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iAmCaffeine wrote:Personally I don't see the top three changing from S&M, TOFU and THOTA for a long time, whatever order you put them. After that you have the likes of FALL, TSM, EMP/ACE, LHDD, FOED, OSA etc again in no order.
Brucewar wrote:2. THOTA - The Clan to beat until KORT did it.
JBlombier wrote:When I entered CC, THOTA wasn't the clan to beat. It was the clan you couldn't beat. That doesn't apply to KoRT, but they reign in a different time.
Lindax wrote:The only reason THOTA was the most imposing was because they had all the good players and were the one and only clan back then.
Keefie wrote:My take on this is that Thota were undoubtedly the best for their time. However their time came before the clan scene exploded and competition became stronger.
niMic wrote:I agree with rockfist. I wouldn't put THOTA at the top anymore (I reserve #1 and #2 for S&M and TOFU), but they were the clan. And it wasn't because no other clans existed. More than that, it was almost like they were the only professionals and the rest of us were amateurs. These days a lot of clans probably operate like THOTA did then (although I was never in THOTA, so I might be talking out of my ass). They aren't "the best of all time" anymore, but top 5 certainly.
emilywink wrote:easy peasy question
1. TOP
2. TOFU
3. S&M
4. THOTA
emilywink wrote:easy peasy question
1. TOP
2. TOFU
3. S&M
4. THOTA
rockfist wrote:That’s a lot of work!
One thing that I don’t see is time at number one ranking, while I’ve said before that S&M should have the number one ranking of all time I believe that our large amounts of time holding the number one ranking narrows the gap some. That’s my opinion. I don’t know how you account for that...maybe 10,8,6,4,3,2,1 for number of weeks at number one? Maybe the clan world disagrees with that, but I don’t think it’s something I’ve conjured out of whole cloth.
rockfist wrote:To some degree it does, but if its worth 10,8,6,4,3,2,1, I don't know that it "overvalues it".
(I'm not a baseball guy, but I'm a bit of a sports nut so bear with me)...what I am trying to point out is - who is a better team the Florida Marlins (two championships but largely noncompetitive otherwise) or the Atlanta Braves (one championship but an annual contender)? I think most people would say the Braves were better.
Peaking at the right time to win competitions is its own reward but being at a sustained high level is worthy of recognition too.
betiko wrote:Honestly, I can hardly see how fall and foed could be better ranked than lhdd with all due respect to both clans... mostly foed.
I mean both fall and lhdd have won a cc cup and a premier division, but not foed... 3 cc finals for fall 1 win, 2 cc finals for lhdd 1 win, 1 cc final for foed no win.
Also, no clan has won as much diversity of clan events as we did, including every major and mid tier event involving 10+ clans.
What you did sounds like a lot of work, but not really sure how you chose your parameters. In my opinion, we should be #3 but I'm tooting my own flute
betiko wrote:Honestly, I can hardly see how fall and foed could be better ranked than lhdd with all due respect to both clans... mostly foed.
I mean both fall and lhdd have won a cc cup and a premier division, but not foed... 3 cc finals for fall 1 win, 2 cc finals for lhdd 1 win, 1 cc final for foed no win.
Also, no clan has won as much diversity of clan events as we did, including every major and mid tier event involving 10+ clans.
What you did sounds like a lot of work, but not really sure how you chose your parameters. In my opinion, we should be #3 but I'm tooting my own flute
ZaBeast wrote:Something I believe is missing is how these points were acquired over time. If it's not too hard to add, I'd love to have a graph of the score over time of the top clans. I think showing this trend would allow for a fairer comparison for the clans that didn't participate in all the events (either because they started later or because they died at some point). For instance I assume THOTA's score would be much higher had they kept existing, and a graph (by its slope) would convey that much better than just a number. It would also show which clans were consistently good and which had ups and downs.
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