[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[Metsfanmax]

I'm starting to think that there's a massive con in the air, like twr is mafia godfather or something (hence immune to investigation), and he's playing us all for a giant fool.

[benga]

I'm starting to think that there's a massive con in the air, like twr is mafia godfather or something (hence immune to investigation), and he's playing us all for a giant fool.

if there is massive con it would be mitch and alladin
they both talk in gibberish, to confuse us

according to last days voting patter cm and / would be more scummy

[PLAYER57832]

By all... although I have come to the conclusion that mafia is just not my game, I appreciate the chance to try. If I ever do decide to give it another go, at least I will know what I am in for (and will choose a more regular game!).

Thank you!

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

By all... although I have come to the conclusion that mafia is just not my game, I appreciate the chance to try. If I ever do decide to give it another go, at least I will know what I am in for (and will choose a more regular game!).

Thank you!

I'll hopefully post more at endgame, but for now. Can i just suggest that play a smaller game next time, large ones get confusing really easily.

[Iron Butterfly]

By all... although I have come to the conclusion that mafia is just not my game, I appreciate the chance to try. If I ever do decide to give it another go, at least I will know what I am in for (and will choose a more regular game!).

Thank you!

Mafia is not for everyone Player but thanks for playing. To be honest this is a crappy game to get your feet wet. This is the most drawn out annoying game I have played. Sorry it was not a better experience.

[Metsfanmax]

IIRC this is the longest mafia game ever on CC. It really is a shitty way to get started.

[the white rose]

Yeah OK. You started the wagon on PLAYER, but somehow I'm the one responsible for her death, even though I never pushed for her, and went out of my way to say that the case wasn't especially strong.

mets, this isn't about whether you are scum or not, i am pretty certain you are and the only reason you were not lynched is to give you another day to give us scum, unlikley but one can never know.

no, this is about player. as soon as i build admittedly a weak case on her, known scum join the bw.....had player been scum i would have expected mets vote to be anywhere other than on player who he knows to be his scum buddy......the fact that he jumped onto the bw meant to me that player and mets were of differing alignment.....given that i strongly believe mets to be scum, meant player had to town and my case was wrong, therefore i quickly unvoted to reconsider.

if by trying to save a townie from being ganglynched makes people think that i am godfather than no wonder town is losing this game.

we need to think guys, most accepted mets as scum, and yet when he voted player everybody followed like lambs....thought the idea was to follow me not mets....this was bad play by some townies who were on the lynch. don't include aladdin as he voted before mets, but major questions must now be asked of slash and catcher who knowingly supported scum in lynching town

[Metsfanmax]

This is total bullshit. If you think I'm scum, you should have voted for me and stuck with it. It makes you look really weaselly to blame everyone else for following my lead when I am obviously scum. If I am obviously scum, I shouldn't still be alive right now. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

[madmitch]

Mets you are exactly right, everyone jumped ship except a brave few, are we right ? I guess we will find out in time about you.

[CatchersMitt14]

if by trying to save a townie from being ganglynched makes people think that i am godfather than no wonder town is losing this game.

we need to think guys, most accepted mets as scum, and yet when he voted player everybody followed like lambs....thought the idea was to follow me not mets....this was bad play by some townies who were on the lynch. don't include aladdin as he voted before mets, but major questions must now be asked of slash and catcher who knowingly supported scum in lynching town

In my optionous, TWR and Aladdin are fully responsivle for player's lynch. TWR, you got the highlighted parts correct, buttle you've attributed those actions to the wrong players.

[Metsfanmax]

Also: following confirmed town on who they think is scum is legitimate play. And that's what I did. But we don't all have to agree with them on whether we can afford a mislynch. That's a judgment call that has to be made by each person involved.

[the white rose]

Also: following confirmed town on who they think is scum is legitimate play. And that's what I did. But we don't all have to agree with them on whether we can afford a mislynch. That's a judgment call that has to be made by each person involved.

yes mets you are right,,,,if u were town then i would have expected you to follow me on the player lynch, the point is that i had already made up my mind that you were scum and therefore had your voting under spotlight and when you joined my bw, you effectively said, town have got it wrong again, lets help them get a mislynch. which is why i jumped as soon as i saw that.....and i was right to do that, had other townies been on line they too may have done so and player would still be alive.

it was never meant as a trap for scum but it sure worked like one. we need to ask catcher and slash why they followed a virtual confirmed mafia on to a lynch that your only confirmed townie had jumped off after mafia jumped on.....has the trap caught our 3 scum in one go?

mets, slash and catcher? not sure, but time will tell

[Metsfanmax]

Another post saying that I'm confirmed scum and instead of trying to lynch me, you voted no lynch.

Yawn.

[CatchersMitt14]

Also: following confirmed town on who they think is scum is legitimate play. And that's what I did. But we don't all have to agree with them on whether we can afford a mislynch. That's a judgment call that has to be made by each person involved.

yes mets you are right,,,,if u were town then i would have expected you to follow me on the player lynch, the point is that i had already made up my mind that you were scum and therefore had your voting under spotlight and when you joined my bw, you effectively said, town have got it wrong again, lets help them get a mislynch. which is why i jumped as soon as i saw that.....and i was right to do that, had other townies been on line they too may have done so and player would still be alive.

it was never meant as a trap for scum but it sure worked like one. we need to ask catcher and slash why they followed a virtual confirmed mafia on to a lynch that your only confirmed townie had jumped off after mafia jumped on.....has the trap caught our 3 scum in one go?

mets, slash and catcher? not sure, but time will tell

been thinking about this all day and come up with the conclusion that we are safer voting mets than player. so was gonna vote mets.

i still think he is 90% scum and had no need to build the pressure on player, if she was also scum, screramed a loud town noise for me.

it seems as though my instinct was again proven right, but none of you late (scum?) voters had the patience to wait till i got back.

mets now virtually 100% scum for me, but its not gonna help if we can't find his scum buddy

TWR, think this through. The only reason the player lynch happened is because you and Aladdin dug your heels in and made it so. Just own up to it. Maybe that's our scum pair ruight there. I'll definitly keep it in mind as we siee what the night brings. I still don't fully buy either of your stories this game. You can talk about patience all you want but you started tis wagin early on the 31st then waited until seven hours before the deadline and after player's folp to come back and say you want to vote for mets, that's over four real days you vote stood on player. Ultimately, you got what you wanted, the luynnch followed your lead.

Calling out mets and myself is crap. It just makes you look less and less reliable. While I'm not adcovating for or against mets, voting player was to be expected as this particular scenario ran it's course. Asking we I "followed a virtual confirmed mafia on to a lynch" is an extrememly loaded question as you make a large assumption we share your feelings about mets. I for one don't have him on my list as absolute scum. "Your only confirmed townie had jumped off," again no, you're not the only one. Slash, I've had him on my scum list for several days now. Tried again yesterday to get him lynched. You can possibly draw some conclusions there. I think that plus his vote on rish's lynch day is telling.

Alright, let me help you. You and Aladdin spent last night and yesterday emploring all the "confirmed" townies to follow your lead. From that you should've expected a minimum of four votes (TWR, Aladdin, rizky, and Benga). That alone puts whomever you select at L-2. Seeing as the other vote option to player was mets, he's most likely going to join you in interest of a lynch as he's not going to vote for himself. Not really al ltoo indicative of alginment, more like no options or self preservation. That gets you to L-1. We can possibly draw from this that there were more townies than the two fo you expected. That is assuming the four of you really are town.

You did get hurt a bit by player and benga. Player never switched her vote to mets making that lynch more difficult. Benga showed up way too late to give the "confirmed townies" much help. But he did what you wanted, and voted with you. Really that was the definintg point for me, once benga (the lasty "confirmed townie") put his vote on player I just played a good townie and followed suit.

Vote Count

Mets (2) - IB, Mitch
IB (1) - Players
Player (6) - Rizky, Aladdin, Mets, Benga, /, Catchers
No Lynch (1) - TWR

Deadline - 05/04/16 - 13:00 CC time, 6 to lynch

Players, Vanilla Townie, has been lynched.

Deadline for night actions 7/4/16 02:00 CC Time

[benga]

yeap, I was too late, so went with the lynch, my bad, cause i didn't believe he was scum, but voting for mets would i think give the same result
i am somewhat surprised how come mafia didn't win already, it seems like too low scum numbers in such big game
that's like 5 scum on 28 players
tomorrow will be last day, don't think we can afford another bad call

[Iron Butterfly]

TWR states he can not be lynched? We can try to lynch him and see if he is telling the truth? Wouldday end or continue if he can not be lynched?

[Metsfanmax]

TWR states he can not be lynched? We can try to lynch him and see if he is telling the truth? Wouldday end or continue if he can not be lynched?

I would be game for trying this, but only if the day does not end. My guess is that it would not, but can the mod comment?

[the white rose]

TWR states he can not be lynched? We can try to lynch him and see if he is telling the truth? Wouldday end or continue if he can not be lynched?

i really do not know, but its an important question as we cannot even afford a nolynch tomorrow.

i can ask the mods, see what they say

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

TWR states he can not be lynched? We can try to lynch him and see if he is telling the truth? Wouldday end or continue if he can not be lynched?

I would be game for trying this, but only if the day does not end. My guess is that it would not, but can the mod comment?

I wont answer questions about the mechanics of roles which may or may not exist.

[the white rose]

well, i have asked the mods by pm to clarify my role, and i can confirm that the day would continue until someone else was lynched or the deadline reached.

of course you only have my word for it, but then you only have my word that i am the town ghost.....

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

SURPRISE

Mafia kill Rizky during the night, and with that it is game over!

Rizky, Vanilla Townie, is dead.

GAME OVER

Metsfanmax, mafia godfather, is victorious
Aladdin Sane, mafia tuperbouco, is victorious
The White Rose, the Devil (mafia aligned), is victorious

/ (aka slash), Mafia Strategist, is endgamed
Madmitch, jester, is endgamed
Benga, Town Retired Cop, is endgamed
Iron Butterfly, Town 'Insane Asylum' Guard, is endgamed
CatchersMitt, Town Tuperbouco, is endgamed

I will let this sink in, and post the chat links, actions and role pms later this evening. Hopefully I will comment on some of your play as well, but there are 28 of you.

[Iron Butterfly]

Told ya so.

Most certainly a bastard game. Town was screwed with the no shows and the uncertainty. We never had clarity except for a brief moment with the inventors IE LSU flipping and by then it was to late as we could not protect against night kills or day votes.

I will say TWR would have the MVP as he had me fooled. Mets I was pretty certain when he was still alive.

This a great example of new players giving scum tells and Vets playing Town really well.

We were out manned and in the dark WOW.

Well done to all mafia though for playing it well.

Thanks to Wing for facilitating this train wreck]

[dakky21]

Post count:
AladdinSane 632
StorrZerg 371
WingCmdr Ginkapo 328
Iron Butterfly 278
degaston 244
PLAYER57832 213
Metsfanmax 199
the white rose 183
rizky_biznezz 136
Ragian 127
benga 117
madmitch 116
CatchersMitt14 76
DJPatrick 70
rishaed 52
LSU Tiger Josh 48
ptlowe 48
dakky21 46
/ 44
Streaker 42
Falkomagno 39
Whatsausage 19
Marashu 18
mtamburini 18
thechuck51 10

[Metsfanmax]

TWR for MVP

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

TWR for MVP

Did you even have any idea that was coming? (For those who arent aware, The White Rose was not aware who his partners were, and the rest of mafia were not aware of the existance of another member)