[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[AladdinSane]

Vote count:

-AladdinSane (3): Storrzerg*, Wing*, ptlowe*,
-Storrzerg (5): madmitch*, Rishaed*, falkomagno*, madmitch, DJPatrick
-the white rose (6): Iron Butterfly*, DJPatrick*, Iron Butterfly, LSU Tiger Josh*, LSU Tiger Josh, CatchersMitt14*
-benga (1): whatsausage*
-no vote (1): player57832*,
-ptlowe (1): whatsausage,
-whatsausage (12): benga*, Metsfanmax*, / (aka Slash)*, Rishaed, Ragian*, benga, the white rose*, pancakemix*, ptlowe, rizky_biznezz*, falkomagno, Wing (L-2)
-Metsfanmax (0):
-Skoffin (2): Storrzerg, Aladdinsane*
-Catchersmitt14 (1): player57832

Deadline is January 22nd, 09.00 CC Time. It takes 14 to have a majority. Reaching this deadline while your vote is not currently placed, will result in modkill.

STreak, you forgot my vote on Storr.

I've voted Skoffin 3 times, then unvoted twice, so that vote shood have counted, rite?

I suspect their will be enough votes for WhatSausage, and I can always change later if necessary, so VOTE STORR.

[Ragian]

Humm, alright. I guess you have gotten more out of it that I have, then. Perhaps you're right that we won't get any more unless we lynch.

[degaston]

I'll go ahead and Vote WhatSausage

It looks like he's lost interest.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Chance of getting a vote out of mtam and tom?

[AladdinSane]

I'm a boit hesitant about being the hamerer, since I seem to atrackt flak for evryting I do, but hey, my vote is avalable. I've been saying I cood get behind a Sausage vote.

I'll sleep on it I tink. if he is still L-1 when I chek in agin, I'll hamer.

[Ragian]

vote Whatsausage

[benga]

there will not be any modkills with lynch, where are you getting this from
damn

[ptlowe]

@alladin...I've stated my reasons for you being scum. You just buried the posts and decided to forget about them. When I say buried. Buried with your shit posts about speculation. Also flipping on conversation. Also the joke mod vote. Your scum and I sew it.

[ptlowe]

Oh and also the wicked early hammer last day. When we had time to investigate more.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Mod note: last wave of reminders has been sent out to the least inactive bunch of players. If no reply or increased activity, expect them to die in excruciating ways by the end of D2.

[Iron Butterfly]

For those who want to hear from Whatsausage: what is it exactly that you would like him to say?

I would want him to agree that the color of your name burns our retinas.

[benga]

[quote="Streaker wrote:Mod note: last wave of reminders has been sent out to the least inactive bunch of players. If no reply or increased activity, expect them to die in excruciating ways by the end of D2.

[/quote]

yes, but it was also said, if we get lynch...
forget it, you are right

[degaston]

there will not be any modkills with lynch, where are you getting this from
damn

Mod note: last wave of reminders has been sent out to the least inactive bunch of players. If no reply or increased activity, expect them to die in excruciating ways by the end of D2.

yes, but it was also said, if we get lynch...
forget it, you are right

They might still modkill for inactivity even though the day ended with a lynch.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

What did that post add Deg? Clearly Benga had already understood his mistake.

Contribute please. Not just touch base to remind us you are here.

[StorrZerg]

For those who want to hear from Whatsausage: what is it exactly that you would like him to say?

I wanted him to talk about other people and give reads. A chance to respond to my accusations. Etc. I don't like when people die and leave nothing. If whatsausageis town, there will be very limited information regarding him and his thoughts on the game.

[Iron Butterfly]

The death of sausage will give us information on Mitch and his gifts, at least the 8 ball AND the nature of Bengas investigation.

Storr you made a great case on why he should be lynched. If he flips mafia what info would be trusted after the fact? If he flips third party or any thing other then Town he was a liar and again his info could not be trusted.

If he was Town you could be damn sure he would be here fighting for his life but thats just me. If he were Town he had a damn cool role to play with.

The only way his information would be useful is if he was Town. Your whole case argued otherwise.

Why are you so concerned about his reads if you made a case that argues he is not Town? To me that seems fishy and contradictory.

[StorrZerg]

I could be wrong

[PLAYER57832]

Are the inactive more likely town or mafia or third or mixed? If mafia, third party or mixed, then wouldn't it make sense to let them die?

[StorrZerg]

depends on player.

When people are busy IRL don't matter. whatsausage usually doesn't post daily. Hence why i wanted to wait. I hadn't actually seen him "view" mafia and not post since i made my post.

[Ragian]

I could be wrong

*files as evidence for use in later mafia games*

I know from myself that I would be here fighting tooth and nail to prove my townyness if I was town sleeping god that could fiddle with the mechanics of the game. I'm not necessarily sure how I would make it work to town's advantage given the veto the mods have installed on the role (it makes sense for the mods to limit his role like this. If he is town, he could make a role saying that no scum can vote D2 or something. That would be unbalanced, I'd say), but I would not just sigh and give up like this. This is how I interpret sausage's absence by the bye. His absence doesn't necessarily indicate alignment, though. He posted what he did with his role and why, and I have no reason not to believe him. He might have given up because several stated that what he did wasn't beneficial to town and he's like, "Why bother?" I have seen townies do that before. It's really bad when that happens. Swallow pride and play the long game and all that.

Still, I don't think he's town. Surely, he would want to win and can still win with town if he's town, so he would be giving us reads, thoughts, whatever to that effect. That hasn't happened. Also, if that has any merit in this sort of game, his role doesn't strike me as a town role.

But the essence of this lynch, as I see it, is not just to hang potential anti-town. It's also to clear up benga who has a guilty verdict on sausage and IB whose magic 8-ball has an innocent verdict on sausage. (Well, non-town and town, respectivelyright?) There was also some hostility between PTlowe and sausage at some point (sausage wanted to policy lynch PT for claiming cop) so a lynch might also shed some light on that aspect. I think we'll get decent information from a sausage lynch.

[AladdinSane]

@alladin...I've stated my reasons for you being scum. You just buried the posts and decided to forget about them. When I say buried. Buried with your shit posts about speculation. Also flipping on conversation. Also the joke mod vote. Your scum and I sew it.

All I can say is i am so glad you are not a cop in reel life (at leest, I pray that you arnt) - you'd likely turn up at a murder seen and arrest the victim. Yore "reesons" for voting me are laffably moronic.

I "bureed" you posts? Dere's no sutch ting as burying posts - evryone is susposed to reed all the way thru, evry post.

I joke-voted mod? So funking wot? Wot posible link is dere between dat and alinement?

I have no idee wot you meen by "flipping on conversation" - specifics pleese.

I hamered HotShot? If yoove been reeding you'd see dis has been discust awready - anywun on teh HS vote cood have withdrawn there vote at any time if they felt they wanted D1 to play out longer and, due to a lack of frekwent votecounts, a cupple playas (including me) were not aware that HotShot was at L-1. Also, night talk was allowed and it turned out to be a good (or, at least, not bad) linch anyway.

Finally i seem to remember you saying you are voting me for been annoying. Like I sed befour, linching isent a punishment of a playa - it is a way four Town to try to win. Voting to linch on the basis of not liking sumwun only helps scum.

[AladdinSane]

He might have given up because several stated that what he did wasn't beneficial to town and he's like, "Why bother?" I have seen townies do that before. It's really bad when that happens. Swallow pride and play the long game and all that.

I cood see dat hapening. Dere seem to be sevral keebord worriers in dis game who like to fling shit about in a vishus manner and I can see sumwun wwithout a thick skin saying just that "Why bother". Me, I don't care wot dese pussies say, I'm goin to enjoy teh game no matter wot.

You know, I live in SE Asia and I evryday I see peeple who make $5 or $10 per day fer a long work day literally laff in the face of adversity - like losing a day's pay for sum stoopid reeson - and then I cum here and see peeple who have no funking idee how privileged they are to have the leisure time and resources to sit on a computer or phone playing games, whining about a tiny wittle fing like deeling wit sum mispeling and I tink 'You funking wankers have no funking idee yer alive'.

But the essence of this lynch, as I see it, is not just to hang potential anti-town. It's also to clear up benga who has a guilty verdict on sausage and IB whose magic 8-ball has an innocent verdict on sausage. (Well, non-town and town, respectivelyright?) There was also some hostility between PTlowe and sausage at some point (sausage wanted to policy lynch PT for claiming cop) so a lynch might also shed some light on that aspect. I think we'll get decent information from a sausage lynch.

It won't entirely cleer up Benga/IB. It cood be dat Benga is insane/paranoid cop and IB is telling teh truth about an ackurate 8-borl, OR Benga is sane cop and 8-borl is inaccurate, for example. Or Benga is fakeclaiming. Or IB is lying about the 8-borl. But it wil be a step in the rite direckshun.

For me, I am wurried about dis group Sausage is linked wit, by his own admishun. We cood be in grave danger if it is anti-Town and capture's Sausage's god-powers (if he even has god-powers). So I agree in brord terms - the main advantage to linching Sausage is gaining info.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Are the inactive more likely town or mafia or third or mixed? If mafia, third party or mixed, then wouldn't it make sense to let them die?

Likely mixed, there hasnt been too much objection from anyone which concerns me that mafia may not be too bothered.

[AladdinSane]

It won't entirely cleer up Benga/IB. It cood be dat Benga is insane/paranoid cop and IB is telling teh truth about an ackurate 8-borl, OR Benga is sane cop and 8-borl is inaccurate, for example. Or Benga is fakeclaiming. Or IB is lying about the 8-borl. But it wil be a step in the rite direckshun.

Let me try dis bit agin. Dere was a Thai girl hear distrackting the shit out of me, but she's gorn now.

Let's say Sausage flips town: It cood be dat Benga is insane/paranoid cop and IB is telling teh truth about an ackurate 8-borl. Or Benga is fakeclaiming. Or IB is lying about the 8-borl. Or dere was busdriving. Or sum other bastardry.

Or, let's say Sausage flips Mafia or other anti-Town: It cood be dat Benga is sane cop and teh 8-borl is inackurate or IB is lying about teh 8-borl. Or dere was busdriving. Etc.

Or let's say Sausage flips 3P but not anti-Town...

But yeah, a step in teh rite direkshun.

[Streaker]

Looks like a lynch to me, doing a recount. Expect the day to end in an hour or so.
Also, Rule nr. 5 excists for a reason. I am very lenient when it comes to unvoting before voting again (happened a LOT), but try to at least bold and colour when you vote. It's easily missed. Thanks!