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Postby jimboston on Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:37 am

Has anyone listened to this?

I thought it was spot-on.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby GaryDenton on Sat Apr 01, 2023 11:39 pm

The podcast says it wants to have a conversation. No, what it wants to do is give a sermon.

https://www.vulture.com/article/witch-t ... eview.html
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby jimboston on Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:45 am

GaryDenton wrote:The podcast says it wants to have a conversation. No, what it wants to do is give a sermon.

https://www.vulture.com/article/witch-t ... eview.html


Is this opinion of your based on actually listening to the Podcast or solely by reading the review.

I actually listened to the entire podcast and found it was pretty balanced and had polite intelligent interviews with people representing various viewpoints and multiple extremes from those viewpoints.

If your opinion is based solely on the biased review then your opinion has no standing.

Listen to the podcast they\n pass judgement.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby jimboston on Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:49 am

GaryDenton wrote:The podcast says it wants to have a conversation. No, what it wants to do is give a sermon.

https://www.vulture.com/article/witch-t ... eview.html


You skipped to the last paragraph of the review and just copied its’ summary.

You gave zero thought to the actual content of the Podcast.

If you read my comments on here you’ll see I generally lean left on most issues, but I do have some moderate or libertarian views as well. The biggest problem with the Left in the US is they dismiss Moderates and sacrifice the Middle to Republicans. You’d get more accomplished with a little moderation and discussion with the Silent Majority in the middle.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:14 am

jimboston wrote:
GaryDenton wrote:The podcast says it wants to have a conversation. No, what it wants to do is give a sermon.

https://www.vulture.com/article/witch-t ... eview.html


You skipped to the last paragraph of the review and just copied its’ summary.

You gave zero thought to the actual content of the Podcast.

If you read my comments on here you’ll see I generally lean left on most issues, but I do have some moderate or libertarian views as well. The biggest problem with the Left in the US is they dismiss Moderates and sacrifice the Middle to Republicans. You’d get more accomplished with a little moderation and discussion with the Silent Majority in the middle.


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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby jimboston on Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:40 pm

Did you give it a listen Duk?

It’s pretty good.

All I had heard about the “JK Rowling Affair” was that ‘the Left was trying to cancel her because she posted some “anti-trans” hateful stuff on Twitter.’

I had not read or heard the actual posts myself till this podcast.

I can understand why trans-rights people dislike any comments… especially from a well-know and generally respected left-leaning celebrity. As it likely goes against the core-belief system. That said if you read what she actually wrote directly it’s not “hateful” at all.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:21 am

I know the basic story and I agree with you. She hasn't said anything nasty but the woke crowd interprets any sign of disagreement as "hate". It's their favourite buzzword.

As far as podcasts go I don't really have any way to listen to them. My current computer has no speakers. My previous computer has been mothballed. My personal phone doesn't seem to have a podcast function. My work phone plays podcasts, but it seems to pick them at random. There isn't any search function that I can find. Mostly it plays podcasts from these two assholes that talk about historical battles but try to make everything into a joke. I know their intentions are good -- they are trying to make history accessible to the idiot masses -- but to someone like me who doesn't need jokes to be interested in history, it's tremendously annoying.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby jimboston on Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:26 am

Dukasaur wrote:I know the basic story and I agree with you. She hasn't said anything nasty but the woke crowd interprets any sign of disagreement as "hate". It's their favourite buzzword.

As far as podcasts go I don't really have any way to listen to them. My current computer has no speakers. My previous computer has been mothballed. My personal phone doesn't seem to have a podcast function. My work phone plays podcasts, but it seems to pick them at random. There isn't any search function that I can find. Mostly it plays podcasts from these two assholes that talk about historical battles but try to make everything into a joke. I know their intentions are good -- they are trying to make history accessible to the idiot masses -- but to someone like me who doesn't need jokes to be interested in history, it's tremendously annoying.


You have the dumbest of dumb phones.

There are apps you can get for free no?
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:31 pm

jimboston wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:I know the basic story and I agree with you. She hasn't said anything nasty but the woke crowd interprets any sign of disagreement as "hate". It's their favourite buzzword.

As far as podcasts go I don't really have any way to listen to them. My current computer has no speakers. My previous computer has been mothballed. My personal phone doesn't seem to have a podcast function. My work phone plays podcasts, but it seems to pick them at random. There isn't any search function that I can find. Mostly it plays podcasts from these two assholes that talk about historical battles but try to make everything into a joke. I know their intentions are good -- they are trying to make history accessible to the idiot masses -- but to someone like me who doesn't need jokes to be interested in history, it's tremendously annoying.


You have the dumbest of dumb phones.

There are apps you can get for free no?


Probably.

I can't put any more apps on my personal phone. Every since I took on Spotify last year, it gobbled up 7 megs of storage and now any time I try to put something on my phone I get an "Insufficient Storage Space" error. Now I regularly have to go through and delete stuff just to take a picture.

My work phone I probably could put something on, but technically I'm not supposed to. Every time you make any changes to the software on the work phone, you get an email from head office reminding you that the work phone is for work and you're not supposed to be doing personal stuff on it.

In any case I'm not much of a techie. More of a Luddite, really. An app has to come recommended by at least a dozen trusted people before I will take a chance and try it out.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby Maxleod on Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:36 pm

Dukasaur wrote:I can't put any more apps on my personal phone. Every since I took on Spotify last year, it gobbled up 7 megs of storage and now any time I try to put something on my phone I get an "Insufficient Storage Space" error. Now I regularly have to go through and delete stuff just to take a picture.



7 megs??? That's ONE MP3 song. Did you mean GB? Also, ever heard of SD cards?
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:41 pm

Maxleod wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:I can't put any more apps on my personal phone. Every since I took on Spotify last year, it gobbled up 7 megs of storage and now any time I try to put something on my phone I get an "Insufficient Storage Space" error. Now I regularly have to go through and delete stuff just to take a picture.



7 megs??? That's ONE MP3 song. Did you mean GB? Also, ever heard of SD cards?


Sorry, yeah. Meant 7 gigs.

6.91 to be exact.

Yeah, I've heard of SD cards, but never tried one. How much space to they have?
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby Maxleod on Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:47 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
Maxleod wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:I can't put any more apps on my personal phone. Every since I took on Spotify last year, it gobbled up 7 megs of storage and now any time I try to put something on my phone I get an "Insufficient Storage Space" error. Now I regularly have to go through and delete stuff just to take a picture.



7 megs??? That's ONE MP3 song. Did you mean GB? Also, ever heard of SD cards?


Sorry, yeah. Meant 7 gigs.

6.91 to be exact.

Yeah, I've heard of SD cards, but never tried one. How much space to they have?


Anything from 32GB to 1TB. I can only recommend Sandisk (they're reliable as f*ck, they're like the VW or Toyota of SSD):

https://www.westerndigital.com/products ... 032G-GN6MA
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby GaryDenton on Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:06 pm

I have followed the arguments and the podcast is biased while pretending to be fair. People whose opinions I respect have taken away the burden of my wasting time on it.,
J. K. is very much like some rich country club Republicans I know. She digs herself in deeper with her more recent statements and actions. She thinks the trans community are Death Eaters. That is pretty clear.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-is-an ... jk-rowling

A long history of this controversy:

https://www.glamour.com/story/a-complet ... ontroversy
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby bigtoughralf on Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:41 am

Dukasaur wrote:I can't put any more apps on my personal phone. Every since I took on Spotify last year, it gobbled up 7 megs of storage and now any time I try to put something on my phone I get an "Insufficient Storage Space" error. Now I regularly have to go through and delete stuff just to take a picture.


Sounds like you're downloading a lot of things to your phone and saving locally. If not then you can resolve memory hogging by clearing Spotify's cache regularly.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby jimboston on Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:23 am

GaryDenton wrote:I have followed the arguments and the podcast is biased while pretending to be fair. People whose opinions I respect have taken away the burden of my wasting time on it.,
J. K. is very much like some rich country club Republicans I know. She digs herself in deeper with her more recent statements and actions. She thinks the trans community are Death Eaters. That is pretty clear.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-is-an ... jk-rowling

A long history of this controversy:

https://www.glamour.com/story/a-complet ... ontroversy


Well I’ve listened to the Podcast… which not only interviews JK Rowling but also several Trans-Activists.

I’ve also listened to and watched pieces from the Trans-Activist side that are NOT this Podcast.

Your answer is a cop out.

You let biased people act as gatekeeper for you, and then blow-off open dialogue saying “I don’t have time to waste”.

She ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT think the “trans community are Death Eaters”. Just read what she ACTUALLY WROTE. I believe that exact phrase was actually mentioned in the podcast because it’s common insult/phrase thrown at JK by people who are AFRAID TO ENGAGE AND DEBATE valid concerns present by people who think the Trans-Community is going to far.

I think the Trans-Community is in for a serious backlash. The rhetoric coming from extreme trans-activists only hurts those in the community by pressing extreme views. This ‘belief’ is pushing away natural allies like feminists and mainstream gay/homosexuals. This will only hurt the movement and harm the community in the long run. Extreme Pro-Trans Activists fail to acknowledge that their rights end where they cross /violate other people’s rights.

The funny thing about hypocrites like you is that you will sit their and claim the high ground and bemoan how people like ConfedSS or Saxi at closed minded haters… but you will set your own gatekeepers and do the exact same thing from the other side of the political spectrum.

Extreme Leftists basically go all the way around the political spectrum and become the Fascists that they claim is the view of the Right.

Your inability to be open minded about this issue, and your extreme comments about JK Rowling (who is pretty Left of Center politically), are Fascistic by definition. The Left with their Cancel Culture and unwillingness to discuss certain subjects are getting to be more dangerous than the Extreme Right.

I wish we could take to 5% most extreme Left nutjobs and the 5% most extreme Right nutjobs and put them in a ring so they’d kill eachother…. leaving the 90% of us in the Middle, who probably don’t really disagree all that much, to find good compromises.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby bigtoughralf on Wed Apr 05, 2023 9:49 am

jimboston wrote:the 90% of us in the Middle


If only we could all be as middle of the road and balanced as you.

Your inability to be open minded about this issue, and your extreme comments about JK Rowling (who is pretty Left of Center politically), are Fascistic by definition.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby jimboston on Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:08 am

bigtoughralf wrote:
jimboston wrote:the 90% of us in the Middle


If only we could all be as middle of the road and balanced as you.

Your inability to be open minded about this issue, and your extreme comments about JK Rowling (who is pretty Left of Center politically), are Fascistic by definition.


Are you suggesting I’m not in the middle 90% in my views?

I lean Right on some issue and lean Left on others.

I am quite most middle-of-the-road and reasonable regular poster in this forum.

Calling an expressed view fascist, that happens to actually be fascist, doesn’t negate my basic middle-of-the-road standing.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby GaryDenton on Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:21 am

I used to be more open-minded on this issue but I read more of her words. She repeatedly attacks trans as being unsafe to women. Meanwhile, you are claiming the Great middle ground and calling me a Fascist.
I have gone back and looked at what she has actually said because she has her defenders.
In her recent words, she calls the trans movement Death Eaters.
"We have been made to live in secret, and now is our time, and any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die.” This is what she thinks the trans movement is, those who formerly had to live in secret but now can come out and KILL those who don't support them. Those are her words on that podcast you urge I listen to.

You have refused to read my links that show the history of this controversy and what is wrong with the podcast that pretends to give a balanced view but only lets two trans defenders on at the end. J K gets the last word and doesn't recognize the softer bigotry she is allowing to hurt one of the smallest and weakest minorities. She repeatedly claims the trans are really men adopting women's clothes to prey on women in their safe places.

More of my just repeating other's words I agree with:
"March 2023: A new podcast, The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling, produced by Bari Weiss’s The Free Press and hosted by prominent former Westboro Baptist Church member Megan Phelps-Roper, featured interviews with Rowling. In its fifth episode, Rowling begins discussing the modern trans rights movement, calling it “a cultural movement that was illiberal in its methods and questionable in its ideas” and insisting, “I believe, absolutely, that there is something dangerous about this movement and that it must be challenged.”
She then compares the movement to Death Eaters — the villainous supremacists in her books, analogous to Nazis:
[S]ome of you have not understood the books. The Death Eaters claimed, “We have been made to live in secret, and now is our time, and any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die.” They demonized and dehumanized those who were not like them.
I am fighting what I see as a powerful, insidious, misogynistic movement, that has gained huge purchase in very influential areas of society. I do not see this particular movement as either benign or powerless, so I’m afraid I stand with the women who are fighting to be heard against threats of loss of livelihood and threats to their safety.
While Rowling can say she only intends to target the specific trans activists who are angry at her, that’s an impossible distinction. She does not mention any formal group or entity that represents trans rights that has acted against her. The only context we have for what she is responding to are non-affiliated individuals on Twitter sending angry messages in response to her transphobic comments. Indeed, the episode is titled “The Tweets” and features Phelps-Roper reading angry and sad tweets from former fans of Rowling. This generalization doesn’t distinguish “the movement” from people who are simply angry and upset with Rowling. Instead, it seems to imply that “good” trans people are the ones who accept Rowling’s version of their identity and allow her viewpoint — that they aren’t who they say they are — to dominate their fight for social acceptance.
Trans people are estimated to comprise about half a percent of populations in both the US and the UK. A 2018 study from UCLA found no evidence to support that anti-trans legislation makes designated public spaces safer, but did find that “reports of privacy and safety violations in these places are exceedingly rare.” In essence, there was no danger to begin with.

You haven't read my other links so you won't read this one either, I suppose.

https://www.vox.com/culture/23622610/jk ... ontroversy
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby jimboston on Thu Apr 06, 2023 12:00 pm

GaryDenton wrote:I used to be more open-minded on this issue but I read more of her words. She repeatedly attacks trans as being unsafe to women. Meanwhile, you are claiming the Great middle ground and calling me a Fascist.


FACTS be FACTS… and it’ s all true.

GaryDenton wrote:I have gone back and looked at what she has actually said because she has her defenders.
In her recent words, she calls the trans movement Death Eaters.


Umm… not that’s NOT a quote. To imply that is a lie. You be a LIAR!

She does compare people who have threatened her life to Death Eaters.
If you listen to the Podcast you’ll find it’s not an unreasonable comparison.

Also… you have to realize the context and timing of this comparison.
This was NOT her initial tweet… and it’s not directed at all Transpeople.


GaryDenton wrote:“We have been made to live in secret, and now is our time, and any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die.” This is what she thinks the trans movement is, those who formerly had to live in secret but now can come out and KILL those who don't support them. Those are her words on that podcast you urge I listen to.


Yes. That sounds like a real quote… I mean the part you actually put quotes around.

Now interpret that quote IN CONTEXT.

That is NOT one of her original tweets that got her in trouble. That is a quote from the Podcast.
What she is referring to there SPECIFICALLY are the ACTUAL DEATH THREATS she received from Pro-Trans Activists. She was inundated with HATE FILLED tweets, email, mail… calling her a TERF (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist)… and suggesting ways she might best be killed. So yeah, that quote specifically refers to death threats… seems pretty accurate and reasonable for her to describe the threats she received no?

Even more fun…. tons of e-mails from (presumably) Trans-Women who described in vivid detail how they wanted to stick their cocks down her throat! Funny how gentle “women” want to f*ck her throat when she disagrees with them.

READ THE ACTUAL ORIGINAL TWEETS THAT WERE SO HORRIBLE!

You won’t because they aren’t (so horrible). They’re pretty tame to be honest.

GaryDenton wrote:
You have refused to read my links that show the history of this controversy and what is wrong with the podcast that pretends to give a balanced view but only lets two trans defenders on at the end. J K gets the last word and doesn't recognize the softer bigotry she is allowing to hurt one of the smallest and weakest minorities. She repeatedly claims the trans are really men adopting women's clothes to prey on women in their safe places.


1) I did read it… it’s biased.

2) She does absolutely NOT claim that “trans are really men adoption women’s clothes to prey on women.”

She does state the FACT that there are men who (either are or have claimed to be trans) who have preyed on women in women’s-only safe places. Ashe does not suggest or imply that this is a majority of trans; neither than nor or even a significant minority. What she does claim is that women have been victims of male abuse for eons… and only recently have women been able to gain cultural status and independence… and that now their status and safe spaces are being threatened by this movement.

If you actually listened to the Podcast, or knew anything about English Law, you would know that her initial tweets were prompted by a change in English Law that gave female status to anyone CLAIMING female status. Previously one had to provide evidence one was living as a woman, taking hormones, etc…. and then on a case-by-case basis a genetic male would be allowed to say be go to a female prison. Under the new law a genetic male only needs to claim status as a trans-woman and THAT CLAIM ALONE would enable said man to;
1) go to a female prison
2) get access to an abused woman shelter
3) play as a woman in female sports
4) use bathrooms/locker rooms traditionally reserved for women

A little open mindedness and research goes a long way.


GaryDenton wrote:More of my just repeating other's words I agree with:
"March 2023: A new podcast, The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling, produced by Bari Weiss’s The Free Press and hosted by prominent former Westboro Baptist Church member Megan Phelps-Roper, featured interviews with Rowling. In its fifth episode, Rowling begins discussing the modern trans rights movement, calling it “a cultural movement that was illiberal in its methods and questionable in its ideas” and insisting, “I believe, absolutely, that there is something dangerous about this movement and that it must be challenged.”
She then compares the movement to Death Eaters — the villainous supremacists in her books, analogous to Nazis:
[S]ome of you have not understood the books. The Death Eaters claimed, “We have been made to live in secret, and now is our time, and any who stand in our way must be destroyed. If you disagree with us, you must die.” They demonized and dehumanized those who were not like them.
I am fighting what I see as a powerful, insidious, misogynistic movement, that has gained huge purchase in very influential areas of society. I do not see this particular movement as either benign or powerless, so I’m afraid I stand with the women who are fighting to be heard against threats of loss of livelihood and threats to their safety.
While Rowling can say she only intends to target the specific trans activists who are angry at her, that’s an impossible distinction. She does not mention any formal group or entity that represents trans rights that has acted against her. The only context we have for what she is responding to are non-affiliated individuals on Twitter sending angry messages in response to her transphobic comments. Indeed, the episode is titled “The Tweets” and features Phelps-Roper reading angry and sad tweets from former fans of Rowling. This generalization doesn’t distinguish “the movement” from people who are simply angry and upset with Rowling. Instead, it seems to imply that “good” trans people are the ones who accept Rowling’s version of their identity and allow her viewpoint — that they aren’t who they say they are — to dominate their fight for social acceptance.
Trans people are estimated to comprise about half a percent of populations in both the US and the UK. A 2018 study from UCLA found no evidence to support that anti-trans legislation makes designated public spaces safer, but did find that “reports of privacy and safety violations in these places are exceedingly rare.” In essence, there was no danger to begin with.

You haven't read my other links so you won't read this one either, I suppose.

https://www.vox.com/culture/23622610/jk ... ontroversy


1) Why is it “an impossible distinction”. She does not group “all transpeople” together as one homogeneous group. She specifically refers to activists who send death threats, try to “cancel” her or other people because of perceived bias, etc. She specifically notes (in this podcast and in her original tweets) that she has no problem with adults transpeople living (what she calls) their “authentic lives” and wishes the best for them. Read her original posts!

2) The second highlighted phrase shows the bias of the article you link. Instead of printing her actual tweets in their entirety they just claim that her tweets were “transphobic”. It’s a lie.

- Her original tweets were not “transphobic” at all! Read them. Would you like me to quote them?

- The whole phrase “transphobic” is an abuse of the English Language. Her tweets weren’t “transphobic” in any sense. That said the term “transphobic” by definition implies and unwarranted of unrealistic FEAR of transpeople. The language used by trans-activists is designed to fog up the whole issue. They should say Trans-biased or Trans-Haters or something but that doesn’t sound as good.

3) This another pet peeve of mine. The Mainstream Media has adopted the language imposed by the Trans-Activists. All legislation that addresses anything opposed to the Trans-Activist Agenda is labeled by them (and by the Media) as “Anti-Trans Legislation”.

Why should a law requiring participants in Girls/Female sports be genetically/natural females be labeled “Anti-Trans”?
I think it should be labeled “Pro Women”… “Pro Girl Safety”. That seems at least equally accurate.

Why should a law designed to slow down or limit transition interventions in minor children be labeled “Anti-Trans”?
I think it’s equally reasonable to label it “Pro Child Safety”.

Adults who want to take hormones and have body modification surgery are welcome to do it IMHO.
Flaying the cocks of 16yo boys to form fake vaginas seems like it’s a bit extreme.
(Don’t say this is inflammatory language… it’s what’s done in these surgeries.)

In some states parents get arrested if they let their minor child get a tattoo.
But it’s fine to…
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:53 pm

For the 10th anniversary of Boston Marathon bombing, we should have a Patriots Day Special... GaryDenton vs jimboston in a steel cage live on PPV.

It's obvious gary can't stand up in the intellectual ring, so let's see how he does with a steel chair.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby GaryDenton on Thu Apr 06, 2023 8:04 pm

A defense was mounted of J. K. Rowling on a podcast that strongly suggested she was a victim of a modern-day witch trial. The podcast was heavily biased in her favor and had only two trans-activist defenders whose brief comments were held to the end. Some people like jimboston agree with Rowling and think her attacks on trans people are taken out of context. They defend her as a victim of attacks and death threats but, as I go back and review -- all of these attacks and death threats occur after she has doxed trans activists and exposed them to attacks and death threats. He adopts Rowling's defense and says her attacks on trans activists are only on the nasties that call her names and issue death threats and promote their agenda of attacking all that oppose them. Again, I suggest you check the histories I linked to, but jimboston says they are biased, as he ignores the many, many, signs she has joined up with hard-core transphobics.
I oppose some of the specific trans policies that jimboston opposes, but I am not so deluded as to see J.K. Rowling as the victim here.
She has written long statements in her own defense you can read.
I have provided four links that go over the history of this controversy. jimboston has seemed to now concede that while her original tweets were not transphobic they could be "trans-biased" or "trans-hated" and he seems to most strongly object to the semantics of the arguments.
I should rest my case - I agree that she is a trans-hater and is trans-biased or a trans bigot.
Here recent opposition to the trans head of a women's violence center to fund a women's violence center that excludes trans women shows where she stands.
Yes, she is a progressive that supports women but she has a phobia about what she considers to be men dressing in women's clothes and pretending to be women as being unsafe for women because they include many men seeking to attack women.
That shows her phobia and that is sad.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby jimboston on Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:51 am

DoomYoshi wrote:For the 10th anniversary of Boston Marathon bombing, we should have a Patriots Day Special... GaryDenton vs jimboston in a steel cage live on PPV.

It's obvious gary can't stand up in the intellectual ring, so let's see how he does with a steel chair.


He’d have no chance.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby jimboston on Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:11 am

GaryDenton wrote:A defense was mounted of J. K. Rowling on a podcast that strongly suggested she was a victim of a modern-day witch trial. The podcast was heavily biased in her favor and had only two trans-activist defenders whose brief comments were held to the end. Some people like jimboston agree with Rowling and think her attacks on trans people are taken out of context. They defend her as a victim of attacks and death threats but, as I go back and review -- all of these attacks and death threats occur after she has doxed trans activists and exposed them to attacks and death threats. He adopts Rowling's defense and says her attacks on trans activists are only on the nasties that call her names and issue death threats and promote their agenda of attacking all that oppose them. Again, I suggest you check the histories I linked to, but jimboston says they are biased, as he ignores the many, many, signs she has joined up with hard-core transphobics.


This is all subjective option.

GaryDenton wrote:I oppose some of the specific trans policies that jimboston opposes,


Enlighten us… which pro-trans-activist policies do you oppose?

It’s very likely that if you oppose any of the policies I referenced you would be attacked by the Left and Labeled Transphobic.


GaryDenton wrote:but I am not so deluded as to see J.K. Rowling as the victim here.


No. You’re so deluded that you see JK as an attacker.


GaryDenton wrote:jimboston has seemed to now concede that while her original tweets were not transphobic they could be "trans-biased" or "trans-hated"


This is ABSOLUTELY NOT what I said… nor is this what I suggested or implied.

JK’s original Tweets were not “Transphobic” (which IMHO is a misnomer). Nor were her tweets “trans-biased” or “trans-hateful” or anything.

Her tweets were pro-women and rational and compassionate.

They didn’t tow the Trans-Activist line… so she was attacked and labeled a Hater and they attempted to “Cancel” her.


GaryDenton wrote:and he seems to most strongly object to the semantics of the arguments.


Incorrect again. On this case I most strongly object to the policies, ideas, and political agenda of the Trans-Activists and their “Woke Left Allies”.

As a secondary issue I take exception to the language used by the Trans-Activists and their Media Allies, as I believe (rightly) that the language used by these psychos is designed specifically to put opposing views at a disadvantage if we adopt their terms.

Flaying the dick of a sick 15yo boy who thinks he’s a girl becomes “gender affirming care of a minor”.

GaryDenton wrote:I should rest my case - I agree that she is a trans-hater and is trans-biased or a trans bigot.


Yep… you’re fully bought-in.


GaryDenton wrote:Here recent opposition to the trans head of a women's violence center to fund a women's violence center that excludes trans women shows where she stands. Yes, she is a progressive that supports women but she has a phobia about what she considers to be men dressing in women's clothes and pretending to be women as being unsafe for women because they include many men seeking to attack women.
That shows her phobia and that is sad.


What’s truly sad is that if you question the Left on this issue at all, you are immediately attacked and labeled a “Transphobe” and they refuse to discuss or debate the issue in any way.

As an abused woman she has a unique/direct perspective on domestic violence that (I assume) you don’t have.

Why are her views and the views of the majority of women forced into the backseat and given no credence… but the views of a small minority of Trans-Activists given priority?

That’s what is truly sad.
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby GaryDenton on Fri Apr 07, 2023 3:21 pm

My mistake, your words could be mistaken as saying here original tweets were trans-hatred or trans-biased but not transphobic.
She has clearly aligned herself with the transphobics now and you have joined that crowd.
You repeated this again: "Flaying the dick of a sick 15yo boy who thinks he’s a girl becomes “gender affirming care of a minor”.
Is that what brought your alignment with the transphobics?
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Re: Podcast - The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling

Postby bigtoughralf on Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:17 pm

Well Spain has just enacted a law allowing people to change their legal gender at will:

https://www.euronews.com/2023/04/06/how ... e-affected

Checkmate, transphobes. All you dusty boomers are about to end up on the same page of history as the slavers and the people who executed gays.
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