[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[CatchersMitt14]

Catcher had a very good reply to my question and posted a list I could agree with.BUT through accident or on purpose he left DJ off it.

Crap, yeah, that's an unfortumate oversite on my part. Not a good one to miss either at this point in the game.
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Here's what I posted yesterday before the lynch - my best attpemt to support turley forggetting DJ on my list.

Its like Dj is not even playing this game except to pop in and f*ck with the votes while saying shit Captain Obvious would envy saying.

I think we need to also discus who outside these three is mafia. Can we make blocks to isolate them? Divide and conquer as they say.

I agree with the observation on DJ and I would also add slash to this list. Player also just stops by to vote without any resoning at all but I think she isn't at the same level of unhelpfullness as the other two.

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Town-Deg,Rag,Benga,TWR,Rizky,Iron Butterfly.

Which leaves player, Mets, Aladdin, /, Mitch, DJ, and myself (pretty confidenture I got everyone this time).

I'll add to my list from earlier this evening; to me DJ also fallins into this category which groups him with slash. I'd definitly like to hear more from both of them tomorrow pending what we discover in the morning. Yesterday, slash voted for DJ and DJ didn't vote at all.

That leaves slash, he seems to be skating around the edges. After Rish's flip I think it's worth looking into hiim tomorrow.

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rag i think you are next, share with us now before you go-go

That's kinda why I asked if I were the last PR. (I would like some rubber or other form of protection.)

Fine, I'm a "Strategist" I enable a role to go through even if it's roleblocked or redirected in any way, though I only have limited shots.

I used one on PT last night, since I figured he'd probably be blocked. Lot of good that did though.

If there's a roleblocker or whatever that wants to test this out tonight, just let me know the plan.

• Slash also claimed a PR and says it's a limited use. I'd be happy to be corrected but it looks like he says he only used it once and he doesn't mention it again after his initially claim. I find it odd that with all the talk about jailing and roleblocks in general that slash hasn't brought any new information to light or been able to identify one of our PRs to enable.
• Between slash and DJ I'd be inclined to vote for a slash lynch because I think it will give us more information than DJ. Since slash voted for a DJ lynch, slash's flip would give us an indicaiton of DJ's alignment.
• Slash has also pursed a linche on both Mets and IB. Again, slash's flip would shed some light on both of them (particularlly Mets). I don't think there is as much informatio to be gained from lynching DJ.
• Also, as a last note whilcte not quite as noteworthy....slash ended up being the only other vote against DJ along with Rish yesterday.

[AladdinSane]

Several reasons that add up and that present a very strong case i am Town versus others. the strongest evidence is that Benga investigated me with the glasses created by LSU that said I had blood on my hands. We know he was an insane inventor whos inventions state the opposite.

I agree. Benga used teh glasses on IB, and teh resolt was blood on hands. We know now dat Benga dident have blood on his hands, so we know dat LSU TJ's invenchuns dident in fact orl werk by reflecting back on teh user (or teh glasses wood have sed no blood). So, we flip the resolt and conclude IB is Town.

Not saying that I think IB is scum, but the glasses really only confirm that he was not involved in a kill through N3. And if he was scum, I wouldn't expect him to be used for a kill because his D1 actions put him under some suspicion. (which I assume is why benga investigated him)

Yeh, good point. Was verry tired wen I rote dat, and strugling wit a shit internet coneckshun. Usually its me taking a consrvative view on how confermed sumwun is, LOL. So IB cant qwite go on teh twusted list just yet. Dat kinda fits wit my gut feel about him - I feel pritty shore their is sumtink about him we dont know yet. I dont tink he is Mafia, but if their is a hidden 3P in teh game, IB wood be my prime suspeckt.

We have biggert fish to fry firt tho, namely acshual MAfia. DJP, Player, / and CM wood be on my list fer dat. I've been suspishus of Mets but he was on teh Rish linch, and i don't see why he wood be if he was mafia.

FPed CM

[DJPatrick]

@ player...yes slash ended up being the only vote (with Rish) against me yesterday BUT...consider that scum trying to lynch me saw it was faltering and swapped to lynching one of their own to give them some cred...who was the hardest on me and one of the last to switch> IB,,,maybe slash is just trying to stay in the game rather than read more than 100 pages to work out what is happenning in this Bastard of a Game? I didn't vote for Rish,,,but then I didn't vote for anyone as I was well underattack and wanted to see who was hitting on me as Rish's ally...and who switched at the last moment...I think you will find scum in those who changed at the last minute than in those who basically haven;t posted at all...there is more than one way to play this game so don't get sucked in by the couple of folk who accuse you because you're not playing their way...

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Send me night actions please, Dawn in 8 hours.

[rizky_biznezz]

Yeah sorry deg didn't see ur post properly (I have a really bad cracked screen it makes it quite tricky) I thought ur post was saying that the glasses were only reading night 3.. I will wait til I get to a computer before I butt in again lol

[PLAYER57832]

Several reasons that add up and that present a very strong case i am Town versus others. the strongest evidence is that Benga investigated me with the glasses created by LSU that said I had blood on my hands. We know he was an insane inventor whos inventions state the opposite.

That not good enough??

I am just rechecking.

Here is a puzzlement for me, though not necessarily something that would mean you are not town. Others who were investigated got "not town" results. That is easy enough to reverse. Is "blood on hands" enough?

Also, does insane necessarily mean reverse? It could mean just "unpredictable" couldn't it? If that is the case, then the results are worthless. Again, not saying this is the case, just wondering why so many are so sure.

[PLAYER57832]

(2) Asuming dat their were 8 or 9 scum at teh begining of teh game - say, 4-6 Mafia and tree or four anti-Town 2Ps (HS, WhatSausage, Mitch, ???), their would still be, as at dawn D6, 5 or 6 left, including 3-5 Mafia (sinse HotShot, WhatSausage, PCM were ded). Sinse their were 14 alive, dat leeves 8 or 9 Town. We needed 8 to linch. That meens it was ackshually kwite a feet to get a linch, ortho Mitch's cooperashun (how long can we rely on dat???) helped. Theirs no way Mafia shood have been on dat linch, becorse (1), witch meens either Town lucked it by been orl or neerly orl on teh same page prackticly or, maybe moor likely, their are ackshually fewer scum than this. Either way, I'm lookig at those who dident vote Rish.

I did not vote and am most certainly town. If your numbers are correct, then scum voted for the lynch... perhaps as a deflection?

[PLAYER57832]

Player also just stops by to vote without any resoning at all but I think she isn't at the same level of unhelpfullness as the other two.

My answer remains the same, except I will add that RL has gotten rather complicated right now. I guess I just don't have as much time as this game should require right now.

My basic goal is not to screw up, not to harm town. I don't see that I am ABLE to add anything, so I am just trying to "tread water"/keep from screwing up.

I would just let the accusations fly, since, to be honest, being ousted would not be a huge tragedy to me right now, but any additional town kill at this point is a huge harm. I am town, so lynching me would not help. I may not have been terribly helpful, but I don't feel that I have actually been inhibiting of town. To the extent my opinions and votes have been wrong (and I am not alone in that), then it still generates comments and ideas from others.

[PLAYER57832]

not through everything yet, but gotta go, hope to come back before the night ends, but might not make it.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

D7 - Dawn of the Robot.

Is it progress? Or an end of the golden era? Ragian has been found dead with traces of hydraulic fluid at the scene. The robots have come and replaced the craftsman.

Ragian, Town Inventor is dead.

D7 begins, 12 alive 7 to lynch, deadline 23/03/16 at 14:00 CC Time.

[Iron Butterfly]

I would count Player as more Town then mafia. She certainly would not be my top pick.

DJ is my to pick just from the way he posts.

I had missed that /was a power role of some sort.

Wing could we please prod /to see if he is alive and to invite him to play

[Iron Butterfly]

D7 - Dawn of the Robot.

Is it progress? Or an end of the golden era? Ragian has been found dead with traces of hydraulic fluid at the scene. The robots have come and replaced the craftsman.

Ragian, Town Inventor is dead.

D7 begins, 12 alive 7 to lynch, deadline 23/03/16 at 14:00 CC Time.

Can not say that was a surprise.

Mets did you investigate?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Wing could we please prod /to see if he is alive and to invite him to play

Mod queries should be in bold and green! (This is why I dont pay much attention to text colour ever in mafia)

[PLAYER57832]

@ player...yes slash ended up being the only vote (with Rish) against me yesterday BUT...consider that scum trying to lynch me saw it was faltering and swapped to lynching one of their own to give them some cred...who was the hardest on me and one of the last to switch> IB,,,maybe slash is just trying to stay in the game rather than read more than 100 pages to work out what is happenning in this Bastard of a Game? I didn't vote for Rish,,,but then I didn't vote for anyone as I was well underattack and wanted to see who was hitting on me as Rish's ally...and who switched at the last moment...I think you will find scum in those who changed at the last minute than in those who basically haven;t posted at all...there is more than one way to play this game so don't get sucked in by the couple of folk who accuse you because you're not playing their way...

For me, the rish vote is irrelevant. I did not wind up in on that vote, either. My question is what evidence is there that you are town? I am not convinced you are mafia, not convinced you should be the lynch (even though I did vote for you for a time), but I am not convinced anyone else is better, either. Looking for answers/reasoning.

[PLAYER57832]

Just to clarify, when I say "rish vote is irrelevant", I just mean that DJ not joining in. I am not considering that, at least alone, as reason to call DJ scum. Overall, rish is definitely part of patterning.

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I'm here.
I can say that my actions haven't been relevant to the cases thus far, so of course I've kept quiet, leave the role-blockers, bus drivers and such guessing.
Do I still have actions? If so, how many? Does mafia need to kill me, or not? It's funner that way.

[Iron Butterfly]

I'm here.
I can say that my actions haven't been relevant to the cases thus far, so of course I've kept quiet, leave the role-blockers, bus drivers and such guessing.
Do I still have actions? If so, how many? Does mafia need to kill me, or not? It's funner that way.

While I can understand being coy if you truly are Town your response gives no reassurance you are Town either.

Give us your reads on players, which has been lacking. You suggested a couple of times I was cult and that Mets was scum after that. Where do you stand now.

[Ragian]

Darn it! Just as I was getting the hang of this game. Inadvertently, but still.

GO TOWN!

[the white rose]

Rag, you will be missed.

everyone seems to accept benji and deg as confirmed town now, but i am not so sure. would put them at 90% town....but you know if i were benji and knew deg and i were scum and had been given the definer....and the mods had told me that 2 of the 3 were scum, i would have changed that to 1, and when either of deg or rish been lynched and flipping scum, everyone would be clearing me and the other scum deg or rish.

It would be a master stroke, but it could be that benji and deg are both scum, they are both scum or both town, 90% town for me, but certainly not 100% confirmed town.

As to the rest, think we are looking at the ones that were not on the rish lynch. DJP remains my top pick, but i would happily support a slash lynch too.

[DJPatrick]

Still here...joined before XMas (I think) for an early New Year game...am going bushin two weeks and the way this is going it'll still be going when I'm out of range of everything but a Satphone...don't know if I can play from that but won't anyway due to $$$...this IS Aa weird town,,,maybe mafia should take over coz it's pretty damned straightlaced in how it reacts with each other...I'm okay with being out of here coz I'll be off line from 28/3 till 4/4 AEST (Australain Eastern Standard Time) but why kill a VT? I voted Lynch on the Monkey Man cox he pissed me off but have not voted any other Town...not many can say the same...agree that Benga and Deg are not confirmed 100% town , trust Deg but not so much Benga...but at this stage I'd look at /...aLSO TWR not convinced 100% on you given that it was always a referral but will defer to Deg's read...anyway VOTE /

[DJPatrick]

PS Player...stay strong...think you also are being railroaded and will be next to be scapegoated...just give it back to them all...at this stage at least 45% are scum and deserve it and of the rest if they keep hammering on you without valid reasons then they deserve it too!!!

[PLAYER57832]

I'm here.
I can say that my actions haven't been relevant to the cases thus far, so of course I've kept quiet, leave the role-blockers, bus drivers and such guessing.
Do I still have actions? If so, how many? Does mafia need to kill me, or not? It's funner that way.

IB is making sense in saying this is a pretty weak response. Not weak as in "I'm cnofused", but weak as in ... nothing there.

[PLAYER57832]

That is, you have basically said you are just playing with us, /. That can be taken a lot of ways, and even I don't think its a particularly town response.

But... not ready to vote yet.

[Iron Butterfly]

Man this crap is like pulling teeth. I know its the weekend and all.

Mets what was your investigation? What are your reads?