Democrats continue the Crises over Illegal Immigration

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Give them all the chair, i say!

[jusplay4fun]

Kamala's Failures, PART ONE:

Was Harris in charge of the border – or wasn't she?

Shortly after Biden took office in 2021, the president appointed Harris to “lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border and work with Central American nations to address root causes of the problem.”

At least that’s how The Associated Press reported the story at the time.

Biden made the announcement following a surge of migrants at the southern border after he had become president. He also said of Harris in this new role: “When she speaks, she speaks for me.”

Sounds like a pretty darn important job to me.

That’s why many in the news media started referring to Harris’ big task as “border czar,” including me, even though that technically wasn’t her official title. Anyone in Washington knows that people put in positions of power like this are commonly referred to as “czars.” It's a phrase that dates at least to 1989, when President George H.W. Bush appointed William Bennett to be his "drug czar."

Yet now, accurately referring to Harris’ vital undertaking has become a huge no-no.

Since Harris failed to address anything to do with immigration (the number of illegal border crossings continued to skyrocket during the Biden administration until recently), she quietly was removed from that position and has turned to other things like visiting abortion clinics and fighting Islamophobia.

Harris bothered to visit the border only once – and only after being shamed in an interview for not having done so.

To cover for her shortfalls, the news media is now desperately seeking to rewrite history.

One glaring example is from Axios. In 2021, the outlet reported that “Biden puts Harris in charge of border crisis.” Another story used the phrase “border czar.”

Fast-forward to this week, and Axios is acting shocked that anyone would refer to Harris in this way, claiming that she was given only a “slice” of the crisis to combat. To make matters worse, Axios added an editor’s note to the recent article, stating: “This article has been updated and clarified to note that Axios was among the news outlets that incorrectly labeled Harris a ‘border czar’ in 2021.’ ”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ ... f46c7&ei=9

[Pack Rat]

We can always count on jusplay4MAGA to continue to distort the truth. Not surprised that he spreads conspiracies and outright lies, as jusplay4MAGA is just a tool and cult follower of Trump.

"Biden tapped Harris in March 2021 to lead a much more narrow diplomatic effort to curb migration from the “Northern Triangle” countries—Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador—and address the root causes for why residents there immigrate to the U.S. in the first place, along with enhancing other countries’ borders that those migrants travel through along the way before they get to the U.S.
"She was never tasked with managing border security in the U.S., which is under the purview of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, who said in June 2021 Harris is “leading our nation’s efforts to address the root causes—that fundamental question of why people leave their homes,” while he is “address[ing] the security and management of our border.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... on-record/

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Why didn't [color=#FF00BF]Speaker Johnson[/color] put the strongest/toughest Border Control Bill ever to a vote? Cause that would thwart [color=#FF00BF]Trump's[/color] attempt to show Democrats are weak on the border.

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[jusplay4fun]

p-brat failed to read what I posted. This LIE is an attempt to rewrite History. It is an attempt to deflect from the TRUTH that KAMALA did NOTHING to solve the border issue. PERIOD.

Try again, p-brat, and use facts and not distortions.

Shortly after Biden took office in 2021, the president appointed Harris to “lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border AND work with Central American nations to address root causes of the problem.”

At least that’s how The Associated Press reported the story at the time.

The ABOVE is from my previous post.

The liberal media forget the PART BEFORE THE AND. STOOOOPID obfuscation, p-brat. You FAILED Again.

and MORE:

It was an unwinnable assignment that Harris never wanted and never fully embraced. And while she claimed some accomplishments — including coaxing private companies to pledge billions of dollars of investment in Central America — she was criticized for her tepid interest in the issue and for visiting Latin America just twice.

“It was promising at first, but then disappointing,” said a Mexican official who met with Harris in 2021 when she and Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador signed an agreement to forge new development programs in Central America.

Harris grew distant after the summit and stopped attending meetings, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity: “She quit.”

Now that she is the leading Democratic presidential candidate, Harris is facing renewed scrutiny over her record in the White House and her views on immigration more broadly.
(...)
But Harris seemed wary. While Biden had enthusiastically taken the lead on diplomacy in Latin America when he served under President Obama, traveling to the region 16 times during his eight years as vice president, Harris seemed to sense the political danger of being identified with such a divisive topic as immigration.

Amid Republican efforts to paint immigration as a threat, 55% of U.S. adults now believe that “large numbers of immigrants entering the United States illegally” are a critical threat to U.S. vital interests, according to a recent Gallup poll. The poll showed that immigration had surged to the top of the issues that voters cared most about — more than the economy or inflation.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... ion-border

[Pack Rat]

You are hopelessly moronic. Good bye jusplay4MAGA.

[jusplay4fun]

You are hopelessly moronic. Good bye jusplay4MAGA.

I am glad you are leaving, p-brat. No one will miss your posts. Your life will be even more mundane, pedestrian, and pendantic without you reading all of my posts and getting you upset about The TRUTH.

[jusplay4fun]

You are hopelessly moronic. Good bye jusplay4MAGA.

I am glad you are leaving, p-brat. No one will miss your posts. Your life will be even more mundane, pedestrian, and pendantic without you reading all of my posts and getting you upset about The TRUTH.

I thought pee-rat was leaving. Too bad he continues to post garbage.

[Pack Rat]

p-brat failed to read what I posted. This LIE is an attempt to rewrite History. It is an attempt to deflect from the TRUTH that KAMALA did NOTHING to solve the border issue. PERIOD.

Try again, p-brat, and use facts and not distortions.

Shortly after Biden took office in 2021, the president appointed Harris to “lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border AND work with Central American nations to address root causes of the problem.”

At least that’s how The Associated Press reported the story at the time.

The ABOVE is from my previous post.

The liberal media forget the PART BEFORE THE AND. STOOOOPID obfuscation, p-brat. You FAILED Again.

and MORE:

It was an unwinnable assignment that Harris never wanted and never fully embraced. And while she claimed some accomplishments — including coaxing private companies to pledge billions of dollars of investment in Central America — she was criticized for her tepid interest in the issue and for visiting Latin America just twice.

“It was promising at first, but then disappointing,” said a Mexican official who met with Harris in 2021 when she and Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador signed an agreement to forge new development programs in Central America.

Harris grew distant after the summit and stopped attending meetings, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity: “She quit.”

Now that she is the leading Democratic presidential candidate, Harris is facing renewed scrutiny over her record in the White House and her views on immigration more broadly.
(...)
But Harris seemed wary. While Biden had enthusiastically taken the lead on diplomacy in Latin America when he served under President Obama, traveling to the region 16 times during his eight years as vice president, Harris seemed to sense the political danger of being identified with such a divisive topic as immigration.

Amid Republican efforts to paint immigration as a threat, 55% of U.S. adults now believe that “large numbers of immigrants entering the United States illegally” are a critical threat to U.S. vital interests, according to a recent Gallup poll. The poll showed that immigration had surged to the top of the issues that voters cared most about — more than the economy or inflation.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... ion-border

Here I quote again, since reading is not strong point. Vice President Harris was never the Border Czar.

"Biden tapped Harris in March 2021 to lead a much more narrow diplomatic effort to curb migration from the “Northern Triangle” countries—Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador—and address the root causes for why residents there immigrate to the U.S. in the first place, along with enhancing other countries’ borders that those migrants travel through along the way before they get to the U.S.
"She was never tasked with managing border security in the U.S., which is under the purview of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, who said in June 2021 Harris is “leading our nation’s efforts to address the root causes—that fundamental question of why people leave their homes,” while he is “address[ing] the security and management of our border.”

Jusplay4MAGA, not sure why I even waste my time replying to your MAGA alternative truths.

Spoiler

[i]Now fuk off and play with someone else![/i]

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[Pack Rat]

The joke is on you!

[pmac666]

Yeah and those dumies tried to impeach Mayorkas and not Kamala.
Turned out well for them too. lol

[Votanic]

Yeah and those dumies tried to impeach Mayorkas and not Kamala.
Turned out well for them too. lol

Please.
Mayorkas wasn't impeached, because the congressional swamp-dwellers that opposed it, knew it would set a precedent for clear-cutting all the rest of their rotten deadwood snags out of Washington.

Never confuse political expediency, with sound government.

[Pack Rat]

Yeah and those dumies tried to impeach Mayorkas and not Kamala.
Turned out well for them too. lol

Please.
Mayorkas wasn't impeached, because the congressional swamp-dwellers that opposed it, knew it would set a precedent for clear-cutting all the rest of their rotten deadwood snags out of Washington.

Never confuse political expediency, with sound government.

Swamp dwellers, lol! Someone must be blamed!

[jusplay4fun]

p-brat failed to read what I posted. This LIE is an attempt to rewrite History. It is an attempt to deflect from the TRUTH that KAMALA did NOTHING to solve the border issue. PERIOD.

Try again, p-brat, and use facts and not distortions.

Shortly after Biden took office in 2021, the president appointed Harris to “lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border AND work with Central American nations to address root causes of the problem.”

At least that’s how The Associated Press reported the story at the time.

The ABOVE is from my previous post.

The liberal media forget the PART BEFORE THE AND. STOOOOPID obfuscation, p-brat. You FAILED Again.

and MORE:

It was an unwinnable assignment that Harris never wanted and never fully embraced. And while she claimed some accomplishments — including coaxing private companies to pledge billions of dollars of investment in Central America — she was criticized for her tepid interest in the issue and for visiting Latin America just twice.

“It was promising at first, but then disappointing,” said a Mexican official who met with Harris in 2021 when she and Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador signed an agreement to forge new development programs in Central America.

Harris grew distant after the summit and stopped attending meetings, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity: “She quit.”

Now that she is the leading Democratic presidential candidate, Harris is facing renewed scrutiny over her record in the White House and her views on immigration more broadly.
(...)
But Harris seemed wary. While Biden had enthusiastically taken the lead on diplomacy in Latin America when he served under President Obama, traveling to the region 16 times during his eight years as vice president, Harris seemed to sense the political danger of being identified with such a divisive topic as immigration.

Amid Republican efforts to paint immigration as a threat, 55% of U.S. adults now believe that “large numbers of immigrants entering the United States illegally” are a critical threat to U.S. vital interests, according to a recent Gallup poll. The poll showed that immigration had surged to the top of the issues that voters cared most about — more than the economy or inflation.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... ion-border

Here I quote again, since reading is not strong point. Vice President Harris was never the Border Czar.

"Biden tapped Harris in March 2021 to lead a much more narrow diplomatic effort to curb migration from the “Northern Triangle” countries—Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador—and address the root causes for why residents there immigrate to the U.S. in the first place, along with enhancing other countries’ borders that those migrants travel through along the way before they get to the U.S.
"She was never tasked with managing border security in the U.S., which is under the purview of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, who said in June 2021 Harris is “leading our nation’s efforts to address the root causes—that fundamental question of why people leave their homes,” while he is “address[ing] the security and management of our border.”

Jusplay4MAGA, not sure why I even waste my time replying to your MAGA alternative truths.

NOT so, merely the TRUTH that you cannot recognize. You are too biased to see clearly. pee-rat.

[Pack Rat]

I'm biased and you're not? Take your comedic act on the road.

[jusplay4fun]

I'm biased and you're not? Take your comedic act on the road.

Everyone is biased in some way. I can comprehend my biases and see the field from a level perspective. You see things only one way, your way.

[pmac666]

I'm biased and you're not? Take your comedic act on the road.

Everyone is biased in some way. I can comprehend my biases and see the field from a level perspective. You see things only one way, your way.

Yeah thats how you got your nicknames here.

[jusplay4fun]

p-brat failed to read what I posted. This LIE is an attempt to rewrite History. It is an attempt to deflect from the TRUTH that KAMALA did NOTHING to solve the border issue. PERIOD.

Try again, p-brat, and use facts and not distortions.

Shortly after Biden took office in 2021, the president appointed Harris to “lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border AND work with Central American nations to address root causes of the problem.”

At least that’s how The Associated Press reported the story at the time.

The ABOVE is from my previous post.

The liberal media forget the PART BEFORE THE AND. STOOOOPID obfuscation, p-brat. You FAILED Again.

and MORE:

It was an unwinnable assignment that Harris never wanted and never fully embraced. And while she claimed some accomplishments — including coaxing private companies to pledge billions of dollars of investment in Central America — she was criticized for her tepid interest in the issue and for visiting Latin America just twice.

“It was promising at first, but then disappointing,” said a Mexican official who met with Harris in 2021 when she and Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador signed an agreement to forge new development programs in Central America.

Harris grew distant after the summit and stopped attending meetings, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity: “She quit.”

Now that she is the leading Democratic presidential candidate, Harris is facing renewed scrutiny over her record in the White House and her views on immigration more broadly.
(...)
But Harris seemed wary. While Biden had enthusiastically taken the lead on diplomacy in Latin America when he served under President Obama, traveling to the region 16 times during his eight years as vice president, Harris seemed to sense the political danger of being identified with such a divisive topic as immigration.

Amid Republican efforts to paint immigration as a threat, 55% of U.S. adults now believe that “large numbers of immigrants entering the United States illegally” are a critical threat to U.S. vital interests, according to a recent Gallup poll. The poll showed that immigration had surged to the top of the issues that voters cared most about — more than the economy or inflation.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... ion-border

Here I quote again, since reading is not strong point. Vice President Harris was never the Border Czar.

"Biden tapped Harris in March 2021 to lead a much more narrow diplomatic effort to curb migration from the “Northern Triangle” countries—Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador—and address the root causes for why residents there immigrate to the U.S. in the first place, along with enhancing other countries’ borders that those migrants travel through along the way before they get to the U.S.
"She was never tasked with managing border security in the U.S., which is under the purview of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, who said in June 2021 Harris is “leading our nation’s efforts to address the root causes—that fundamental question of why people leave their homes,” while he is “address[ing] the security and management of our border.”

Jusplay4MAGA[/color], not sure why I even waste my time replying to your MAGA alternative truths.

Spoiler

[i]Now fuk off and play with someone else!

Let's try again, p-rat. The term "Border Czar" that the Dems (and their friends in the liberal media) are quick to DENY for Kamala, is not the point. Kamala was given responsibility to stem the flow of migrants into the US.

Here is a good summary:

Illegal migration is perhaps the biggest political vulnerability facing Kamala Harris’s presidential campaign. Under the Biden-Harris administration, there were about 8 million migrant encounters in the three-year period from 2021 through 2023. This is an annual rate about 3.5 times higher than that under the Trump-Pence administration between 2017 and 2020.

A Gallup poll earlier this year showed that respondents view immigration as the most important problem facing the United States, far ahead of concerns about the government, inflation, crime, and homelessness. Given voter concerns and the large increase in border encounters, it is unsurprising that Harris is trying to distance herself from the border crisis. This has been challenging for her, because in March 2021, Biden gave a speech introducing Harris in a new role to lead US efforts with Latin American countries to stem the surge of migrants to the United States.

Last week, the Harris campaign issued a list of talking points to downplay Harris’s border responsibilities. These talking points have focused on denying that Harris was the “border czar,” a term some in the media used to describe her border role. Her campaign has instead argued that her role in dealing with border issues was limited to identifying the root causes of migration.

Those who have repeated these talking points include White House press secretary Karine Jeanne-Pierre, House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries, and Massachusetts representative Jim McGovern.

But it is not just Democratic party leaders stating these talking points. It has also been the press. Many media sources reported last week that Harris was never the “border czar.” This is odd, because some of those same media sources, including NBC, the Associated Press, Politico, the Washington Post, and the New York Times largely stated otherwise in 2021. Politico reported that Biden made Harris the “point person on immigration issues” amid the border surge; NBC reported, “Biden tasks Harris with ‘stemming the migration’ on southern border”; and the Associated Press stated, “Biden taps VP Harris to lead response to border challenges.”

The Harris campaign’s focus on pushing back on the “border czar” moniker is a red herring. Biden never called Harris his “border czar,” but he did give her substantial responsibilities to reduce the flow of migrants. Biden described her border role as follows: “to lead our efforts with Mexico and the Northern Triangle and the countries that . . . are going to need help in stemming the movement of so many folks, stemming the migration to our southern border. . . . [She has] agreed to lead our diplomatic effort and work with those nations to accept . . . the returnees, and enhance migration enforcement at their borders.”

In July 2021, four months after she was tasked by Biden to deal with border issues, she produced a brief report on the root causes of migration and what the United States would be doing in response. The report cited corruption as the chief factor behind migration, followed by violence, trafficking, and poverty. The report contains no data, statistics, or references to support its conclusions. There appear to be no additional studies by Harris since the 2021 report. A one-page update produced earlier this year reports that the US spent over $4 billion in Central America to reduce migration.

Harris’s 2021 border report may have reached a different conclusion if it had analyzed survey evidence from those who have migrated to the US. Surveys show the dominant reason for coming to the US is economic opportunity. Reasons for migration that are popular within the Democratic Party to cite, such as sexual violence, gender issues, and climate change, are rarely, if ever, mentioned in surveys. This is not to say these factors play no role. Rather, there is little firm evidence to support the quantitative importance of these factors, while there is considerable evidence to support the importance of US economic opportunity as a motive for migration.

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Moreover, both Harris and Biden supported policies that incentivized migration. Harris supported decriminalizing illegal entry to the US during her brief 2020 presidential campaign and supported offering healthcare to those who entered illegally. Biden encouraged asylum seekers to “surge the border” in his 2020 campaign.

Border encounters have dropped recently, reflecting a substantial increase in border enforcement in Mexico following visits late last year by Biden and Secretary of State Anthony Blinken.

It appears that Harris was not involved in any of these meetings with Mexican officials, even though Biden indicated in his 2021 press conference that she would be leading such diplomatic efforts, particularly with Mexico. It is unfortunate for Harris that Biden chose to exclude her from these negotiations. She is now left only with the strategy of trying to distance herself from the responsibilities she was given in 2021, which now seem to have been taken away.

So far, she is finding a sympathetic press to support her distancing strategy, though voters remain unconvinced so far. Her approval rating as of last weekend was 38.5 percent, and it has hovered around 40 percent or below since January 2022.

(...)
The key for both Harris and Trump will be to attract voters who remain undecided or who currently support third-party candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Taken together, these two groups represent about 16-18 points. Both candidates face challenges in engaging these groups, though for different reasons. Trump needs to convince those voters he will legitimately govern for all, without malice, as he indicated in the opening moments of his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention. Harris needs to demonstrate concrete achievements at the national level and a level of leadership and competence commensurate with being president, which her approval surveys suggest she lacks among some voters.

The Harris campaign’s “deny the border” strategy may backfire among these two groups. For these skeptical voters, accepting responsibility for the border outcomes, while framing a different policy vision for the future, may be much more effective than claiming she was only tangentially involved. Sometimes, subterfuge can be effective. But in this case, subterfuge will send a message to voters outside of her base that she is a politician who will neither accept accountability for the results that occurred under her watch nor treat them with the openness that they seek in a candidate.

https://www.hoover.org/research/kamala- ... nd-results

[Votanic]

Give them all the chair, i say!

It happened in 2017: https://stillrealtous.com/watch-mark-he ... eel-chair/
But how did the guy, and I quote, "father a rubber hand"???

[jusplay4fun]

As the majority of American voters knew in 2020, Biden and his Administration LIED to US and the world about the US-Mexican border. How many other lies did Biden say? How about "I will not pardon my son, Hunter."

And LIES by other Democrats? "Biden is fit and mentally sharp."

Are there MORE?

I'm the Mayor of Yuma, Arizona. Trump Is Already Transforming Our Border

Being the Mayor of a city can be difficult. Actually, being Mayor is difficult. Being the Mayor of a border city when officials in Washington D.C. don't recognize the glaring border security failure is extremely difficult.

That is the position I have been in for the last four years. I became Mayor of Yuma in 2014. Yuma is located at the intersection of the Arizona, California and Mexico borders. International realities are a part of life in Yuma.

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In a few weeks, the Remain in Mexico policy was implemented, and in a couple of months the numbers were back to pre-surge levels. Relevant federal action addressed the federal issue that was impacting Yuma.

The Biden Administration did not have this impact. Once again, Yuma was on the front line of federal issues. The effective provisions securing the border were removed on the first day of the new Biden Administration.

Within months, I proclaimed another local State of Emergency. I again had discussions with the Intergovernmental Affairs Department, but this time no access to communication with the POTUS.

I had meetings with DHS officials including Secretary Mayorkas, yet no change in policies. I was simply told that the border was secure.

We had a peak of 1,500 migrants crossing the border illegally in one day, and there was still no effective federal response. Three and a half years into the Biden Administration, there was finally a new policy shift that had some minor impact—too little, too late.

Since President Trump was inaugurated to his second term, the volume of illegal migrants crossing the border is nearing the lows during his first presidency. The difference is action.

[jusplay4fun]

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[jimboston]

Question: In a conversation where JP debates himself… who is the loser?

(Answer: Anyone who tries to read his posts. They are just about as incomprehensible as Confed’s)

[KoolBak]

[jusplay4fun]

Question: In a conversation where JP debates himself… who is the loser?[/b]

That is obvious, JimB. YOU ARE, as you usually are.

That is because you fail to understand what a debate IS, JimB. There are TWO SIDES in any debate. On this entire page, there is ONLY one viewpoint presented: that is Against Illegal Immigration, as supported AND allowed by Biden, Kamala, and WHOEVER made decisions about such in the White House.