COVID-19 TRUTH

[nemapredaje]

TRUTH IS love each others like Jesus love us

[Babba]

go away please

[btwong]

what a crock of crap.

[riskllama]

i am surprised anybody actually bothered clicking the link. was it because his mom is hot?

[8LimbWorrior]

I was wondering where is the truth hiding, obviously it was somewhere at CC, a great way to get "foed", i was hoping there is still 1 place where i won't encounter Trump & other lunatics with their conspiracy theories, whish there were UFO's & they'd do us a great favor & take all of them to Mars!

[nemapredaje]

God love us all

[nemapredaje]

go away please

God love us all

[nemapredaje]

i am surprised anybody actually bothered clicking the link. was it because his mom is hot?

God loves us all

[Dukasaur]

you dont spent 1 sec of your life

Clicking the links is not the problem. It's watching a 2 hour-and-45-minute video. A far cry from "1 second."

Anyway, I've read all the Covid conspiracy theories already. For the most part they are easily debunked. I'm not wasting 2 hours and 45 minutes watching your video, but if you think you know something that I haven't heard before, feel free to write it and I'll gladly respond.

[nemapredaje]

you dont spent 1 sec of your life

Clicking the links is not the problem. It's watching a 2 hour-and-45-minute video. A far cry from "1 second."

Anyway, I've read all the Covid conspiracy theories already. For the most part they are easily debunked. I'm not wasting 2 hours and 45 minutes watching your video, but if you think you know something that I haven't heard before, feel free to write it and I'll gladly respond.

stay tuned

[pmac666]

yeah stay tuned, the truth will come out in 2 weeks like trumps healthcareplan.

[BoganGod]

It is like Eddie or Colton reached Brig by a miracle and retained their "critical" reasoning skills

[dingo750]

Looks like Donald Trump is now on CC. Please stop sending me nonsense

[Jdsizzleslice]

I have had COVID-19. The flu is worse. We should not be locking down over this.

[KoolBak]

Maybe ask Joe Diffie or John Prine their opinion? Oh wait...you can't. It killed them.

[jimboston]

I have had COVID-19. The flu is worse. We should not be locking down over this.

Do you understand the concept of anecdotal evidence?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

So the nearly 300,000 deaths this virus has caused in the US don’t have weight compared to your own personal experience?

https://www.google.com/search?q=number+ ... ent=safari

Yes I know, a lot of those people were sick and dying already. I believe there is truth there... but it’s hard to say how many or what percent of those deaths were people who would’ve “died anyway” say in 3 months?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7jgem/ ... ied-anyway

[DoomYoshi]

Maybe ask Joe Diffie or John Prine their opinion? Oh wait...you can't. It killed them.

[Jdsizzleslice]

Do you understand the concept of anecdotal evidence?

Yes, I stated my opinion based off my own experience. What is your personal experience with COVID-19? Have you contracted the virus?

So the nearly 300,000 deaths this virus has caused in the US don’t have weight compared to your own personal experience?

I never implied that. Just stated my own experience with COVID-19. Don't read too much into it, Jim.

Yes I know, a lot of those people were sick and dying already. I believe there is truth there... but it’s hard to say how many or what percent of those deaths were people who would’ve “died anyway” say in 3 months?

Does a similar death ratio for the flu for US citizens mean we should lock down for the flu? The answer to that question, is no. And we don't lock down for the flu.

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Anyways, to everyone else here who wants to read a personal experience with COVID-19, doesn't assume hostility, and wants a different opinion rather than MSM misinformation on COVID -19, you can read my following monologue:

COVID-19 does affect people in different ways. While a majority of people who contract the virus generally have the same symptoms, some symptoms may become more prevalent than others, and therefore affecting them in different ways. The people who are vulnerable to serious medical harm with COVID-19 are most likely people who would be vulnerable to other viruses like the flu. One of the main concerns with COVID-19 is with its attack the respiratory system and its effect to those who already have preexisting conditions. There is a potential to contract pneumonia if one stays completely idle whilst sick. And pneumonia coupled with any sickness is a recipe for death. This means we should protect those who are vulnerable and should allow those who are healthy to return to normal life.

Some of the symptoms of COVID-19 I had included the following: sore throat, headache, fever, shortness of breath, congestion, muscle soreness, loss of taste, exhaustion.

In 48 hours, I went from feeling 1 symptom, to feeling all symptoms, to feeling only three symptoms. In 48 hours, COVID-19 came and mostly went. If you are experiencing two of these symptoms, I would suggest getting yourself tested just to be safe.

One should stay mobile whilst also trying to rest with COVID-19 (meaning, go on a short walk every now and then, maybe doing the dishes by hand or folding laundry, and don't be constantly laying around the house all day).

Here are some of the things that helped me feel better while I was sick: epsom salt bath, spicy foods, Vitamin D3, Zinc, NyQuil, Tylenol. Nothing was prescribed to me, and I was able to get over this virus pretty quickly.

• Is COVID-19 a real virus? Yes. It does make you sick. To those of you who think COVID-19 is just a conspiracy theory, it's not. It's very real.
• Is COVID-19 worse than the flu? No. The flu made me feel much worse for much longer when I last had the flu. If you have had the flu, then you can handle COVID-19.
• Should you be scared for you life if you contract COVID-19? If you are a healthy individual and have no existing conditions, then no. If you have existing conditions, then you should seek medical help to beat over COVID-19. I would tell you to do the same thing if you contracted the flu.
• Is the MSM fearmongering about COVID-19? Yes. It's not that bad. Honestly. With your God-given common-sense, you can recover quickly AND be safe at the same time.

It is my personal experience that COVID-19 is not bad enough to warrant a world-wide lockdown.

[jimboston]

Do you understand the concept of anecdotal evidence?

Yes, I stated my opinion based off my own experience. What is your personal experience with COVID-19? Have you contracted the virus?

I know several people who have contracted it, I have not had a documented case.

... but again you realize your individual experience is just one data point and irrelevant like most anecdotal evidence. No?

So the nearly 300,000 deaths this virus has caused in the US don’t have weight compared to your own personal experience?

I never implied that. Just stated my own experience with COVID-19. Don't read too much into it, Jim.

Well yeah... then you said that “based on your own personal (sic. anecdotal) experience you think the shutdown is unwarranted.
So if, even with the shutdown, we lost nearly 300,000 people so far... explain to me how i’m reading into your statement and it’s not implied?

You’re right it wasn;t implied... it was pretty clearly stated... basically because you didn;t get sick too bad then we shouldn’t worry about 300,000 dead and we should open everything up and stop using masks.

Yes I know, a lot of those people were sick and dying already. I believe there is truth there... but it’s hard to say how many or what percent of those deaths were people who would’ve “died anyway” say in 3 months?

Does a similar death ratio for the flu for US citizens mean we should lock down for the flu? The answer to that question, is no. And we don't lock down for the flu.

There’s a similar death ration or maybe less... it’s the speed of spreading that’s the problem


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[Jdsizzleslice]

I know several people who have contracted it, I have not had a documented case.

Oh, ok. So you have no experience with COVID-19 yourself. Glad you have not contracted the virus yet.

but again you realize your individual experience is just one data point and irrelevant like most anecdotal evidence. No?

No. Personal testimony is not an irrelevant factor. The answer to all the below questions is a resounding no.

• Would you listen to someone who is single, never married, give you marriage advice?
• Would you listen to someone who has never owned a firearm give you gun advice?
• Would you listen to someone who is extremely obese give you advice on how to workout and have a healthy body?
• Would you listen to someone who has never contracted COVID-19 give you COVID-19 advice, and tell you your personal experience is irrelevant?

What's the common far-leftist argument? "You can't tell me what my protest means to me?" Well, you can't tell me what my COVID-19 experience means to me.

Well yeah... then you said that “based on your own personal (sic. anecdotal) experience you think the shutdown is unwarranted.
So if, even with the shutdown, we lost nearly 300,000 people so far... explain to me how i’m reading into your statement and it’s not implied?

Because me stating my opinion that a lockdown does nothing does not disenfranchise those who have lost their lives? The lockdown didn't slow the spread, nor drop the death ratio/curve. If the first wave of lockdowns were effective, then why are we having a second set of lockdowns? If the first wave of lockdowns were ineffective, then why are we having a second set of lockdowns?

My point about lockdowns is unrelated to those who have passed away due to COVID-19. How dare you try to pin me with guilt with the deaths of those who have died due to COVID-19. You should be ashamed of yourself, Jim. Quite frankly, I'm tired of your malicious attitude. This will be my last response to you for a very long time.

You’re right it wasn;t implied... it was pretty clearly stated... basically because you didn;t get sick too bad then we shouldn’t worry about 300,000 dead and we should open everything up and stop using masks.

Jim, honestly. You are reaching extremely far here. If I clearly state what you say, then go and find the quote where I say we shouldn't worry about the people who have died. You're not going to find it.

There’s a similar death ration or maybe less... it’s the speed of spreading that’s the problem

COVID-19 spreads just like the flu. If the death ratios and the spread is extremely similar, why have we never ever locked down for the flu? Because the flu is not a virus worth locking down over. And neither should COVID-19 be.

[Jdsizzleslice]

Is there anyone else here who has had COVID-19 that would like to talk about their experience? This is a safe-space to talk about it.

[DoomYoshi]

COVID-19 spreads just like the flu. If the death ratios and the spread is extremely similar, why have we never ever locked down for the flu?

The parameters of this question are false:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/hist ... ronavirus/

[pmac666]

Hey guys, i have good news. i survived lungcancer so we can all continue to smoke. its totally safe.

[jonesthecurl]

And I had sex with this girl and she didn't get pregnant, so we don't need contraceptives,

[jimboston]

I know several people who have contracted it, I have not had a documented case.

Oh, ok. So you have no experience with COVID-19 yourself. Glad you have not contracted the virus yet.

I didn’t say I have no experience with Covid. I said I’ve not had a documented case. My personal experience, or lack thereof, is immaterial because I am not basing my arguments on anecdotal evidence, but rather using scientific evidence and statistics.

but again you realize your individual experience is just one data point and irrelevant like most anecdotal evidence. No?

No. Personal testimony is not an irrelevant factor. The answer to all the below questions is a resounding no.

Personal testimony from large numbers of people, documented and vetted and analyzed, may have some value.

Individual testimony used to define a wider problem rarely has value.

Here’s some personal testimony from me, that extrapolated makes no sense.
*I’ve never been hurt by a car, so cars can’t hurt people.
*I’ve been in a knife fight, gotten stabbed, but was fine... didn’t even need stitches. So knife fights aren’t dangerous.
*I got pneumonia when I was younger and lived, so pneumonia doesn’t kill people.
*I used to dirt bike and do crazy stunts, I fell a few times but was never seriously hurt. We didn’t wear helmets or knee pads in the 70’s either. Therefore you can’t get hurt doing dirt bike stunts and helmets/pads are useless.

• Would you listen to someone who is single, never married, give you marriage advice?
• Would you listen to someone who has never owned a firearm give you gun advice?
• Would you listen to someone who is extremely obese give you advice on how to workout and have a healthy body?
• Would you listen to someone who has never contracted COVID-19 give you COVID-19 advice, and tell you your personal experience is irrelevant?

Personal advice from people in similar situations has value for personal decisions in some cases, if not taken to extremes. Personal anecdotal situations do not translate well when implementing policy decisions that affect that lives of millions of people; people in different living situations, with different health issues, with different genetics, of different ages, interacting with different people in different ways.

If I am making policy decisions I wouldn’t listen to the anecdotal experience of any of these people. I would listen to data culled and presented in a scientific manner. I would listen to rigorously vetted data regardless of the personal experience of the individual presenting the data.

Here’s anecdotal evidence that could lead to bad policy decisions...
*Married woman who has a cheating/wife beating husband.
-> Policy decision extrapolation... end the institution of marriage. Don’t let men near women.

*Gun owner one day he forgets to put his guns away, and his son and son’s friends are playing with the guns and someone gets shot.
-> Policy decision extrapolation... take away every’ s guns.

*One guy on an Internet Forum gets Covid and only gets a little sick.
-> Policy decision extrapolation... Covid isn’t dangerous and we don’t need to take measures to slow the spread.

What's the common far-leftist argument? "You can't tell me what my protest means to me?" Well, you can't tell me what my COVID-19 experience means to me.

I wouldn’t know, I’m not a leftist and don’t blindly follow any general arguments.

I don’t care what your Covid Experience means to you. I also don’T think your INDIVIDUAL Covid experience has any bearing on public policy.

Well yeah... then you said that “based on your own personal (sic. anecdotal) experience you think the shutdown is unwarranted.
So if, even with the shutdown, we lost nearly 300,000 people so far... explain to me how i’m reading into your statement and it’s not implied?

Because me stating my opinion that a lockdown does nothing does not disenfranchise those who have lost their lives? The lockdown didn't slow the spread, nor drop the death ratio/curve. If the first wave of lockdowns were effective, then why are we having a second set of lockdowns? If the first wave of lockdowns were ineffective, then why are we having a second set of lockdowns?

My point about lockdowns is unrelated to those who have passed away due to COVID-19. How dare you try to pin me with guilt with the deaths of those who have died due to COVID-19.

I ain’t trying to pin anything on you.

I could answer these questions, but only if you’re willing to listen. The lockdown was never going to stop the spread, and (where it’s been consistently followed) it has slowed the spread. The biggest problem is people like you who deny the masks and the spread and just go around infecting people.

You should be ashamed of yourself, Jim.

Ashamed for ex-paining facts to someone who doesn’t like them?

Quite frankly, I'm tired of your malicious attitude. This will be my last response to you for a very long time.

That’s what I am hoping for.

You’re right it wasn;t implied... it was pretty clearly stated... basically because you didn;t get sick too bad then we shouldn’t worry about 300,000 dead and we should open everything up and stop using masks.

Jim, honestly. You are reaching extremely far here. If I clearly state what you say, then go and find the quote where I say we shouldn't worry about the people who have died. You're not going to find it.

I think the forum agrees with me.

There’s a similar death ration or maybe less... it’s the speed of spreading that’s the problem

COVID-19 spreads just like the flu. If the death ratios and the spread is extremely similar, why have we never ever locked down for the flu? Because the flu is not a virus worth locking down over. And neither should COVID-19 be.

The spread is NOT similar. Learn to read.