Say no to beef AND MILK

[mrswdk]

The University of Michigan - one of the top universities in the United States - has named and shamed beef as by far the most environmentally unfriendly ingredient in any meal:



Say NO to beef, and say yes to alternative sources of protein and taste sensations.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Well, beef really is the blandest of red meats.

[2dimes]

Where do they get that environmentally friendly milk?

[mookiemcgee]

Where do they get that environmentally friendly milk?

It's certainly not almond milk, almonds are some of the most water sucking crops grown.

[DoomYoshi]

I don't understand the equation with carbon dioxide = environmentally unfriendly. If that were the case, nobody would be allowed to breathe.

[mrswdk]

Where do they get that environmentally friendly milk?

It's certainly not almond milk, almonds are some of the most water sucking crops grown.

Wrong (sort of). Almond milk is worse than other plant-based milks, but still far better than dairy milk.

Cows lose again!

[HitRed]

Lentils are the most underrated food.

[KoolBak]

What I don't get is why on earth China-boy is quoting something from a heinous American source. Aren't all thing American anathema to him?

Unless it's convenient I guess

And aren't the japanese beef varieties the best? So they're the bad ones?? Pollutin our airs an such....

[DoomYoshi]

Where do they get that environmentally friendly milk?

It's certainly not almond milk, almonds are some of the most water sucking crops grown.

Wrong (sort of). Almond milk is worse than other plant-based milks, but still far better than dairy milk.

Cows lose again!

Almond nipples aren't very sexy though.

[jimboston]

Well, beef really is the blandest of red meats.

A nice Ribeye rocks.

[Symmetry]

Seems a little pointless. It'd dead already, and even when it was alive it wouldn't understand.

[hotfire]

It isn't the CO2 that is the problem. It is that the CO2 represents using more resources for a resource. Beef is inefficient and a bane to the average consumer by raising prices on all goods that use the same resources. Mainly oil and land. So everything.

[tzor]

The problem with a lot of these things is that they are presented as an either or situation.
I think there is a key overlooked word here ... "per Serving"
Cut the beef serving size in half and you literally cut the CO2 cost in half.
Then again as a child growing up ion East Hampton, Long Island I was always a Potato and Meat kid.
HUGE wonderful potatoes
And meat
And vegetables
IN THAT ORDER.

[mookiemcgee]

Distilling things down to basic numbers like this also overlooks key side benefits to farming or raising a certain type of crop/livestock.

I assume that these numbers are based on the idea that cattle is fed (likely corn) purchased and from a bag. When cattle are pasture raised and eat grass and other wild cover crops, they help fertilize soil when pasture raised and which helps other crops grow in a future cycle on the land. A pasture that was otherwise effectively fallow before the cattle came to eat the grass, may now be "mowed" and "fertilized" without any effort by the farmer, and is great land for farming veggies. Cattle offer many positive 'side effects' to the farms eco-system when pasture raised and not directly fed feed. It's really the whole mono-culture large farm agg system that causes beef to stand out as being environmentally unfriendly, but it's hard to ignore when done like this that it is not a CO2 friendly eat.

Here is a decent article about why cows are an important part of the farming ecosystem:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/actually-r ... 1419030738

[Dukasaur]

Distilling things down to basic numbers like this also overlooks key side benefits to farming or raising a certain type of crop/livestock.

I assume that these numbers are based on the idea that cattle is fed (likely corn) purchased and from a bag. When cattle are pasture raised and eat grass and other wild cover crops, they help fertilize soil when pasture raised and which helps other crops grow in a future cycle on the land. A pasture that was otherwise effectively fallow before the cattle came to eat the grass, may now be "mowed" and "fertilized" without any effort by the farmer, and is great land for farming veggies. Cattle offer many positive 'side effects' to the farms eco-system when pasture raised and not directly fed feed. It's really the whole mono-culture large farm agg system that causes beef to stand out as being environmentally unfriendly, but it's hard to ignore when done like this that it is not a CO2 friendly eat.

Here is a decent article about why cows are an important part of the farming ecosystem:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/actually-r ... 1419030738

Can't read your article (paywall). However, no the fact that beef is by far the most inefficient meat source is a long-established fact.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... 180952103/

First, the researchers calculated the feed costs for each class of animal—beef, pork, chicken, laying hens and dairy cows. They did not include fish because data about resources used to raise those animals is limited, and fish only contributed about two percent of American’s animal-based energy intake from 2000 to 2013.

They used data collected between 2000 to 2010 from the U.S. Departments of Agriculture, Interior and Energy about land area, water and nitrogen fertilizer to determine the burden produced by feeding and raising all of those animals. Then, they standardized the data by calories contained in a given amount of milk, eggs, beef, pork or chicken.

Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... SxOHPo4.99
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The findings, while expected, are quite sobering. Pork, chicken, dairy and eggs are equivalent within a factor of two when it came to their environmental burdens, the authors determined. But beef requires far, far more resources than any of those other protein categories. The team calculated that beef requires 28 times more land, six times more fertilizer and 11 times more water compared to those other food sources. That adds up to about five times more greenhouse gas emissions.
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Even back in the 70s when Moon colonization was being studied, it was established that goats and rabbits are the only meat animals considered for colonization, as the only ones that have a reasonable ratio of grain intake to meat output. That was almost 50 year ago, and it's been studied a lot more since then.

I don't have time to dig up any really good articles, but the Smithsonian one will have to do as a starting point. It includes a link to the scholarly paper that it was taken from.

[clampdaniel]

Mostly in Summer make sure to say no to beef

[KoolBak]

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[2dimes]

Bison are better because they wander off instead of eating all the grass in one pasture but bovine are easier to round up out on the range.

[TeeGee]

The University of Michigan - one of the top universities in the United States - has named and shamed beef as by far the most environmentally unfriendly ingredient in any meal:



Say NO to beef, and say yes to alternative sources of protein and taste sensations.

LIES!!

You told me you loved my sausage

[tzor]

Bison are better because they wander off instead of eating all the grass in one pasture but bovine are easier to round up out on the range.

Well bison is just plain better ... here are 9 ways.

[karel]

I don't care what these lame brain green people say I will never give up my beef,i eat meat 7 days a week once again the left pushing their lame shit again on to people

[Bernie Sanders]

I don't care what these lame brain green people say I will never give up my beef,i eat meat 7 days a week once again the left pushing their lame shit again on to people

I'm a lefty karel....let them eat meat. In fact I have a nice piece of meat for you, just open your mouth.

[mrswdk]

OP updated. We must say no not just to beef but to ALL dairy products.

Drink up, Nazis.

PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) is making the claim that milk is the perfect tipple for racists.

The organization tweeted: “Cows’ milk has long been a symbol used by white supremacists.”

In addition, the group claims the dairy industry inflicts extreme violence on cows, committing sins such as rape.

https://torontosun.com/news/world/peta- ... -supremacy

Metsfanmax was right all along. The dairy industry is not only environmentally unfriendly but it is also RACIST and it RAPES COWS.

[saxitoxin]

The University of Michigan - one of the top universities in the United States

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The University of Michigan - one of the top universities in the United States - has named and shamed beef as by far the most environmentally unfriendly ingredient in any meal:



Say NO to beef, and say yes to alternative sources of protein and taste sensations.

LIES!!

You told me you loved my sausage

he tells that to everyone

[mrswdk]

My favourite is blood sausage:



And the best thing is, it's made of pig blood so it doesn't even violate the Beef Boycott (#Beefcott2019).