 'white privilege'.

What can CC do to bring a little diversity to its throwback membership?

Maybe censure the macho culture that leads to comments like "suck it up cupcake" and slags off new players who make unfortunately naive C&A reports or suggestions?
Treating new, and indeed experienced, players with respect so that they can play and express themselves without fear of being humiliated would go a long way.

I also think there are quite a few with psychological issues still here...

What you don't realise is that Owen often PMs these players as well to offer advice and assistance, and also does with with regular players too who in public he appears to be "trolling". You should get your facts straight before saying things that potentially make you look like a dick.

[owenshooter]

The preponderance of straight, white males on this site is troubling. Now that nietzsche has gone into hibernation the minority community basically only consists of me (female, Chinese), AoG and owen (black) and Keefie (mentally impaired), with the remaining 99% of CC members falling into the category of 'white privilege'.

What can CC do to bring a little diversity to its throwback membership?

Maybe censure the macho culture that leads to comments like "suck it up cupcake" and slags off new players who make unfortunately naive C&A reports or suggestions?
Treating new, and indeed experienced, players with respect so that they can play and express themselves without fear of being humiliated would go a long way.

I also think there are quite a few with psychological issues still here...

What you don't realise is that Owen often PMs these players as well to offer advice and assistance, and also does with with regular players too who in public he appears to be "trolling". You should get your facts straight before saying things that potentially make you look like a dick.

i see what you did there... avoiding the flame and all... now, can we get back on topic? what about hip hop tuesdays?!! that could bring some diversity to the site!!-Jésus noir

[Coler]

There are lots of people who arn't straight white males on here who are also not loud and annoying.

wait.. your country code says ireland... *cough*... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

[owenshooter]

There are lots of people who arn't straight white males on here who are also not loud and annoying.

wait.. your country code says ireland... *cough*... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

i think you meant




thanks for the laugh!!-Jn

[clangfield]

The preponderance of straight, white males on this site is troubling. Now that nietzsche has gone into hibernation the minority community basically only consists of me (female, Chinese), AoG and owen (black) and Keefie (mentally impaired), with the remaining 99% of CC members falling into the category of 'white privilege'.

What can CC do to bring a little diversity to its throwback membership?

Maybe censure the macho culture that leads to comments like "suck it up cupcake" and slags off new players who make unfortunately naive C&A reports or suggestions?
Treating new, and indeed experienced, players with respect so that they can play and express themselves without fear of being humiliated would go a long way.

I also think there are quite a few with psychological issues still here...

What you don't realise is that Owen often PMs these players as well to offer advice and assistance, and also does with with regular players too who in public he appears to be "trolling". You should get your facts straight before saying things that potentially make you look like a dick.

How can I get such "facts" straight if I'm not aware of them? How would I know what PMs owen sends?
My conviction remains that humiliating in the forum, followed by a PM, is not as encouraging to retaining members as simply sending the appropriate advice in the first place.

[clangfield]

The preponderance of straight, white males on this site is troubling. Now that nietzsche has gone into hibernation the minority community basically only consists of me (female, Chinese), AoG and owen (black) and Keefie (mentally impaired), with the remaining 99% of CC members falling into the category of 'white privilege'.

What can CC do to bring a little diversity to its throwback membership?

Maybe censure the macho culture that leads to comments like "suck it up cupcake" and slags off new players who make unfortunately naive C&A reports or suggestions?
Treating new, and indeed experienced, players with respect so that they can play and express themselves without fear of being humiliated would go a long way.

I also think there are quite a few with psychological issues still here...

first off, let me comment on the bold... cool that your family stuck around and are enjoying the premium i bought them... now, onto the rest of your post

there are those that make every topic about themselves and post something that has nothing at all to do with the subject the OP has brought about... nice try, but you kind of missed the mark with this whining and meandering post about your trials and tribulations within the C&A forums and forums in general... you seem to take great offense at things that are engrained within the CC culture. "suck it up, cupcake" and "sorry about your little butt" have been on this site since almost the very beginning. glad you were able to find a place for your latest rant about the forums and the lunatics and C&A, now move along, unless you really have something to say... otherwise, let me introduce you to another time honoured CC saying... "stop beating a dead horse." (that one is even in the site's forum rules!!)... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

*cough*

Insulting my family... classy.

I find it rather sad that you think respect for others is a dead horse and the macho culture is engrained.
Regardless, the relevance to the OP is simple: "cupcake" has been used as a pejorative homosexual term in the past and may therefore offend and deter some homosexual players. That is my opinion, and in my view a possible restriction to the membership of this site, and I make no apology for repeating it - I hope, one day, the 'engrained' culture may change. Your caustic comments will not deter me from expressing that opinion in answer to appropriate questions: if you think they will, you are perhaps attempting to elicit action from your own deceased equine. I would cite the suffragette and civil rights movements as times when opinions moved on.

That said, the answer to the original question is obvious: we don't know how many non-white non-heterosexual players there are, because we didn't ask. Long may it stay that way, because it's of no relevance to game play whatsoever. If everyone just respected their opponents and commented on nothing other than their gameplay, I believe that there would be considerably more harmony.

[owenshooter]

cool double post... still have no idea what anything you said has to do with bringing diversity to the Club... but, thanks for the input... truly valued... now, onto the rest of your post... seems you have an issue understanding the english language, perhaps it is not your first. if that is the case, i apologize. if english is your first language, again, i apologize. now, let me explain the "beating a dead horse", since you once again turned that into your own little twisted agenda.

the dead horse is your continual DRONE about your experience in C&A with a meritless complaint and how you are continually changing your story. now, the cupcake deals with homosexuality... ok... whatever... that is a new twist to your story, and i don't find it homophobic at all. as tough as nails, as soft as a cupcake... nothing homosexual in there, just your twisted mind trying to add fuel to a fire that was doused for everyone long ago, that you keep trying to stoke. and sorry, this new cupcake SLANT still doesn't make your baseless accusation relevant, and again, it was not/is not homophobic. *eyes rolling right out of my black jesus skull*-Jésus noir

p.s.-"Sensitive Member" is a great name for a cover band

alleged anti-gay anthem used in C&A

[clangfield]

cool double post... still have no idea what anything you said has to do with bringing diversity to the Club... but, thanks for the input... truly valued...-Jésus noir

No, and perhaps that's the problem. You don't appear to understand why a word might offend and deter some people. Just because it's been there a while doesn't make it right.

My (other) point was that we don't know that it's not a diverse membership - nor, indeed, whether it's an issue at all, it's simply that most people don't feel a need to declare their personal demographics, be it gender, ethnicity, sexuality, even age. Do we have enough old or young people? Do we have enough obese, left handed, short or short-sighted people? Does it matter? Since the title is "Equality of access": is there actually anything preventing or deterring non-white straight males from joining?
I concede that the site is not accessible to the blind, and it's probably offering limited enjoyment to those without literacy or numeracy, but what would stop anyone else from joining (other than the fundamental issues with the site/game itself)?

[owenshooter]

I concede that the site is not accessible to the blind, and it's probably offering limited enjoyment to those without literacy or numeracy, but what would stop anyone else from joining (other than the fundamental issues with the site/game itself)?

i have a problem with this statement, because you seem to be doing just fine on here... and seriously, "suck it up, cupcake", DETERRED you from CC? yeah, you are all over the forums and you play games... what are your feelings on, "Sorry about your little butt"? you seem think i invented "SUCK IT UP, CUPCAKE", but i didn't. and again, it is not homophobic. there was even a huge movement to have lack make "SUCK IT UP, CUPCAKE" t-shirts, when the forums were vibrant and the numbers were close to 30K on here.. something needs to be done to bring more multi-cultural flavor to the site or to get those players involved. we used to have a great little rainbow coalition running around the forums, live chat, mafia, etc... now, i can count prominent site members of color on 2 hands... where has Black Knight been? miss that guy... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-oddly enough, the forums are 200% nicer than when this forum was full on rocking and flame wars was in full swing. I shudder to think how you would have handled being in here if "suck it up, cupcake" is that offensive to you...

THE LORD SAYS IT!!!