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mookiemcgee wrote:Where's Saxi on this one? too busy writing the next big distraction piece for the trump admin?
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
notyou2 wrote:My thoughts are with the NRA. They must be giving billions in political donations this year.
mookiemcgee wrote:Where's Saxi on this one? too busy writing the next big distraction piece for the trump admin?
betiko wrote:Last time we had a terrorist attack in france, smart ass trump said that it wouldn t happen if our population had guns.
Looks like no american brings his gun to church, food for thought.
saxitoxin wrote:betiko wrote:Last time we had a terrorist attack in france, smart ass trump said that it wouldn t happen if our population had guns.
Looks like no american brings his gun to church, food for thought.
Actually, the shooting was stopped when two passers-by saw what was happening and opened fire on the shooter with their own weapons. A gun battle then ensued between the shooter and community members. The shooter - under superior and unrelenting fire from citizens - fled and was pursued by local residents who forced his car off the road. The Texas Department of Public Safety has still yet to determine if the shooter committed suicide or died from being shot by community members.
If not for these two community members, Sutherland Springs could have turned into another Paris. Fortunately there is still only one Paris, Texas.
Also, it turns out the shooter was an atheist, which is probably why he targeted a church. We need to work on de-radicalizing and mainstreaming atheists; the atheist community needs to stand-up and take responsibility for its role in tragedies such as this.
betiko wrote:Also, in france we have stuff called the police, or special forces that are kind of better qualified than hillbillies with shotguns to stop murderous nutcases.
A heavily armed gunman has opened fire on a high-speed train travelling from Amsterdam to Paris before being overpowered by three US citizens. A British passenger, Chris Norman, helped the Americans tie up the suspect.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ ... man-france
betiko wrote:26 killed, i guess that is a great success!
saxitoxin wrote:betiko wrote:26 killed, i guess that is a great success!
yup
Sulfur Springs - 26 dead (100 police available)
Paris - 137 dead (34,000 police available)
betiko wrote:saxitoxin wrote:betiko wrote:26 killed, i guess that is a great success!
yup
Sulfur Springs - 26 dead (100 police available)
Paris - 137 dead (34,000 police available)
Can you talk in %?
How many people in that church, how many in the bataclan? And how many terrorists during that operation in paris vs your lone wolf?
Now do the same math for the vegas shooting... oh sorry... your next comeback is so lame, i can see it from up here. It says... up yours!
waauw wrote:betiko wrote:saxitoxin wrote:betiko wrote:26 killed, i guess that is a great success!
yup
Sulfur Springs - 26 dead (100 police available)
Paris - 137 dead (34,000 police available)
Can you talk in %?
How many people in that church, how many in the bataclan? And how many terrorists during that operation in paris vs your lone wolf?
Now do the same math for the vegas shooting... oh sorry... your next comeback is so lame, i can see it from up here. It says... up yours!
I'll do it for him. fire-arm related death rate(homicides):
- USA: 3.6 per 100,000 people
- France: 0.21 per 100,000 people
Interestingly countries with similar rates to the USA are Nicaragua(3.72) and Barbados(3.12), whilst France is in the company of Denmark(0.22) and Switzerland(0.21).
Another number; the murder rate per 100,000 inhabitants(not fire-arm specific):
- USA: 4.88 per 100,000
- France: 1.58 per 100,000
Some nations with a lower intentional murder rate than the USA: Cuba, Rwanda, Niger, North-Korea, Iran, Lebanon, Liberia, Egypt, ...
saxitoxin wrote:Not that surprising. All of the Americas generally have a higher homicide rate than Europe. The United States actually has one of the lowest homicide rates among its peer (Pan-American) nations. Argentina, Uruguay, French departments in the Americas (e.g. Guiana, Saint Pierre and Miquelon), Danish possessions in the Americas (e.g. Greenland), British colonies in the Americas (e.g. Montserrat, Anguilla), all have higher murder rates than the U.S.
It could be because we have liberal living spaces with ample, plentiful land, and sprawling homes and properties, whereas - in Europe - people are crammed together and can't really sneeze without fifty police noticing. Hard to say.
waauw wrote:
The large majority of the americas is also third world.
waauw wrote:Taking a look at crime rates, the USA does better than europe and Canada, but it comes at a cost. People are less inclined towards violence because of gun laws in the USA, but because of those very laws the lethality of crimes is higher as well. THAT is the difference. The USA is sacrificing lives for mere lower burglary rates.
saxitoxin wrote:waauw wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Not that surprising. All of the Americas generally have a higher homicide rate than Europe. The United States actually has one of the lowest homicide rates among its peer (Pan-American) nations. Argentina, Uruguay, French departments in the Americas (e.g. Guiana, Saint Pierre and Miquelon), Danish possessions in the Americas (e.g. Greenland), British colonies in the Americas (e.g. Montserrat, Anguilla), all have higher murder rates than the U.S.
It could be because we have liberal living spaces with ample, plentiful land, and sprawling homes and properties, whereas - in Europe - people are crammed together and can't really sneeze without fifty police noticing. Hard to say.
The large majority of the americas is also third world. The USA being a wealthy nation should do better. Just take a look at the other rich nation in the americas, Canada. The canadians only count 0.38 fire-arm related homicides per 100,000 and a general murder rate of only 1.68 per 100,000.
Taking a look at crime rates, the USA does better than europe and Canada, but it comes at a cost. People are less inclined towards violence because of gun laws in the USA, but because of those very laws the lethality of crimes is higher as well. THAT is the difference. The USA is sacrificing lives for mere lower burglary rates.
Burglary is a common crime that impacts millions. Homicide is an exotic crime that impacts very few people. Even in South Africa, which has a homicide rate 500% that of the U.S. homicide is still a rare event and you are likely to go your entire life without ever meeting someone who - within two degrees of separation - knows a murder victim.
It would be like saying "Three times as many Swiss have AB- type blood than Americans. Therefore, AB- blood is common in Switzerland." Not really, only 2% of the Swiss population has AB- blood.
waauw wrote:saxitoxin wrote:waauw wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Not that surprising. All of the Americas generally have a higher homicide rate than Europe. The United States actually has one of the lowest homicide rates among its peer (Pan-American) nations. Argentina, Uruguay, French departments in the Americas (e.g. Guiana, Saint Pierre and Miquelon), Danish possessions in the Americas (e.g. Greenland), British colonies in the Americas (e.g. Montserrat, Anguilla), all have higher murder rates than the U.S.
It could be because we have liberal living spaces with ample, plentiful land, and sprawling homes and properties, whereas - in Europe - people are crammed together and can't really sneeze without fifty police noticing. Hard to say.
The large majority of the americas is also third world. The USA being a wealthy nation should do better. Just take a look at the other rich nation in the americas, Canada. The canadians only count 0.38 fire-arm related homicides per 100,000 and a general murder rate of only 1.68 per 100,000.
Taking a look at crime rates, the USA does better than europe and Canada, but it comes at a cost. People are less inclined towards violence because of gun laws in the USA, but because of those very laws the lethality of crimes is higher as well. THAT is the difference. The USA is sacrificing lives for mere lower burglary rates.
Burglary is a common crime that impacts millions. Homicide is an exotic crime that impacts very few people. Even in South Africa, which has a homicide rate 500% that of the U.S. homicide is still a rare event and you are likely to go your entire life without ever meeting someone who - within two degrees of separation - knows a murder victim.
It would be like saying "Three times as many Swiss have AB- type blood than Americans. Therefore, AB- blood is common in Switzerland." Not really, only 2% of the Swiss population has AB- blood.
Well yes and that's your choice.
waauw wrote:ps: maybe you should ask your police force how gun deaths impact their safety on the job.
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