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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 0#p5349880
What about Scotland. This vote was the whole uk, not parts.Metsfanmax wrote:How about Scotland?
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:What about Scotland. This vote was the whole uk, not parts.Metsfanmax wrote:How about Scotland?
Good for them. They are still being dragged out of the EU.Bernie Sanders wrote:WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:What about Scotland. This vote was the whole uk, not parts.Metsfanmax wrote:How about Scotland?![]()
Scotland voted to stay!
Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
True, both the EU and the UK are now screwed. There are no winners. Harsh decisions have to be made.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
sorry the EU has never been about the UK... it's about France and Germany since its inception. Have fun as you see your economy collapse!WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.

The UK should give back Gibraltar to Spain. I'd stop hearing people around here whine about it.waauw wrote:True, both the EU and the UK are now screwed. There are no winners. Harsh decisions have to be made.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
Then again, the EU doesn't have to destroy the British economy. That's in nobody's interest. All they will probably push for is a deal that makes the UK worse off than inside the EU. Personally I think we'll probably end up with a deal somewhere in the middle between what the UK used to get and what Switzerland and Norway get now, a compromise.
Some of the more annoying issues of course are Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar(to a much less important extent). The more likely it seems one of them is to leave the UK, the less strong the British position, and vice versa. Both the UK and the EU are on the clock now. The UK to dissuade these regions from independency, and the EU to dissuade their own opposition parties. So in a sense it's also a race about which movements develop the fastest.

France? Nothing has ever been about France. Everbetiko wrote:sorry the EU has never been about the UK... it's about France and Germany since its inception. Have fun as you see your economy collapse!WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Unfortunately for you the UK knows its position far too well. Drive too high a bargain and we wont contribute to the EU in exchange for access to the single market. And without us, Germany cant carry the EU alone.waauw wrote:I'm missing the "none" option. The EU, especially France, Italy and the Netherlands will now be forced to push for rapid EU reforms and to install harsh conditions on the UK so as to discredit their own far right opposition parties.
Basically the EU is screwed either way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire_Politicsmrswdk wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire
52% of people in the UK voted to leave. Drawing a little line around all the areas in which a majority voted Remain doesn't change the fact that the majority of people in the country voted Leave.Conchobar wrote:The United Kingdom did not vote to leave the EU. England and Wales did.
Scotland should get another independence referendum and be allowed to stay in.
They should give Gibraltar to the Prudential life insurance company. The Rock has been their logo since the 1890's.betiko wrote:The UK should give back Gibraltar to Spain. I'd stop hearing people around here whine about it.

They should make Dwayne Johnson the President of Gibraltar.tzor wrote:They should give Gibraltar to the Prudential life insurance company. The Rock has been their logo since the 1890's.betiko wrote:The UK should give back Gibraltar to Spain. I'd stop hearing people around here whine about it.