Wheel of Fortune [TPA4 Premier] (COMPLETE - RedBaron0 Wins!!

[Mad777]

This tournament is still active with ongoing game, also there is one game that is awaiting a player.

[Mad777]

This tournament is still active with ongoing game.

[Mad777]

This tournament is still active with ongoing game.

[Mad777]

This tournament is still active with no ongoing game as of yet (last ongoing game finished yesterday).

[sempaispellcheck]

The Round of 24 finally begins today! Now let's see how many of the 24 are still here.

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[sempaispellcheck]

MGSteve replaces Nicho in Game B.
JELO replaces LLLUUUKKKEEE in Game F.
RICHARDJOHN replaces dean00 in Game F.

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[sempaispellcheck]

Swifte replaces Aussie02 in Game A.
subprime replaces Gilligan in Game A.
overlander replaces slownumbers in Game A.
theheadholes replaces kiwi3 in Game A.
MyTurnToWin replaces Risk_Averse in Game C.
bernooch replaces rjhankey in Game D.
aalii replaces DresdenSooner in Game E.
wombat4 replaces Gcool in Game E.

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[Swifte]

The first round took 3 years... That's not fair to the rest of people waiting on TPA 4 to conclude, nor most participants as the amount of people now missing clearly indicates. The tournament can not continue with no adjustment, plain and simple. Please inform us of the adjustments that will be made to ensure this tournament will conclude in an efficient manner.

[sempaispellcheck]

The main reason the first round took 3 years to complete is that it is highly reliant on people's responses to my PMs. Several players refused to respond to the PMs that I sent, and real life concerns often prevented me from enforcing the 48-hour deadlines I set.
I will be much more diligent about enforcing these deadlines going forward.

On the subject of adjustments, I am debating merging the final two rounds into a single Round of 6. The only drawback to this adjustment is that, since games only have four rounds, not all players will have the chance to start a round. In such a scenario, there would probably be a coin toss game to determine who starts the first round, and then the winners of each round would start the next round.

Do you have any suggestions?

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[Swifte]

It required 17 consecutive 4 player games on average for each grouping to be resolved, which means some took longer some shorter. That's impossible to do in a single year, would more like be at least 2 if it plays out again. Just for the time to play the games. Somehow you have to reduce the number of games to be played.

Fewer puzzles per 'round'.
Bonuses for solving faster as opposed to trying to milk every $ out of every letter.
My personal favorite: If the guesser gets a letter right, re-spin your random wheel and they can guess again without playing another game. Only play another game when the person in control of the wheel hits bankrupt or guesses wrong.

90 games were trench with a 30 game round limit. Ban trench and/or lower the round limit.

There are many things you can do. I don't really care what it is. But it is stunning to me that 25% of the people that advanced to the second round aren't even active enough to play and yet nothing was going to be done to address the issues with this tournament. So many alarm bells should be going off that this structure is not working. And as mentioned, it's completely unfair to the rest of TPA 4 to continue to wait on this event another 6 years. Significant changes need to be made.

[sempaispellcheck]

25% of the people that advanced to the second round aren't even active enough to play

People leave CC all the time. All told, 11 players had to be replaced to start this round. That is not a large number. I'm sure I had to replace over 100 people when I did the Pentathlon, and that tourney lasted 10 months.

Fewer puzzles per 'round'.

I could do that, but I'm not sure I like it - because then not everyone gets the chance to start a round.
Though maybe they don't have to - it could just be that the player who solves the puzzle starts the next round.

Bonuses for solving faster as opposed to trying to milk every $ out of every letter.

Except you can't you tell the difference between someone who's trying to milk every $ out of it and someone who legitimately doesn't know the solution and doesn't want to waste money buying vowels.

My personal favorite: If the guesser gets a letter right, re-spin your random wheel and they can guess again without playing another game. Only play another game when the person in control of the wheel hits bankrupt or guesses wrong.

Again, I could do that, but I'm not sure I like it - mostly because the outcome of the game has a sizable impact on where the wheel lands - you're not going to land on Bankrupt if you win your game, and you're not going to hit the Jackpot if you're the first player eliminated.

90 games were trench with a 30 game round limit. Ban trench and/or lower the round limit.

Lowering the round limit seems fair - it was arbitrary from the beginning - but I don't want to discriminate against players who like trench.

So, changes I'm considering:
3 puzzles per round, instead of 4 - puzzle solver starts next round.
Only 1 game per player's turn - decision to spin wheel after correct guess yields completely random $ amount.
Lowering round limit from 30 to 20.
Merging final 2 rounds into single round.

That sound OK?

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[Swifte]

Sounds good.. bet we just cut the remaining time in half, at least. Thanks sempai.

[rjhankey]

Whoops -- guess I'm too late to let you know I'm still around, just hadn't logged on in a while. Sorry about that, good luck with the rest of the tourney!

Swifte replaces Aussie02 in Game A.
subprime replaces Gilligan in Game A.
overlander replaces slownumbers in Game A.
theheadholes replaces kiwi3 in Game A.
MyTurnToWin replaces Risk_Averse in Game C.
bernooch replaces rjhankey in Game D.
aalii replaces DresdenSooner in Game E.
wombat4 replaces Gcool in Game E.

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[sempaispellcheck]

So, changes I'm considering:
3 puzzles per round, instead of 4 - puzzle solver starts next round.
Only 1 game per player's turn - decision to spin wheel after correct guess yields completely random $ amount.
Lowering round limit from 30 to 20.
Merging final 2 rounds into single round.

These changes have now officially been made.

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[RICHARDJOHN]

i was wondering what the clue is for the game i am in. i noticed that there is one 's' but i cannot find what the clue is. looks like you have your hands full but when you get a chance, can you send out the clue or point me in the right direction, thanks.

[sempaispellcheck]

i was wondering what the clue is for the game i am in. i noticed that there is one 's' but i cannot find what the clue is. looks like you have your hands full but when you get a chance, can you send out the clue or point me in the right direction, thanks.

You will be informed of the category when it is your turn to guess a letter.

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[sempaispellcheck]

Evil Semp replaces denominator in Game D.

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shoop76 replaces subprime in Game A.

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[Mad777]

Tournament verified and active still, game in progress.

[Mad777]

Tournament verified and active still, game in progress.

Note: Game 17370972 has a missing player.

[sempaispellcheck]

Mad777 replaces Swifte in Game A.

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[Mad777]

Mad777 replaces Swifte in Game A.

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What happened?

[sempaispellcheck]

Mad777 replaces Swifte in Game A.

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What happened?

He sent me a PM telling me he would no longer be playing CC and asking to be replaced.

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[Mad777]

Mad777 replaces Swifte in Game A.

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What happened?

He sent me a PM telling me he would no longer be playing CC and asking to be replaced.

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Ok...he is part of the Madness in Rio, I hope he won't drop it....

[Mad777]

Tournament verified and active still, games in progress.