What is a stoner movie?

by **Dukasaur** on Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:34 pm

This morning on the radio, it being 4/20 and all, they were having one of those phone-in polls about "What is the best stoner movie of all time?"

And all the phone-in responses were things like Dazed and Confused, and Up in Smoke, and Wayne's World.

Which is the same thing that I find when I Google "best stoner movie of all time." Which to me is total bullshit.

To me, none of those are actual stoner movies. They're stupid parodies, making fun of hackneyed stereotypes of what a stoner is.

A real stoner movie, to me, is an authentic work of art which one normally gets stoned to properly appreciate. Movies like The Wall, and Yellow Submarine, and Clockwork Orange, and Willie Wonka.

Which is it for you? And what's best example in each category?

by **jonesthecurl** on Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:53 pm

Fritz the Cat.

'Hi, how are ya?'
'High, how are you?'

by **mookiemcgee** on Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:03 pm

My choice is Half Baked, with honorable mention to Cheech and Chong (pick any of them),Friday, and Easy Rider.

While I'm not against a choice like 'The Wall' or 'Clockwork Orange'... these almost feel more like Acid/mushroom movies than stoner movies.

by **KoolBak** on Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:51 pm

Hmmmm.....Your version of "stoner" is my version of microdot :lol:

But I'm not like that any more.......

by **Dukasaur** on Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:14 pm

KoolBak wrote:Hmmmm.....Your version of "stoner" is my version of microdot

But I'm not like that any more.......

Yeah, neither am I. I think last time I did acid was 1998. Last time I did mushrooms was 2002.

by **Sackett58** on Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:13 pm

Can't say I have never been stoned but by Dukasaur interpretation if I was stoned I would probably watch "What Dreams May Come" staring Robin Williams. A very visually well done movie in which I think the director could of done a better job of telling the story. Left me empty at the end but still had some good visual scenes.

by **Dukasaur** on Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:07 pm

Sackett58 wrote:Can't say I have never been stoned but by Dukasaur interpretation if I was stoned I would probably watch "What Dreams May Come" staring Robin Williams. A very visually well done movie in which I think the director could of done a better job of telling the story. Left me empty at the end but still had some good visual scenes.

Deep Throat does that for me.

by **mookiemcgee** on Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:35 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
Sackett58 wrote:Can't say I have never been stoned but by Dukasaur interpretation if I was stoned I would probably watch "What Dreams May Come" staring Robin Williams. A very visually well done movie in which I think the director could of done a better job of telling the story. Left me empty at the end but still had some good visual scenes.

Deep Throat does that for me.

lol, linda lovelace left lots of men feeling 'empty' at the end.

by **Dukasaur** on Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:39 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Sackett58 wrote:Can't say I have never been stoned but by Dukasaur interpretation if I was stoned I would probably watch "What Dreams May Come" staring Robin Williams. A very visually well done movie in which I think the director could of done a better job of telling the story. Left me empty at the end but still had some good visual scenes.

Deep Throat does that for me.

lol, linda lovelace left lots of men feeling 'empty' at the end.

Pro Tip: Great comedy is more likely to result from leaving the punchline hanging until they get it, than from explaining it...

by **mookiemcgee** on Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:51 pm

ouch, that hurt more than the biden death jab

by **jonesthecurl** on Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:08 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Sackett58 wrote:Can't say I have never been stoned but by Dukasaur interpretation if I was stoned I would probably watch "What Dreams May Come" staring Robin Williams. A very visually well done movie in which I think the director could of done a better job of telling the story. Left me empty at the end but still had some good visual scenes.

Deep Throat does that for me.

lol, linda lovelace left lots of men feeling 'empty' at the end.

Pro Tip: Great comedy is more likely to result from leaving the punchline hanging until they get it, than from explaining it...

Not with US types.

by **Dukasaur** on Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:48 pm

by **riskllama** on Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:05 pm

by **KoolBak** on Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:27 am

jonesthecurl wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Pro Tip: Great comedy is more likely to result from leaving the punchline hanging until they get it, than from explaining it...

Not with US types.

Being one of the 300 million stupid people you just dissed....perhaps you could use your heightened limey awareness and explain that comment....?

by **jonesthecurl** on Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:07 pm

I was exaggerating and being facetious, but it's a serious point. Not an insult. US humor is different to UK humour. In the UK people will finish a joke in their head or supply a punchline, for the most part US people don't.

There's a very old joke for example, 'What's the difference between a hot dog seller and a dog with no hind legs?'

The answer is, 'One bawls out his wares'.

Or, and I think I've quoted this one before, there was the limerick I wrote about a girl called Annie Cramp

'There was a young lady called Annie
Whose dress was somewhat uncanny.
Her leopard-skin pants
must give her the cramps,
and be very tight.'

US humor isn't 'stupid', but it is almost always obvious. One of the funniest movie moments for me was in one of the Naked Gun -movies, where someone was killed at sea. Behind Leslie Neilson as he's talking is a chalk outline floating on the water. Clever, indeed very clever. But still obvious, requiring no further explanation.

by **KoolBak** on Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:44 pm

Hmmmm....ok, thank you. Using Naked Gun to personify USA is :lol:

However....I must complain your limerick didnt follow my innate sense of limerick-ness. One SHOULD rhyme thusly (IMHO):

There once was a man from Nantucket
Who’s dick was so big he could suck it

He said with a grin,
As he wiped off his chin,

‘If my ear were a cunt I would f*ck it'

Obvious. Rhymes. I'm happy.

by **Dukasaur** on Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:46 pm

KoolBak wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Pro Tip: Great comedy is more likely to result from leaving the punchline hanging until they get it, than from explaining it...

Not with US types.

Being one of the 300 million stupid people you just dissed....perhaps you could use your heightened limey awareness and explain that comment....?

by **jonesthecurl** on Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:03 pm

However....I must complain your limerick didnt follow my innate sense of limerick-ness. One SHOULD rhyme thusly (IMHO):

Exactly, my friend. My limerick DOES rhyme, it's just left to the audience to complete it.

by **KoolBak** on Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:22 am

Coming from a 5th generation irish family, that's not how we (they) did it. So...maybe a little too much english in your irish, eh?

by **Dukasaur** on Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:27 am

Mary had a little lamb,
She also had a duck,
She put them in the pen together,
To see if they would eat hay...

It's not funny if you put the obvious ending. It's only funny when you make the person figure it out for themselves.

by **KoolBak** on Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:03 am

A salute to the Jonesy Limey
Who loves posting in forums with Dimey

He'd oft opine
Piss, moan and whine

Until he broke his rhymey

by **jimboston** on Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:16 pm

One can love Monty Python & The Holy Grail and also enjoy Blazing Saddles.
They are not mutually exclusive.

Comedy can be many different things. Some people limit themselves with labeling and some don’t.

I’ll label the comedy I like... Funny Comedy.
(and now apply the same method of defining that as that judge did when defining porn.)

Regarding the stoner movie question...

Stoner movies are movies like Dazed and Confused or Cheech and Chong. Yes they parody stoners, but when you’re high that’s what makes them funny. because no one really acts like that! Those movies are generally crap if you aren’t stoned.

Movies like Clockwork Orange or any Python Movie or Yellow Submarine. These movies are (like most movies) enhanced when high... but they are good on their own and you don’t need to be high to enjoy them.