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You presume that God created knowledge without reason, but it is the knowledge God gave you and the facilities God gave that allow you to even consider this. Also, your characterization of God and Satan is so incorrect its just a pretty sad attempt at argument, not anything worth debating..... and I pretty much debate anything, but this is just stupid.mrswdk wrote:God
Creates knowledge for no purpose other than to ban humans from acquiring it
When two humans acquire that knowledge, punishes not just them but all of their ancestors in revenge
Wants to keep humans as his ignorant pets
Satan
Attempted to educate humans despite God's brutal threats
Risked everything to help the humans
Was made a martyr
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
Funny, I was expecting this to be a question about Prometheus Bound.waauw wrote:Hail Prometheus!
Concepts of God or Satan are not accepted by the atheists, what voting options did you give to them?mrswdk wrote:God
Creates knowledge for no purpose other than to ban humans from acquiring it
When two humans acquire that knowledge, punishes not just them but all of their ancestors in revenge
Wants to keep humans as his ignorant pets
Satan
Attempted to educate humans despite God's brutal threats
Risked everything to help the humans
Was made a martyr
I guess you do believe in moral relativism after all then.DoomYoshi wrote:Just last week I read Prometheus Bound again. At first, I was thinking... How is he a hero? He directly contravened Zeus' will. Zeus was going to destroy humans and it is proper that he should have. Why would anyone syphathze with him unless they were thinking from a human perspective? That's the brilliance of Aescyhlus since he forces you to realize that only by viewing the world from the perspective of a human can you fully understand your role in the universe
As far as mrswdk's actual question is concerned: would you rather live forever or be smarter?
Interesting, sounds like a book I should add to my to-read list. Thx.DoomYoshi wrote:Funny, I was expecting this to be a question about Prometheus Bound.waauw wrote:Hail Prometheus!
There are 3 categories of beings according to both Eastern and Western traditions. Animal, angel and God are three classes that at various points in his history man has self-identified with. Only when he realizes that he is human, as distinct from the other 3 can he truly be said to be living without sin.
Just last week I read Prometheus Bound again. At first, I was thinking... How is he a hero? He directly contravened Zeus' will. Zeus was going to destroy humans and it is proper that he should have. Why would anyone syphathze with him unless they were thinking from a human perspective? That's the brilliance of Aescyhlus since he forces you to realize that only by viewing the world from the perspective of a human can you fully understand your role in the universe. The questions such as WWJD and "how would god look at this" distort your thinking.
Then Aeschylus brings in Io, just to make the point that this isn't the Christian/Satan story but something entirely different. Zeus is a prick and so is his wife.
As far as mrswdk's actual question is concerned: would you rather live forever or be smarter?
-------Wait....Humans or Angels(Good or Bad)???????mrswdk wrote:Why does a God capable of creating the entire universe need slaves to tend its garden for it?
...Yes! God needs pets too... 
...Have you seen today's world. God's very own ant farm... 
ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... 
mrswdk wrote:Why does a God capable of creating the entire universe need slaves to tend its garden for it?
Sister Miriam Godwinson wrote:Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?
Why do you value mother Mary over Jesus?tzor wrote:The story of Genesis is an interesting tale, but it's easy to get things turned around and as a result one can get disoriented within the story. There is an interesting note in the commentary in the New American Bible Revised Edition, "It should be noted, however, that the garden was not intended as a paradise for the human race, but as a pleasure park for God; the man tended it for God."
So you, like, repeated my question but used different words.Dukasaur wrote:mrswdk wrote:Why does a God capable of creating the entire universe need slaves to tend its garden for it?Sister Miriam Godwinson wrote:Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?
Yeah, pretty much.mrswdk wrote:So you, like, repeated my question but used different words.Dukasaur wrote:mrswdk wrote:Why does a God capable of creating the entire universe need slaves to tend its garden for it?Sister Miriam Godwinson wrote:Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?
http://www.desiringgod.org/messages/why ... -the-worldAfter the question: “Does God exist?” to which God answers, “I Am” (Exodus 3:14), the next question that has shaped us most deeply at Bethlehem is: Why did God create the world?
The short answer that resounds through the whole Bible like rolling thunder is: God created the world for his glory. We’ll talk in a moment what that means, but let’s establish the fact first.
Notice the key verses in Isaiah 43:6b–7, “Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the end of the earth, everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made.” Even if the most narrow meaning here is “I brought Israel into being for my glory” the use of the words “created,” “formed,” and “made” are pointing us back to the original act of creation. This is why Israel ultimately exists. Because this is why all things ultimately exist — for the glory of God.
Hahaha, LMAO. Hits the nail on the head.mrswdk wrote:So you, like, repeated my question but used different words.Dukasaur wrote:mrswdk wrote:Why does a God capable of creating the entire universe need slaves to tend its garden for it?Sister Miriam Godwinson wrote:Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?
Slaves? Why this was the ideal working conditions, free food, free lodging, a very loose dress code ...mrswdk wrote:Why does a God capable of creating the entire universe need slaves to tend its garden for it?
