PKMN Beach Mafia: Cult Wins

[BuJaber]

Well, I dig your style too, man. Between the liking of the style and having of the hat and the reference to eating, I think I have decyphered your soft claim


(a screenshot from that Pokemon movie)

This is the part I asked about. But now that I read it again while searching for it I think I just misunderstood. Read it as "of the hat reference" and the you posted a picture of a guy in a hat, am I missing something here? I want to laugh too

Thanks mandy for making it fun again; kinda sucked checking on this every night only to find people mainly talking about how scummy I've been. Even when pointing the gun at me you're cracking jokes and making it a fun experience.



Also I'm just gonna leave this here...

vote BuJaber because that one time I wanted to lynch him he should have been scum except the reality got it wrong so he wasn't. What are the chances that reality makes the same mistake twice? Logicked!

[mandalorian2298]

In order to respond, I have to include aage's post which I was responding to:

Manda, your case on strike/rish is that rish wrote strike? Unlike in a live game, he would have considered it, written it, and (if scum) read it over to make sure he didn't tip anyone off. I don't think that degree of carelessness is telling, and I don't think it's a slip.

He was directly responding to BuJaber's post and he obviously wrote "Strike" instead of "BuJaber". And I want to know: Why? There has to be a reason. Also notice that he has not responded to my accusation as of yet. Why?

Rishead, if there is another explanation of why you wrote "Strike" instead of "BuJaber", I think that you should provide it. Until such time, you are my target of choice for the Day 1 lynch.

It's fairly easily explained, I think.

Strike the reason i asked if he was new, was that each person has 2 victory conditions.

Rish wasn't addressing BuJaber directly, evidenced by his usage of the third person pronoun "he" (referencing to BuJaber), which Rish wouldn't have used if he was consciously addressing BuJaber directly while subconsciously thinking of Strike. From his use of that pronoun it seems obvious to me that he was under the impression that Strike made a post about this, and was directly responding to Strike. I'm guessing Rish was under the impression that this post was Strike's, and the switch up can be easily explained by the fact that Rish's post is preceded directly by a post by Strike Wolf.

It's not quite the Freudian slip you're trying to make of it. If Rish and Strike do turn out scum I will of course eat both my words and my hat, but I don't think your theory holds water. Good to know you're paying attention to such details, though. I like the style.

Well, I dig your style too, man. Between the liking of the style and having of the hat and the reference to eating, I think I have decyphered your soft claim


(a screenshot from that Pokemon movie)

This is the part I asked about. But now that I read it again while searching for it I think I just misunderstood. Read it as "of the hat reference" and the you posted a picture of a guy in a hat, am I missing something here? I want to laugh too

Thanks mandy for making it fun again; kinda sucked checking on this every night only to find people mainly talking about how scummy I've been. Even when pointing the gun at me you're cracking jokes and making it a fun experience.



Also I'm just gonna leave this here...

vote BuJaber because that one time I wanted to lynch him he should have been scum except the reality got it wrong so he wasn't. What are the chances that reality makes the same mistake twice? Logicked!

OK, I was making with the funny as in that aage sounded (to an ordained dudist priest ) like the Stranger from the movie "Big Lebowski", because of the parts I purpled.

He reminded me of this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R07cCydCeY

[mandalorian2298]

And also, you are very welcome. It's nice to play with you even when you are my no. 1 candidate for the rope.

[strike wolf]

@gregwolf: no I am not a bomb or anything like that. So thanks for the role fish. I just had a lot of fun in that game and wanted to post it because I personally had a lot of fun with that moment.

@Buj: you pulled a lot of these same stunts where you made a mistake and then tried to play it off that mafia wouldn't make mistakes in the last game I played with you. You turned out to be third party and those mistakes were often related to players that your win condition wanted you to get lynched. So no I'm not going to buy your defense and vaguely hinting at there being a reason you are doing this and then not sharing that reason doesn't help your case. It's like if I was to talk to Obama and

Me: Mr president we have to kill person x.

Obama: why do we have to kill person can?

Me: I can't tell you but it is very important to me.

That said, you have the most votes whether I vote you or not so I would like to look at other cases

unvote mandy for now as well. Though I still am looking forward to trash talking about getting him lynched day 1 so no promises I won't come back to it.

So the most obvious case would be Tim. 2 blatant bandwagon votes and whatever the logic is on this second one:

looking at it after a day with BU's vote he jsut casted it looks like hes to a point trying to save mitch by putting mandy ahead of mitcch in votes, why would he be trying to save someone unless he knows the alignment??[b]Vote BUJ

IB I mentioned earlier for pursuing an easy case on Mitch. As others have noted his activity is down.

People have mentioned Aage and Greg not posting much but unless I missed a few posts, I could say that Rish has done the same. Don't think anyone has mentioned him.

Dakky and Marashu read town to me so far.

[HotShot53]

I meant what I said about not revealing more.
I claimed everything town needs to know. Anything more will be too dangerous for me; and it won't make the decision to believe me or not easier.

However, I've thought about the possible consequences, and while it will negate everything I've tried to do so far, I think it will help town make the right decision if I tell everyone that I have a passive bulletproof ability. Also since it sounds like just a flavor thing and not something that will affect the game, but might tell somebody something, my pokemon can't swim.
So basically my claim so far: graveler, bulletproof, can't swim, town.

You don't understand... not full claiming is more dangerous than whatever your claim is, since getting lynched is the surest way to die, and without a claim there is no reason to change our votes. Also, if you are bulletproof, then getting lynched is the only thing you should fear... so it really makes no sense. The only reason for not full claiming I can think of now is that you don't have a good fake claim to make so you are trying to just bluff your way through this. So my vote will stay.

[rishaed]

I meant what I said about not revealing more.
I claimed everything town needs to know. Anything more will be too dangerous for me; and it won't make the decision to believe me or not easier.

However, I've thought about the possible consequences, and while it will negate everything I've tried to do so far, I think it will help town make the right decision if I tell everyone that I have a passive bulletproof ability. Also since it sounds like just a flavor thing and not something that will affect the game, but might tell somebody something, my pokemon can't swim.
So basically my claim so far: graveler, bulletproof, can't swim, town.

You don't understand... not full claiming is more dangerous than whatever your claim is, since getting lynched is the surest way to die, and without a claim there is no reason to change our votes. Also, if you are bulletproof, then getting lynched is the only thing you should fear... so it really makes no sense. The only reason for not full claiming I can think of now is that you don't have a good fake claim to make so you are trying to just bluff your way through this. So my vote will stay.

Im slightly concerned about the fact that he said that he can't swim.. I'm unsure if that's relevant. Also his play as a BP is really not great. You obviously want a little attention or mass town cred, but not enough that you have to claim. I'm really on the fence. On one hand he's throwing out pretty nice information that makes we want to say he's town, on the other hand he's making some pretty basic player errors?

[mandalorian2298]

OK guys, the deadline is comming and while I appreciate being thoughtfull and stuff, this would be an excellent time to grow a pair and hammer the guy who gave so much Scumm-tells that you can probably run Monkey Island I on him (retro gaming joke ).

BuJaber has a) advocated randomization of votes, b) soft-claimed PGO/Bomb/Bullet Proof/Please-don't-target-me-for-whatever-reason-you-choose, c) shamelessly revenge voted AND bandwagoned me at once and then d) offered a freaking WIFOM as a defence for all of the above!

WTF are you all waiting for?! Does he have to post a video of himself stroking a white cat and cackling maniacly while he burns Metropolis to the ground??!!
I don't normally mind being in danger but if THIS Day 1 ends up as a coin toss between BuJaber and Mitch/myself, then I will be expecting each of you to come up with a good explanation why BuJaber's actions didn't warrent your vote.

[aage]

Don't worry mandy, at this point I'll happily unvote, vote BuJaber. Town is rarely bulletproof and when they are they don't have mystical second abilities they can't reveal. And if he does flip town we have a nice wagon to analyse.

[aage]

For the record, I do not oppose videos of stroking white cats while causing havoc.

[strike wolf]

I've always wondered if sitting on the fence hurt a lot. I guses I should ask Rish since his last post makes him an expert on the subject.

[rishaed]

I've always wondered if sitting on the fence hurt a lot. I guses I should ask Rish since his last post makes him an expert on the subject.

It does. Quite a bit.
On one hand I'd like to vote him b/c we are almost out of time.
On the other I feel like he's a mislynch. I'm not really keen on lynching someone who has one of my stronger town vibes d1.
Also this Secondary WC thing is causing another level of frustration to be analyzed into play. I can't understand why he'd intentionally by his own admission draw so much attention as a bulletproof with an instant claim out of nowhere, when its almost certain that when he claims, he won't get the wagon off of him. I'm suspicious of it. Its ringing alarm bells in my mind like none other. Which is another reason why i'm not really keen on voting him.

[dakky21]

Actually I have strange feeling as well that BuJaber is town, despite his errors and (bad) defenses... meta again and this time positive one, despite my pushing on him... he is either desperate scum or desperate town, but with all those non full claim thing, I still think he is scum... but maybe his 2nd WC says get killed D1... we don't know that... if that is, he did a magnificent job... on the other hand, Tim is unreadable and I mean really unreadable, his messages are like he is 6 years old, I didn't understand a word what he said... like he is posting just to post. I guess it's too late to switch to Tim, but we should have him in mind D2, especially if I get NK'ed N1.

[william18]

I meant what I said about not revealing more.
I claimed everything town needs to know. Anything more will be too dangerous for me; and it won't make the decision to believe me or not easier.

However, I've thought about the possible consequences, and while it will negate everything I've tried to do so far, I think it will help town make the right decision if I tell everyone that I have a passive bulletproof ability. Also since it sounds like just a flavor thing and not something that will affect the game, but might tell somebody something, my pokemon can't swim.
So basically my claim so far: graveler, bulletproof, can't swim, town.

You don't understand... not full claiming is more dangerous than whatever your claim is, since getting lynched is the surest way to die, and without a claim there is no reason to change our votes. Also, if you are bulletproof, then getting lynched is the only thing you should fear... so it really makes no sense. The only reason for not full claiming I can think of now is that you don't have a good fake claim to make so you are trying to just bluff your way through this. So my vote will stay.

This is exactly what I thought as well. Him not claiming instantly reminded me of dakky from the historical mafia. Bullet proof town/'cant say much else". Im thinking now that if bujaber is scum, then mitch is also scum, since although he 'agrees' with my theory, he voted mandy instead of mitch. Perhaps because mitch is mafia and mandy isnt? Only one way to find out. I don't wanna hammer in case of some sort of 'wacky' role, but i will facilitate his lynch.

unvote mitch

[william18]

opps

unvote madmitch

[DoomYoshi]

Vote Count


BuJaber (7) - dakky21, Marashu, mandalorian2298,TimWoodbury, madmitch, Hotshot53, aage
madmitch (2) - Iron Butterfly, Army of GOD
mandalorian2298 (1) - BuJaber

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch, or the most votes at deadline.

Deadline: August 10th

If day ended now, BuJaber would be lynched.

[TimWoodbury]

Actually I have strange feeling as well that BuJaber is town, despite his errors and (bad) defenses... meta again and this time positive one, despite my pushing on him... he is either desperate scum or desperate town, but with all those non full claim thing, I still think he is scum... but maybe his 2nd WC says get killed D1... we don't know that... if that is, he did a magnificent job... on the other hand, Tim is unreadable and I mean really unreadable, his messages are like he is 6 years old, I didn't understand a word what he said... like he is posting just to post. I guess it's too late to switch to Tim, but we should have him in mind D2, especially if I get NK'ed N1.

My typing has always been bad and you jnow that ps im on my phone now on lu chbreaj at worj.

[DoomYoshi]

Deadline is tonight around 1730 EDT (15 hours from now). If Iron Butterfly doesn't post by then, he will be replaced.

[mandalorian2298]

Actually I have strange feeling as well that BuJaber is town, despite his errors and (bad) defenses... meta again and this time positive one, despite my pushing on him... he is either desperate scum or desperate town, but with all those non full claim thing, I still think he is scum... but maybe his 2nd WC says get killed D1... we don't know that... if that is, he did a magnificent job... on the other hand, Tim is unreadable and I mean really unreadable, his messages are like he is 6 years old, I didn't understand a word what he said... like he is posting just to post. I guess it's too late to switch to Tim, but we should have him in mind D2, especially if I get NK'ed N1.

My typing has always been bad and you jnow that ps im on my phone now on lu chbreaj at worj.

Well said.

[BuJaber]

Scum won't kill me now anyway because they know I'm bulletproof so everything I've done so far is void. If you guys want to kill me just to be sure then go ahead, but I'm telling you right now since by some miracle I haven't been killed that you still have time to prevent the mislynch. I haven't lied. I've only hid a tiny little bit of information that has nothing to do with alignment.

And I will quote mandy's joke vote again after (if) I get lynched. Because it is absolutely hilarious to me. I will immortalize it as the worst day 1 town play ever (especially me).

[dakky21]

Actually I have strange feeling as well that BuJaber is town, despite his errors and (bad) defenses... meta again and this time positive one, despite my pushing on him... he is either desperate scum or desperate town, but with all those non full claim thing, I still think he is scum... but maybe his 2nd WC says get killed D1... we don't know that... if that is, he did a magnificent job... on the other hand, Tim is unreadable and I mean really unreadable, his messages are like he is 6 years old, I didn't understand a word what he said... like he is posting just to post. I guess it's too late to switch to Tim, but we should have him in mind D2, especially if I get NK'ed N1.

My typing has always been bad and you jnow that ps im on my phone now on lu chbreaj at worj.

Well said.

Mandy, wtf?! So you support him for bad typing despite he didn't say shit during D1? Are you two a scum pair?

[mandalorian2298]

Actually I have strange feeling as well that BuJaber is town, despite his errors and (bad) defenses... meta again and this time positive one, despite my pushing on him... he is either desperate scum or desperate town, but with all those non full claim thing, I still think he is scum... but maybe his 2nd WC says get killed D1... we don't know that... if that is, he did a magnificent job... on the other hand, Tim is unreadable and I mean really unreadable, his messages are like he is 6 years old, I didn't understand a word what he said... like he is posting just to post. I guess it's too late to switch to Tim, but we should have him in mind D2, especially if I get NK'ed N1.

My typing has always been bad and you jnow that ps im on my phone now on lu chbreaj at worj.

Well said.

Mandy, wtf?! So you support him for bad typing despite he didn't say shit during D1? Are you two a scum pair?

"But...it was so artistically done."

Also, I loled.

[aage]

Actually I have strange feeling as well that BuJaber is town, despite his errors and (bad) defenses... meta again and this time positive one, despite my pushing on him... he is either desperate scum or desperate town, but with all those non full claim thing, I still think he is scum... but maybe his 2nd WC says get killed D1... we don't know that... if that is, he did a magnificent job... on the other hand, Tim is unreadable and I mean really unreadable, his messages are like he is 6 years old, I didn't understand a word what he said... like he is posting just to post. I guess it's too late to switch to Tim, but we should have him in mind D2, especially if I get NK'ed N1.

My typing has always been bad and you jnow that ps im on my phone now on lu chbreaj at worj.

Well said.

Mandy, wtf?! So you support him for bad typing despite he didn't say shit during D1? Are you two a scum pair?

Obvious sarcasm is obvious.

[aage]

Actually, I take that back. Damn internets with your text-based communication.

[Army of GOD]

well if no one is going to hammer AND no one is going to take their vote off BuJ, we're just wasting time at this point


whatever, sorry BuJ


unvote vote BuJaber

[BuJaber]

Since Lynch isn't official yet, I reckon I can still say something.

Rish and dakky both said they have a feeling I'm town but kept their votes on me. I still think dakky is town, but that's something to look at more closely going forward because it sounds like maybe they wanted a defense when people start analyzing the bandwagon.

Good luck