Closed Colusion[ES]

[MajorRT]

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Accused:

OnYourShore
Razdringus




The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy





Game number(s):

Game 22566225
World 2.1



Comments: just look at the game....strongly appears red + blue colusion, attacked the other only once in whole game...what do you think?

Thanks!!

Fun playing all these years...

[razdringus]

jesus, dude even in the chat this was posted....how could I attack someone that is no where near me? Let alone yellow is the strongext player by alot and no one should be attacking anyone but them besides a card grab

[Evil Semp]

You need to give more detail on why you think there is colusion.

All I have to go on is the game log. This is a fog game and I can't see through the fog.

At the beginning of the game everyone was picking up small bonuses. I think that the drop made it so they didn't have to attack each other to gain any of their bonuses.

When this game is over I will take another look. Please give some more details about the colusion.

ES

[MajorRT]

Thanks for your look...too bad you can't see thru fog...in 39 rounds, attacked each other only once...very unusual...Sorry if false accusation but worth looking at if they played together in past for patterns...

[MajorRT]

Just look at the moves

[MajorRT]

Hmmmmm

[Evil Semp]

Hmmmmm

You can goo Hmmmmmm all you want. As long as the game is ongoing I can't see the log.

[MajorRT]

Done. TU.

[Donelladan]

@MajorRT
What you could do to help the C&A mods here, is that you look at the history of those two players.
How many games did they play together ?
what's the win rate of each of them in the games they played together.
If they played 100 multiplayer games together, and at least one of them won like 90% of the case, then there is definitely something fishy going there.

If they played 100 3-player games, and like player A won 40%, player B won 30%, then that's close to the expected 33% and you have no case.

Furthermore you can check a few of their finished game together, check the log yourself, and show that clearly they were helping each other.

If you want example that's how I report people for SD (2nd one is more elaborated, going through logs of few games) :
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=238441&p=5258775#p5258775
viewtopic.php?f=239&t=227522&p=5033005#p5033005

[Shannon Apple]

I did the research for him, since he couldn't be bothered. Didn't take long haha. These two players played a grand total of 2 games together EVER, and neither of them won the first game. Razdringus won the second. That would suggest that these two players don't even know each other.

You have to look at their past games yourself before bringing the case to C&A. Evil Semp shouldn't have to do all the work since you're the one who's bringing the case. Telling a mod to check the history is a bit cheeky, when you haven't even tried. All you have to do is go to finder, put both their names in and hit submit. Then look to see if either of the two is winning a disproportionate number of games that they play together. Put a few of those game numbers in your report for mods to look at if.

I have a feeling that you may have lost that game for yourself. You made a spurious report and open accusations in chat. Having a feeling is not enough. You need to bring evidence.

[Evil Semp]

Sorry it has taken me so long. I am marking this CLOSED.

I will start by saying that I think my origional statement was correct. You can't just go by the number of times players attack each other.

When we ask for you to help by giving more details it means just that. Help us.